Police are launching Tear Gas, shooting Rubber Bullets, using Water Cannons, and Pepper Spray on Protestors!

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Jmman

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Well, what can you expect. The protestors aren't little angels in this matter. I like the quote from this article about protestors spraying chemicals into the face of delegates trying to get to the convention.

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One 80-year-old member of the delegation had to be treated for injuries, and several other delegates had to rinse their eyes and clothing, the station reported.

?These knuckle-heads crossed the line,? Christopher Healy, head of the Connecticut State Republican Party, told FOX News.com. ?We?re for free speech, not free bleach. We respect their right to protest, but do it civilly. Pushing, shoving, spitting, throwing harmful chemicals ? it?s not the American way.?

 

SleepWalkerX

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I do condemn acts like that, but at least those individuals aren't sworn to protect our liberties. The people who do are systematically intimidating us and undermining our right to the first amendment.

I find this quote ironic, "Pushing, shoving, spitting, throwing harmful chemicals ? it?s not the American way" considering we do the exact same to other countries and the police have been doing the same thing to peaceful protestors.

Originally posted by: Modelworks]
That is asking to get shot. Who wears a gas mask and all black clothing to try to make a point peacefully ? You don't bring a gas mask unless you are expecting to cause trouble.

So black shirts and gas masks are designed to hurt people? Last time I checked gas masks can help against tear gas.
 

DangerAardvark

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Originally posted by: Modelworks
Not the way to make your point
Police also received reports that a group of 70 protesters, wearing all black clothing and gas masks blocked the intersection of Kellogg Street and Summit Avenue.

That is asking to get shot. Who wears a gas mask and all black clothing to try to make a point peacefully ? You don't bring a gas mask unless you are expecting to cause trouble.

Yes, just like wearing a mini skirt is just asking to be raped.
 

GoPackGo

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I was in the Twin Cities this weekend and the local news was reporting on the radio that the raids netted people and devices that would have done harm.

 

Capt Caveman

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Sounds like some deserve it for attacking delegates including an 80 year old man. Pussies.

Hope the one that threw a brick thru the bus window gets caught and charged for attempted murder.

Some turn violent in GOP convention protests

Some turn violent in GOP convention protests

By AMY FORLITI, Associated Press Writer 1 hour, 17 minutes ago

ST. PAUL, Minn. - Demonstrations near the Republican National Convention site turned violent Monday, as protesters harassed some delegates, smashed windows, slashed car tires and threw bottles. Police using pepper spray arrested more than 250 people.
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The trouble happened not far from the Xcel Energy Center convention site where the GOP was starting its four-day meeting. And many of those involved in the more violent activities identified themselves to reporters as anarchists. These protesters, some clad in black, were operating on the streets in addition to a peaceful anti-war march, wreaking havoc by damaging property and setting at least one fire. Most of the trouble was in pocket of a neighborhood near downtown, several blocks from where the convention was taking place.

The main anti-war march was peaceful, police said, estimating about 10,000 people participated. Late Monday afternoon, long after the anti-war marchers had dispersed, police requested and got 150 Minnesota National Guard soldiers to help control splinter groups near downtown.

Members of the Connecticut delegation said they were attacked by protesters when they got off their bus near the Xcel Center, KMSP-TV reported. Delegate Rob Simmons told the station that a group of protesters came toward his delegation and tried to rip the credentials off their necks and sprayed them with a toxic substance that burned their eyes and stained their clothes.

One 80-year-old member of the delegation had to be treated for injuries, and several other delegates had to rinse their eyes and clothing, the station reported.


Five people were arrested for lighting a trash bin on fire and pushing it into a police car, St. Paul police spokesman Tom Walsh said.

Of the arrestees, 119 faced possible felony charges, authorities said.

At least four journalists were among those detained, including Associated Press photographer Matt Rourke and Amy Goodman, host of Democracy Now!, a nationally syndicated public radio and TV news program. Goodman was intervening on behalf of two producers for her program, Sharif Abdel Kouddous and Nicole Salazar, when she was arrested, said Mike Burke, another producer.

St. Paul police spokesman Tom Walsh said Rourke was held on a gross misdemeanor riot charge. Goodman was arrested on a misdemeanor charge, Ramsey County sheriff's spokeswoman Holli Drinkwine said. Neither Walsh nor Drinkwine had information on the other two journalists.

The anti-war march was organized by a group called the Coalition to March on the RNC and Stop the War, whose leaders said they hoped for a peaceful, family friendly event. But police were on high alert after months of preparations by a self-described anarchist group called the RNC Welcoming Committee, which wasn't among the organizers of the march.

About 20 people dressed in black tried to block a key intersection. Police quickly broke up the group, then shot two tear gas canisters at them as the fled.

Pictures taken by Associated Press photographers showed officers using pepper spray on people who appeared to be trying to block streets.

Up to 200 people from various groups marched in a noisy "Funk the War" march. Wearing black clothes, bandanas and gas masks, some individuals smashed windows of cars and stores. They tipped over newspaper boxes, pulled a big trash bin into the street, bent the rearview mirrors on a bus and flipped heavy stone garbage bins on the sidewalks.

One member of the group carried a yellow flag with the motto "Don't Tread on Me." The group chanted: "Whose streets? Our streets!"

At one point, people pushed a trash bin filled with trash and threw garbage in the streets and at cars. They also took down orange detour road signs. One of them used a screwdriver to puncture the back tire of a limousine waiting at an intersection and threw a wooden board at the vehicle, denting its side. Another hurled a glass bottle at a charter bus that had stopped at an intersection. The bottle smashed into pieces but didn't appear to damage the bus.

After the official march ended, police spent hours dispersing smaller groups of protesters, employing officers on horses, smoke bombs and pepper spray.

Protesters put eye drops in each other's eyes after police used chemical irritants. Some wore bandanas and masks to protect themselves.

Protesters were seen lying on an interstate exit ramp to block traffic in downtown St. Paul and linking arms to block other roads.

Terry Butts, a former Alabama Supreme Court justice who is a convention delegate, was on a bus taking delegates to the arena when a brick through the window sprayed glass on him and two others. Butts said he wasn't hurt.

"It just left us a little shaken," he said. "It was sort of a frightening moment because it could have been a bomb or a Molotov cocktail."
 

hellokeith

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Breaking windows and committing other vandal acts is a sure-fire way to win people over to your liberal cause.. not.
 

LegendKiller

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I saw plenty of these idiots when I was in school at the UofMN. Fricking morons would break into plant genetics labs and destroy millions in research because they wanted things "natural". Nevermind that natural strans of soybeans, wheat, and corn, were being crossbred for drought/famine/bug resistance w/o direct genetic modification.

There's no room for any view but their own, which, sadly, is just the opposite side of the coin they say they hate.
 

Genx87

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Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: Genx87
So the anarchists were out and were dealt with promptly like they should.

Under your definition of "Anarchists" we would still be bowing to Charles and Camilla

Under your definition we are bowing to Bush Jr.

Disgusting

You have to be an idiot to believe the ~280 people arrested yesterday were anything but trouble. They tipped dumpsters, vandalized private property, and blocked traffic. Not to mention assaulted people.

There is no right under our constitution that protects people's rights to act like that.
 

Modelworks

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Originally posted by: DangerAardvark
Originally posted by: Modelworks
Not the way to make your point
Police also received reports that a group of 70 protesters, wearing all black clothing and gas masks blocked the intersection of Kellogg Street and Summit Avenue.

That is asking to get shot. Who wears a gas mask and all black clothing to try to make a point peacefully ? You don't bring a gas mask unless you are expecting to cause trouble.

Yes, just like wearing a mini skirt is just asking to be raped.

That is totally different.

You don't bring a gas mask unless you plan to do something that you know might cause trouble.
If they had planned to do a peaceful demonstration they wouldn't have needed gas mask.
Would you be okay with it if they had worn body armor too ?

 

Wheezer

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Capt Caveman

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Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: Genx87
So the anarchists were out and were dealt with promptly like they should.

Under your definition of "Anarchists" we would still be bowing to Charles and Camilla

Under your definition we are bowing to Bush Jr.

Disgusting

So, you're cool with attacking innocent people, assaulting an 80-year old man, throwing a brick into a bus full of people?

Seriously, stop making yourself look like more of a loon.
 

DangerAardvark

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Originally posted by: Modelworks
Originally posted by: DangerAardvark
Originally posted by: Modelworks
Not the way to make your point
Police also received reports that a group of 70 protesters, wearing all black clothing and gas masks blocked the intersection of Kellogg Street and Summit Avenue.

That is asking to get shot. Who wears a gas mask and all black clothing to try to make a point peacefully ? You don't bring a gas mask unless you are expecting to cause trouble.

Yes, just like wearing a mini skirt is just asking to be raped.

That is totally different.

You don't bring a gas mask unless you plan to do something that you know might cause trouble.
If they had planned to do a peaceful demonstration they wouldn't have needed gas mask.
Would you be okay with it if they had worn body armor too ?

They could wear full medieval knight-regalia for all I care. Tear gas is pretty indiscriminate. It doesn't magically pick the violent protesters to affect and leave the bystanders alone.
 

Capt Caveman

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Originally posted by: DangerAardvark
Originally posted by: Modelworks
Originally posted by: DangerAardvark
Originally posted by: Modelworks
Not the way to make your point
Police also received reports that a group of 70 protesters, wearing all black clothing and gas masks blocked the intersection of Kellogg Street and Summit Avenue.

That is asking to get shot. Who wears a gas mask and all black clothing to try to make a point peacefully ? You don't bring a gas mask unless you are expecting to cause trouble.

Yes, just like wearing a mini skirt is just asking to be raped.

That is totally different.

You don't bring a gas mask unless you plan to do something that you know might cause trouble.
If they had planned to do a peaceful demonstration they wouldn't have needed gas mask.
Would you be okay with it if they had worn body armor too ?

They could wear full medieval knight-regalia for all I care. Tear gas is pretty indiscriminate. It doesn't magically pick the violent protesters to affect and leave the bystanders alone.

Maybe, they shouldn't be breaking the law and blocking a street intersection.
 

DangerAardvark

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Originally posted by: Capt Caveman
Originally posted by: DangerAardvark
Originally posted by: Modelworks
Originally posted by: DangerAardvark
Originally posted by: Modelworks
Not the way to make your point
Police also received reports that a group of 70 protesters, wearing all black clothing and gas masks blocked the intersection of Kellogg Street and Summit Avenue.

That is asking to get shot. Who wears a gas mask and all black clothing to try to make a point peacefully ? You don't bring a gas mask unless you are expecting to cause trouble.

Yes, just like wearing a mini skirt is just asking to be raped.

That is totally different.

You don't bring a gas mask unless you plan to do something that you know might cause trouble.
If they had planned to do a peaceful demonstration they wouldn't have needed gas mask.
Would you be okay with it if they had worn body armor too ?

They could wear full medieval knight-regalia for all I care. Tear gas is pretty indiscriminate. It doesn't magically pick the violent protesters to affect and leave the bystanders alone.

Maybe, they shouldn't be breaking the law and blocking a street intersection.

I didn't comment on their tactics, just that what they were wearing is irrelevant.
 

Modelworks

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Originally posted by: DangerAardvark
Originally posted by: Capt Caveman
Originally posted by: DangerAardvark
Originally posted by: Modelworks
Originally posted by: DangerAardvark
Originally posted by: Modelworks
Not the way to make your point
Police also received reports that a group of 70 protesters, wearing all black clothing and gas masks blocked the intersection of Kellogg Street and Summit Avenue.

That is asking to get shot. Who wears a gas mask and all black clothing to try to make a point peacefully ? You don't bring a gas mask unless you are expecting to cause trouble.

Yes, just like wearing a mini skirt is just asking to be raped.

That is totally different.

You don't bring a gas mask unless you plan to do something that you know might cause trouble.
If they had planned to do a peaceful demonstration they wouldn't have needed gas mask.
Would you be okay with it if they had worn body armor too ?

They could wear full medieval knight-regalia for all I care. Tear gas is pretty indiscriminate. It doesn't magically pick the violent protesters to affect and leave the bystanders alone.

Maybe, they shouldn't be breaking the law and blocking a street intersection.

I didn't comment on their tactics, just that what they were wearing is irrelevant.

It isn't irrelevant.
They were wearing them while breaking the law. Was that just a fashion statement ?

 

Capt Caveman

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Originally posted by: DangerAardvark
Originally posted by: Capt Caveman
Originally posted by: DangerAardvark
Originally posted by: Modelworks
Originally posted by: DangerAardvark
Originally posted by: Modelworks
Not the way to make your point
Police also received reports that a group of 70 protesters, wearing all black clothing and gas masks blocked the intersection of Kellogg Street and Summit Avenue.

That is asking to get shot. Who wears a gas mask and all black clothing to try to make a point peacefully ? You don't bring a gas mask unless you are expecting to cause trouble.

Yes, just like wearing a mini skirt is just asking to be raped.

That is totally different.

You don't bring a gas mask unless you plan to do something that you know might cause trouble.
If they had planned to do a peaceful demonstration they wouldn't have needed gas mask.
Would you be okay with it if they had worn body armor too ?

They could wear full medieval knight-regalia for all I care. Tear gas is pretty indiscriminate. It doesn't magically pick the violent protesters to affect and leave the bystanders alone.

Maybe, they shouldn't be breaking the law and blocking a street intersection.

I didn't comment on their tactics, just that what they were wearing is irrelevant.

Sure it does, they're wearing gas masks fully knowing that they're going to break the law and that the police might attempt to disperse them with tear gas. No different than handcuffing themselves to one another to make it more difficult for the police to remove them.
 

PokerGuy

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Links to "non-looney-left" sites please ;)

Peacefully protest = fine. Violence, preventing other people from peacefully attending their convention = over the line, subject to arrest, pepper spraying etc etc. Simple really.