Police Officers unloads bullets right into the K-9 Dog

[mugs]

Originally posted by: sygyzy

Originally posted by: Twista
The thing is so many of them was shooting they'll never know who shot the dog. We know it was one of the police

Yeah we'll never know. I mean this is 2006, not 2506. The forensics science is simply not there. Heck, do they even have a CSI department? Maybe in the future, they'll have things like fingerprinting, video testimony, witnesses, ballistics testing, etc. But what do I know? I am just making these words up!

Honestly, do you really think they care WHICH officer who fired hit the guy? They're not going to go to the effort of figuring that out. It's immaterial. That is if multiple officers fired, my first impression was that it was an automatic weapon. You can hear after the gunfire one of the cops yells "damnit Paul!" or something like that.

 

[Praxis1452]

I think Paul was the dog's name.

The video isn't synced up.

Guys says he's going to shoot if the dog comes. AS the dog comes he drops the gun. Everyone thinks he is going to shoot and fire back. One guy either misses or was aiming for the guys legs instead of the the chest and hit the dog. :'(

 

[Poulsonator]

Originally posted by: yllus
Well - I have nothing against dogs, cats or other domesticated pets, and I don't want to derail this thread down that path - but I am feel obligated to say that the idea of equating the death of a police dog to a police officer is really, really dumb.

There are two types of life on this Earth: Human and other. Human life is sacrosanct. The other we routinely kill, torture and maim according to how cute they are and how good they taste. I refuse the thought of taking that level of arbitrary decisionmaking and turning it into law.

Hah! It's this level of thinking that's going to kill us all someday soon I'm afraid. Sacrosanct my ass.

 

[Injury]

Originally posted by: yllus
Well - I have nothing against dogs, cats or other domesticated pets, and I don't want to derail this thread down that path - but I am feel obligated to say that the idea of equating the death of a police dog to a police officer is really, really dumb.

There are two types of life on this Earth: Human and other. Human life is sacrosanct. The other we routinely kill, torture and maim according to how cute they are and how good they taste. I refuse the thought of taking that level of arbitrary decisionmaking and turning it into law.

I see your point, but it's not about them being on the level of humans, it's that the fact that years of training a dog and the fact that it takes months... even a year of bonding with a dog for the handler and dog to work as a team.

It's kinda like... if someone were to hurt my dog, I'd kick their face in. They are my companion... not just a random pile of flesh and fur that I keep around to keep my feet warm at night. The dog grows to cherish you and you grow to cherish the dog.

It's a big step above "destroying city/police property", but at the same time a big step below "harming/killing an officer of the law".

 

[Jahee]

why did they even fire at the man in the first place, he didnt make any sudden movements or anything i dont understand...

 

[Tiamat]

criminal did what was asked. dog did what was asked. cops kill 'em both. wtf?

 

[mugs]

Originally posted by: Injury

Originally posted by: yllus
Well - I have nothing against dogs, cats or other domesticated pets, and I don't want to derail this thread down that path - but I am feel obligated to say that the idea of equating the death of a police dog to a police officer is really, really dumb.

There are two types of life on this Earth: Human and other. Human life is sacrosanct. The other we routinely kill, torture and maim according to how cute they are and how good they taste. I refuse the thought of taking that level of arbitrary decisionmaking and turning it into law.

I see your point, but it's not about them being on the level of humans, it's that the fact that years of training a dog and the fact that it takes months... even a year of bonding with a dog for the handler and dog to work as a team.

It's kinda like... if someone were to hurt my dog, I'd kick their face in. They are my companion... not just a random pile of flesh and fur that I keep around to keep my feet warm at night. The dog grows to cherish you and you grow to cherish the dog.

It's a big step above "destroying city/police property", but at the same time a big step below "harming/killing an officer of the law".

The penalty is realtively high - 5 years. I doubt killing any other dog will get you 5 years in prison. But killing a police officer could get you the death penalty in some states, so saying the punishment for killing a police dog should be the same as for killing a police officer is just crazy talk.

 

[waggy]

Originally posted by: Jahee
why did they even fire at the man in the first place, he didnt make any sudden movements or anything i dont understand...

that is what i was trying to understand. WTF did they even start fireing.

 

[ahurtt]

God that was tragic and heart-breaking to watch. But from the look of it, it was definitely a horrible accident due to timing of a sequence of events. What I saw:

Bullets start flying, dog runs into already raining hail of bullets.
The same time the first guy started shooting must have been at almost the same instant the K-9 officer released the dog. Everybody was probably looking intently at the intended target (the man with the gun) and probably nobody noticed the dog running into the field of fire until it was too late. The lead was already flying.

 

[DeadByDawn]

Originally posted by: Praxis1452
I think Paul was the dog's name.

(

Anybody here ever know a dog named Paul?

 

[Conky]

I love dogs more than the average person but I think using them for police work is cruel to the dog and extremely archaic to boot.

They mostly teach the dogs to be vicious and bite with no command for "stop"(not one that works anyway, dog owners know what I mean) they simply pull the dog off the perp after he is being mauled.

If the dog wasn't there this situation probably would've ended with another guy in jail. Just plain stupid on so many levels.

 

[Dacalo]

Originally posted by: crystal
WTF, did I saw that right.

Cops ask guy to drop the gun -> start shooting -> guy throw gun -> dog ran up -> both went down.

No you didn't, watch it again.

Cops ask guy to drop the gun -> guy throw gun -> dog ran up/start shooting -> both went down

 

[Gooberlx2]

Originally posted by: waggy

Originally posted by: Twista
The guy threw the gun before the dog was shot it looks like. Shame.

well a whole bunch of cops need more/better training. there is no excuse for that happening.

Seriously, the dude didn't make any sudden movement. To have released the dog (and especially if they just dropped the leash) as well as taken the shots prematurely (from what I could see) is totally inexcusable.

 

[ryan256]

Originally posted by: Twista
The thing is so many of them was shooting they'll never know who shot the dog. We know it was one of the police

Ballistics match. They can easily find out who shot the dog.

 

[Gooberlx2]

Originally posted by: fbrdphreak

Originally posted by: MX2times
Okay, found this. Thought I heard or read somewhere that the penalty was the same as killing an officer. Guess I was mistaken.

Injuring or killing a police dog is a 3rd degree felony punishable by imprisonment of up to 5 years.

That's bullsh!t :disgust:

The hell it is. IMO that should be the punishment for any animal cruelty resulting in death, and even steeper in the case of police dogs or other service dogs. Obviously, human murders should be even steeper.

 

[mrSHEiK124]

WTF, were those automatic weapons?

 

[Gooberlx2]

Originally posted by: mrSHEiK124
WTF, were those automatic weapons?

Yeah, probably SWAT?

 

[jpeyton]

More police incompetence? What a huge surprise :roll:

 

[mugs]

Originally posted by: Beachboy

They mostly teach the dogs to be vicious and bite with no command for "stop"(not one that works anyway, dog owners know what I mean) they simply pull the dog off the perp after he is being mauled.

That's not true. I've seen video of a trained police dog. The dog would run at the criminal and as soon as the criminal surrendered the dog would yield. Often the dog doesn't even have to attack, just the sight of a big dog running at you is enough to subdue some criminals.

 

[waggy]

Originally posted by: mugs

Originally posted by: Beachboy

They mostly teach the dogs to be vicious and bite with no command for "stop"(not one that works anyway, dog owners know what I mean) they simply pull the dog off the perp after he is being mauled.

That's not true. I've seen video of a trained police dog. The dog would run at the criminal and as soon as the criminal surrendered the dog would yield. Often the dog doesn't even have to attack, just the site of a big dog running at you is enough to subdue some criminals.

yeap seen that on cops a few times.

usually its the dog attacks the cop comes up and yells something to the dog. the dog lets go and they kick the guy a few times.


this was a cluster fvck. every one of those cops need a re-training sesson.

 

[Number1]

This video is just sickenning. People and animal geting shot. You wouls normaly find this kind of stuff on ogrish.

Truly sickening.

BAN.

 

[Gooberlx2]

Originally posted by: mugs

Originally posted by: Beachboy

They mostly teach the dogs to be vicious and bite with no command for "stop"(not one that works anyway, dog owners know what I mean) they simply pull the dog off the perp after he is being mauled.

That's not true. I've seen video of a trained police dog. The dog would run at the criminal and as soon as the criminal surrendered the dog would yield. Often the dog doesn't even have to attack, just the site of a big dog running at you is enough to subdue some criminals.

QFT. I don't see where he getting his info that there's no effective command for "stop". As a previous dog owner and someone who's trained animals (including German Shepards)...no I do not know what you mean. Perhaps you should spend more time training your dog(s) if you're an owner.

There was a great show on Discovery, K-9 Bootcamp. Give it a watch and educate yourself.

 

[zoiks]

Open deer season. Yaaayhaa.

 

[mugs]

Originally posted by: Gooberlx2

Originally posted by: waggy

Originally posted by: Twista
The guy threw the gun before the dog was shot it looks like. Shame.

well a whole bunch of cops need more/better training. there is no excuse for that happening.

Seriously, the dude didn't make any sudden movement. To have released the dog (and especially if they just dropped the leash) as well as taken the shots prematurely (from what I could see) is totally inexcusable.

Perhaps the audio sync issues are confusing you, but the shooting starts immediately after the guy made a sudden movement with the gun toward the police. We can see now that he made that movement to throw the gun on the ground (apparantly because the dog was coming at him), but the police didn't have much time to decide whether to shoot or possibly be shot.

 

[yhelothar]

I'm pretty convinced that the sound is off sync. Looks like the cops released the dog onto the guy. Which then the guy threw the gun.. and the cops had a knee jerk reaction seeing his hand come out with the gun and shot him, not knowing that he was taking the gun out to toss rather than shoot.
Conclusion: Police are incompetent.