Police murder 80-year old man in bed, try to alter evidence

[ch33zw1z]

They recovered kilo's of meth right? All good.

 

[Jaskalas]

They recovered kilo's of meth right? All good.

Not exactly: "The raid turned up no evidence of methamphetamine on the property."

 

[MagickMan]

His family is going to be receiving a serious upgrade in their financial status, soon, though the cops will only get a slap on the wrist.

 

[Vic]

*pssst* The gun wielder is responsible for his actions. If you're not competent enough to identify if someone is a cop with a search warrant, you're not competent enough to be pointing a gun at anyone.

WTF.. As a law abiding citizen, if I hear someone breaking into my house in the middle of the night, the last thing I'm going to expect are cops with a search warrant.

 

[ch33zw1z]

Not exactly: "The raid turned up no evidence of methamphetamine on the property."

Aw shucks, oh well....War of Drugs is worth it.

 

[Thebobo]

Aw shucks, oh well....War of Drugs is worth it.

So you upset his death could not be put down to drugs, to excuse the police officers of wrongdoing? And yea the war on drugs is not working an innocent man was kiled because of it jeez.

 

[ch33zw1z]

So you upset his death could not be put down to drugs, to excuse the police officers of wrongdoing? And yea the war on drugs is not working an innocent man was kiled because of it jeez.

but its for the children! think of the children!!

Guilty til proven innocent, that's the War on Drugs for ya.

 

[Brovane]

WTF.. As a law abiding citizen, if I hear someone breaking into my house in the middle of the night, the last thing I'm going to expect are cops with a search warrant.

Well the way the things work in the USA, you are expected to know that they are the cops even if they do a no knock warrant and don't announce themselves. Of course things could be a little difficult to hear if they also through a flash stun in the house before they enter. However that is tough for you. If you even attempt to get a gun into your hands you can expect to be shot multiple times. If you don't die instantly they will handcuff you and leave you to bleed out before the make a half-hear ted attempt to get the paramedic on-scene. Even if you don't get a gun into your hands and they still may shoot you and it will be justified if a gun is found anywhere in your house. Basically everything is stacked against you that you have to show the up most restraint. However the cops are basically allowed to do whatever they please.

 

[WelshBloke]

I'd be tempted to fix a fake claymore above the door. At least you'd get some warning when they had to call the bomb squad in.

 

[davmat787]

If they can prove the gun was never in the hand of the 80 year old man, that family just won the lottery

A taxpayer funded lottery at that. When police officers routinely go on paid leave during investigations while city lawyers work out the details of the taxpayer funded payoff, what penalty exists to stop this madness?

I've said it before, there needs to be an FBI division or DOJ department setup to investigate and potentially prosecute officers who break the law on grounds of civil rights violations. Clearly internal affairs is not enough with the Blue Line in effect.

 

[Exterous]

I'd be tempted to fix a fake claymore above the door. At least you'd get some warning when they had to call the bomb squad in.

Nah - then you'd just get woken up as they bust through your door\wall their shiny new MRAP vehicle and drive it over your face.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/jan/23/pentagon-giving-away-13k-mraps-free-allies-local-l/

Coming soon to a police station or university near you!

Ohio State University’s campus police department reportedly acquired one of the mine-resistant vehicles as well.

 

[ch33zw1z]

Nah - then you'd just get woken up as they bust through your door\wall their shiny new MRAP vehicle and drive it over your face.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/jan/23/pentagon-giving-away-13k-mraps-free-allies-local-l/

Coming soon to a police station or university near you!

Great! Those Frat keggers get WAY out of hand sometimes.

 

[Darwin333]

Ah, so people come out of two separate trailers because they hear the cops announce themselves, but it's a "no-knock."

Maybe the cops just forgot where they shot the guy at? I figure thats a rather easy detail to forget, stumbling in the hallway or laying in bed, not that big of a difference at all.

And he probably just set the gun back down on the bedside table after he pointed it at the cops instead of shooting back at the people that were shooting at him, as most sensible people would do.

I would also like to point out that its a damn good thing the cops had sub machine guns, the guy had a .22!!

 

[Darwin333]

This is one of the fundamental problems with no-knock warrants. They unnecessarily increase the chances of innocent residents or police officers getting shot. Further they generally shift the risk of executing a warrant from the police to the resident, i.e. the cops have less of a risk of getting shot if there really are bad guys in the residence, but an innocent resident has an increased chance of getting shot when the cops get it wrong.

Even if they didn't increase the net risk of executing warrants, I still find the policy unacceptable in part because of the risk shifting. The police need to accept the risks inherent in their job or find another line of work.

Except for something like a hostage situation they could just wait in an unmarked vehicle for the guy to come out and arrest him with very minimal risk to ANYONE. Except for very rare situations no-knock raids are completely unnecessary and a public danger.

 

[Kadarin]

Except for something like a hostage situation they could just wait in an unmarked vehicle for the guy to come out and arrest him with very minimal risk to ANYONE. Except for very rare situations no-knock raids are completely unnecessary and a public danger.

However, that's not what cops want to do. They want to dress up and get all tactical and shit, shoot dogs and whatnot.

 

[Darwin333]

"Drop the gun," in response to a sleeping man with no gun. Mhmmmmm.

After he shot the guy 6 times..... Could very easily be argued that he was covering his ass for a bad shoot. Besides, why the hell would you tell him to drop the gun after you pumped him full of lead?