Police lose control of Mosul amid uprising

[Ozoned]

Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken



primarily Sunni controlled areas.

Hmmm, I wonder what would happen if the insurgents are herded into these areas?

 

[conjur]

It's a big Mess O'Petamia

 

[Klixxer]

Originally posted by: Ozoned

Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken



primarily Sunni controlled areas.

Hmmm, I wonder what would happen if the insurgents are herded into these areas?

Umm, they would be welcomed? :roll:

 

[Engineer]

Army unit diverted from Fallujah to Mosul.

 

[Tylanner]

If these Iraqi "rebels" truly cared about their country they would have taken the peaceful route Allawi offered, and they could try to win in the election. Of course they wouldn't win, because they are whats left of Saddams cliq.

And just them being dressed as civilians makes them terrorists IMHO, if they had their own garb, not nearly as many civilians would be targeted. But they dont care about that do they..

 

[crooked22]

I think this war was brought on with little thought on how to handle the situation really, it was supposed to be easy, like afghanistan with a big lead in battle and then almost calm, well, two things went wrong there.

1. the people in Afghanistan were a whole lot more opressed, Iraq was damn near secular and most people went on with their lives without involvment from SH or his corrupt "government" while the Taliban ruled Afghanistan and opressed and dictated every little thing, people were tired of it.

2. There are still battles being fought here in Afghanistan, it has gotten worse and if nothing is done it will continue to get worse while in Iraq the efforts are broader but not nearly enough.

The truth is, if Iraq is not going to be a lost cause, you cannot care about 10-20000 dead US soldiers and up to a million dead Iraqi civilians.

These are the deaths that comes with war, there is no such thing as a "nice" or "good" war which is why you should NEVER enter into one unless it is absolutely necessary.

But don't worry, we secured our... errr the oilfieds right when we get there... And they remain rather secured. So it cant be THAT bad, eh?

So if the army, marines, whatever turns around and the rebels "dissapear" AGAIN, what next city will be razed?

 

[Red Dawn]

Lets just use the dedicated Iraqi National Guard to combat them. Surely there must be some Iraqis asdedicated to our cause as there are those who are dedicated to fighting us. At least the Iraqi National Guerd will be trained and equipped with the best weapons unlike the insurgents.

 

[GrGr]

Originally posted by: Tylanner
If these Iraqi "rebels" truly cared about their country they would have taken the peaceful route Allawi offered, and they could try to win in the election. Of course they wouldn't win, because they are whats left of Saddams cliq.

And just them being dressed as civilians makes them terrorists IMHO, if they had their own garb, not nearly as many civilians would be targeted. But they dont care about that do they..

Fallujah resisted Saddam just as they are resisting the US.

And Mosul will be the next city to be levelled after the US is finished with Falluja.

"Arabs against Kurds

But the omens of an impending civil war in Iraq get more dreadful by the hour. The latest proof is the daredevil, coordinated storming by groups of black-masked mujahideen of six police stations in Mosul, in northern Iraq, where they captured loads of weapons, ammunition and flak jackets and then went on a mortar-firing rampage against Iraqi National Guard and US troops positioned on four of five of Mosul's bridges over the Tigris. They ended up capturing the bridges - and truckloads of guerrillas are still roaming around Mosul. Residents say they have not seen such chaos since the US invasion in March 2003.

The US response was predictable: air strikes over parts of Mosul. And an army of snipers "shooting anything that moves", according to an Iraqi journalist quoted by the Associated Press. As expected, Mosul is the new Fallujah: as early as Monday, the day when Operation Phantom Fury was launched on Fallujah, Iraq's current defense minister, Hazim Shaalan, explicitly said that Mosul would be next. Shaalan tried to sell the usual Pentagon spin - blaming "groupings that came from neighboring western countries trying to step up terror operations there". He meant Syria. Wrong: streets on fire in Mosul are part of the coordinated Iraqi resistance strategy of widespread counterattacking.

etc. link

 

[EagleKeeper]

Originally posted by: dmcowen674

Originally posted by: CycloWizard

Originally posted by: JacobJ
W for president!

oh...wait...

Yes, they would all magically put down their guns if Kerry were elected.

Sadly we'll never know

Anyone that would thihnk that has less sense that most of the trolls here.

 

[Infohawk]

Originally posted by: Passions

Originally posted by: Infohawk
GWB will raze Mosul too! That will show them and make them think twice about 9/11 again! :|

Actually I agree. After Falluja, we'll get Mosul too if they act up.

BTW: Why bring 9/11 into this? This is about the new Iraq, and the terrorists who oppose it. :thumbsdown:

Because it's a parody of the dimwitted warmongers that think 9/11 is linked with Iraq in ANY way... LOL

 

[feralkid]

Originally posted by: CycloWizard

Originally posted by: JacobJ
W for president!

oh...wait...

Yes, they would all magically put down their guns if Kerry were elected.

Sorry, you wouldn't have been able to blame Kerry untill January.



:roll:

 

[BBond]

I sincerely hope that those 'people' here who would drop MAOBs on Iraqi cities someday experience the unique sensation of having one dropped on them.

Bush invaded Iraq because of...what??? WMD??? The threat Iraq posed??? Links to 9/11 and Al Qaida???

NONE OF THE ABOVE.

This entire mis-adventure has been brought to you by the lies and greed of the Bush administration. Now people here are actually suggesting we raze the entire nation to get them in line.

Sick, sick, sick.

I can't believe there are Americans who support destroying a nation and killing innocent civilians based on Bush's lies. Women and children are being killed in Iraq. Murdered. Iraqis witness the abominations Bush has brought upon them every day, and you wonder why Iraqis are taking up arms against us? What would you do in their place? This is your proof the 'insurgents' are not 'terrorists' or 'dead enders'. They are Iraqis fed up with the lies that led to the invasion of their nation and the arrogance of America's leaders and their followers since. Lies and arrogance that have led to the destruction of Iraqi cities and the death of over 100,000 Iraqi civilians. All in a nation that had NO LINK TO 9/11 OR AL QAIDA, yet most Americans still believe it did because the Bush administration continues to propagate that lie.

Wake up people. Iraq belongs to the Iraqis. America doesn't have the right to invade a nation based on false claims and we certainly don't have the right to kill that nation's people because they refuse to knuckle under our oppression, even if Bush tell you God told him to.

Here is some reading from one of America's leading Middle East scholars that might do some of you a bit of good. But, from reading some of your posts, unfortunately, I seriously doubt it.

Mosul Chaos

 

[conjur]

Looters go on rampage in Mosul
http://www.news.com.au/common/...82904%255E1702,00.html

LOOTERS rampaged through a palace in Iraq's third city of Mosul today that had been used by a foreign company, after the staff left at dawn, an AFP correspondent witnessed.

Cars and trucks crammed with people swarmed to the palace in the north of the city, where they were seen making off with food, equipment, clothes and even a mattress.

The scenes were reminiscent of a frenzy of looting that swept through cities across Iraq following last year's US-led invasion.

People in the smart Millain neighbourhood, seeing cars speeding towards the palace, also rushed over to pick through the contents.

The contractors who used the palace that once belonged to a half-brother of toppled president Saddam Hussein left after it became the target of heavy fire overnight.

Lawlessness simmered in the rest of Mosul, where gunmen held key buildings, such as the provincial governor's office, and patrolled the streets in cars in the absence of Iraqi police or national guardsmen.

The militants instructed residents to go about their lives as normal as they were doing the job of the security forces.

Despite that, few people dared to venture out onto the streets and most shops remained closed in this city of more than 1 million people.

Naah...we don't need more troops over there. This only *appears* to be a giant, fvcked-up shell game.