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Police: Cab Driver Stabbed Repeatedly By Passenger Who Asked "Are You Muslim?"

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Hayabusa Rider said:
What demons drive people to do such terrible things?
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Tends to be people looking for a scapegoat for whatever has happened in their lives that has made them feel like a failure....
 
peonyu said:
Well the media got they're white hate crime commiter now, the last time stabbings happened they were disappointed when it turned out it was a Arab-Christian man committing them. I dont think he was charged with hate crimes though despite targeting only one group of people.
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Something similar I have been wondering about...

Remember when we first attacked Iraq.. and it was getting bad.. so then there were these Islamic Terrorist Groups *so claimed* .. who would decapitate people on video... Why not keep doing it?

^^ I think there is a chance it was some group who had absolutely nothing to do with any side other than our own... to trump up hate for the Iraqis and the Islamic Fundamentalists etc...
 
Hayabusa Rider said:
What demons drive people to do such terrible things?
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the one MB ^ up there reminds us about "hate"

Love doesn't drive one to do that

Darkness cannot drive out darkness only light can do that.
Hate cannot drive out hate only Love can do that...

^^^ people who think that way get murdered
 
dahunan said:
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Originally Posted by Hayabusa Rider

What demons drive people to do such terrible things?

the one MB ^ up there reminds us about "hate"

Love doesn't drive one to do that

Darkness cannot drive out darkness only light can do that.
Hate cannot drive out hate only Love can do that...

^^^ people who think that way get murdered
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We learn what hate is as children when we do something that is quite normal and natural for children to do but which, surprise surprise, turns out to be contemptible in our guardians eyes. In this way, by being put down, we discover what perfect little shits we are. Once what is normal and natural for a child to be is contemptible, we divide into the face of the sweet and the lovely obedient angel, and the angry repressed black arts practitioner. Some folk get this really bad.

What I can say is that alcohol is a way to stay numb to the pain while while lifting the inhibitions. One goes out of one personality and enters the other and one does not remember. Of course not, it was somebody else that had the experience.
 
Hayabusa Rider said:
Some truth to that. I don't think anyone knows much about this guy. He's not off the hook for his actions, but I wonder exactly set him off. He doesn't seem to have a track record of violence, at least that we know of yet.

What demons drive people to do such terrible things?
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Weird stuff happens when you eat genetically engineered NYC hot dogs... I've seen it happen many times... Seen a guy get honked at for crossing a street in Manhattan one time and he took out a knife and wanted cutting the driver up... had a hot dog in his hand... so... I figured...
 
There's some conflicting information here. Him helping Afghan kids, volunteering for an interfaith organization, maybe affiliated with or sympathetic to the Tea Party. The description of the incident and background comments suggest erratic and strange behavior, fueled by an alcohol problem. My guess is that he was in a state of alcohol psychosis at the time, and probably something very off the wall set him off for some reason.

- wolf
 
woolfe9999 said:
There's some conflicting information here. Him helping Afghan kids, volunteering for an interfaith organization, maybe affiliated with or sympathetic to the Tea Party. The description of the incident and background comments suggest erratic and strange behavior, fueled by an alcohol problem. My guess is that he was in a state of alcohol psychosis at the time, and probably something very off the wall set him off for some reason.

- wolf
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I don't disagree and it's too early to tell, but maybe he was ordered by a court / other organization to volunteer as some sort of anger management. (Pure speculation).
 
LunarRay said:
Weird stuff happens when you eat genetically engineered NYC hot dogs... I've seen it happen many times... Seen a guy get honked at for crossing a street in Manhattan one time and he took out a knife and wanted cutting the driver up... had a hot dog in his hand... so... I figured...
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Somebody told him he was worthless for eating a hot dog in the street. This is what comes of just not fucking running them over.
 
Is the controversy over building a mosque near ground zero a grand distraction or a grand opportunity? Or is it, once again, grandiose demagoguery?

It has been said, “Nero fiddled while Rome burned.” Are we not overly preoccupied with this controversy, now being used in various ways by grandstanding politicians? It looks to me like the politicians are “fiddling while the economy burns.”

The debate should have provided the conservative defenders of property rights with a perfect example of how the right to own property also protects the 1st Amendment rights of assembly and religion by supporting the building of the mosque.

Instead, we hear lip service given to the property rights position while demanding that the need to be “sensitive” requires an all-out assault on the building of a mosque, several blocks from “ground zero.”

Just think of what might (not) have happened if the whole issue had been ignored and the national debate stuck with war, peace, and prosperity. There certainly would have been a lot less emotionalism on both sides. The fact that so much attention has been given the mosque debate, raises the question of just why and driven by whom?

In my opinion it has come from the neo-conservatives who demand continual war in the Middle East and Central Asia and are compelled to constantly justify it.

They never miss a chance to use hatred toward Muslims to rally support for the ill conceived preventative wars. A select quote from soldiers from in Afghanistan and Iraq expressing concern over the mosque is pure propaganda and an affront to their bravery and sacrifice.

The claim is that we are in the Middle East to protect our liberties is misleading. To continue this charade, millions of Muslims are indicted and we are obligated to rescue them from their religious and political leaders. And, we’re supposed to believe that abusing our liberties here at home and pursuing unconstitutional wars overseas will solve our problems.

The nineteen suicide bombers didn’t come from Iraq, Afghanistan, Pakistan or Iran. Fifteen came from our ally Saudi Arabia, a country that harbors strong American resentment, yet we invade and occupy Iraq where no al Qaeda existed prior to 9/11.

Many fellow conservatives say they understand the property rights and 1st Amendment issues and don’t want a legal ban on building the mosque. They just want everybody to be “sensitive” and force, through public pressure, cancellation of the mosque construction.

This sentiment seems to confirm that Islam itself is to be made the issue, and radical religious Islamic views were the only reasons for 9/11. If it became known that 9/11 resulted in part from a desire to retaliate against what many Muslims saw as American aggression and occupation, the need to demonize Islam would be difficult if not impossible.

There is no doubt that a small portion of radical, angry Islamists do want to kill us but the question remains, what exactly motivates this hatred?

If Islam is further discredited by making the building of the mosque the issue, then the false justification for our wars in the Middle East will continue to be acceptable.

The justification to ban the mosque is no more rational than banning a soccer field in the same place because all the suicide bombers loved to play soccer.

Conservatives are once again, unfortunately, failing to defend private property rights, a policy we claim to cherish. In addition conservatives missed a chance to challenge the hypocrisy of the left which now claims they defend property rights of Muslims, yet rarely if ever, the property rights of American private businesses.

Defending the controversial use of property should be no more difficult than defending the 1st Amendment principle of defending controversial speech. But many conservatives and liberals do not want to diminish the hatred for Islam–the driving emotion that keeps us in the wars in the Middle East and Central Asia.

It is repeatedly said that 64% of the people, after listening to the political demagogues, don’t want the mosque to be built. What would we do if 75% of the people insist that no more Catholic churches be built in New York City? The point being is that majorities can become oppressors of minority rights as well as individual dictators. Statistics of support is irrelevant when it comes to the purpose of government in a free society—protecting liberty.

The outcry over the building of the mosque, near ground zero, implies that Islam alone was responsible for the 9/11 attacks. According to those who are condemning the building of the mosque, the nineteen suicide terrorists on 9/11 spoke for all Muslims. This is like blaming all Christians for the wars of aggression and occupation because some Christians supported the neo-conservatives’ aggressive wars.

The House Speaker is now treading on a slippery slope by demanding a Congressional investigation to find out just who is funding the mosque—a bold rejection of property rights, 1st Amendment rights, and the Rule of Law—in order to look tough against Islam.

This is all about hate and Islamaphobia.

We now have an epidemic of “sunshine patriots” on both the right and the left who are all for freedom, as long as there’s no controversy and nobody is offended.

Political demagoguery rules when truth and liberty are ignored.
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Every Republican should read that, and some on the Left, too.
 
Lanyap said:
Some people have speculated it was a combination of PTSD from his stay in Afghanistan and being so intoxicated. He mentions something about a checkpoint immediately before he stabbed the cabbie.




Finally, a link to the tea party.
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Well I'm sure we can link more people that voted for Obama to crimes than we can link Tea Party supporters.
 
How many of those black people participating in "Beat Whitey Night" are Obama supporters? I'm going to guess most of them, if not all of them.

Both sides have their share of fucking retarded members. Why do you try to pigeonhole groups? Now, if the Tea Party released a press statement about how great this is THEN I would have a problem with the Tea Party.

This is like saying we should all hate the Boy Scouts because one of its members molested a child.
 
TheRedUnderURBed said:
Charged with a hate crime today, where will the next mentally unstable wingnut hopped up on fearmongering be next? Tune into the nations most trusted news!


http://dnainfo.com/20100825/murray-hill-gramercy/muslim-cab-driver-stabbed-hate-crime
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it seems this thread is worth bumping in light of what we've learned so far about the perp.

He's a wingnut according to our illustrious RUTB. He worked in an organization that helped people in Afghanistan. The only lesson we can take home from this is that people who help others are wingnuts waiting to kill.

There's a lesson here for all of us.
 
Hayabusa Rider said:
it seems this thread is worth bumping in light of what we've learned so far about the perp.

He's a wingnut according to our illustrious RUTB. He worked in an organization that helped people in Afghanistan. The only lesson we can take home from this is that people who help others are wingnuts waiting to kill.

There's a lesson here for all of us.
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He is not listed as an employee and the place says he is not on their books unless he is freelance.

So we got 2 conclusions here

A. He lost it over volunteering and flipped out on the teaparty hate. (why this hate-baiting is so dangerous)
B. He volunteered to be closer to his victims. (a bit far-fetched but people have done far creepier things)
 
http://www.salon.com/news/politics/war_room/2010/08/26/michael_enright_hate_diary

The Daily News also reports that cops found a diary on Enright that was filled with anti-Muslim rantings:

When he was arrested Tuesday in midtown, Enright had a personal diary filled with pages of "pretty strong anti-Muslim comments," a police source said.

The source said Enright's journal equated Muslims with "killers, ungrateful for the help they were being offered, filthy murderers without a conscience."

So. He's a complicated character. Possible alcoholism, possible PTSD.
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Apple Of Sodom said:
How many of those black people participating in "Beat Whitey Night" are Obama supporters? I'm going to guess most of them, if not all of them.
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Funny, all the haters can point at is some middle/high school kids in BFE Iowa as making it ok for someone to be slashed with a knife in a hate crime.

Desperate times for the haters.
 
TheRedUnderURBed said:
Funny, all the haters can point at is some middle/high school kids in BFE Iowa as making it ok for someone to be slashed with a knife in a hate crime.

Desperate times for the haters.
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Please link to the post where someone said it was okay to kill a muslim because of a black-on-white crime in Iowa? That should be good.
 
Then why are they posting it over and over in unrelated threads?

Infohawk, you should be ashamed to play the obfuscation game, you have sunk as low as PJ or cad or something.
The place he volunteered for was a Christian "outreach" by the way.
 
And whoever locked my thread should be looked into, the moderator bias and what you all let members get away with because threads are against their ideology sucks, as does any lame censorship. Thank you whoever unlocked it, you are a asset to AT free speech.



This is NOT the proper venue for politely questioning moderator actions, nor does hurling accusations you cannot reasonably prove help your case.

If you have a question about a moderator decision in the future, post it politely in Moderator Discussions.

Perknose
Forum Director


The case is obvious regardless of your biased opinion Perknose.

As far as my complaints about your bias I shall note this in the future for the correct forum. Thanks.


Erasing the majority of my first mod post, now restored and highlighted in red, earns you significant time off.

As for bias, I was the one who was instrumental in getting this post unlocked in the first place.

I guess you just can't help some people.

Perknose
Forum Director

 
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TheRedUnderURBed said:
And whoever locked my thread should be looked into, the moderator bias and what you all let members get away with because threads are against their ideology sucks, as does any lame censorship. Thank you whoever unlocked it, you are a asset to AT free speech.
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Locking a troll thread isn't moderator bias, steeplebot. Silly commies.
 
Yet you all post in real troll threads daily. If you don't like reality then go post in more Obama rage of the day fluff posted daily.
 
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