Police accountability - perfect example of how rare it is

MrSquished

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Perfect example of police being above the law. Guy gets drunk at a house party, gets pissed at guest taking leftovers home, grabs a shotgun, and fires it at people, nobody gets hurt. Gets arrested....but then nothing happens. Turns out the guy is a cop in town. Unfuckingbelievable. And people wonder why citizens are mad at the police. Guaranteed many many of these situations are replicated across the country. Considering you are a cop who is armed at all times put into tense situations, this guy should be terminated instantly. Police simply operate in a legal gray area which way more often than not puts them above the law.


"It was a fight that started stupidly enough, as fights at boozy bashes tend to do.
The party’s host got mad at a guest packing leftovers into a cooler to take home. The host threw tomatoes at him — and then went and grabbed a shotgun.
“Today is your day!” he shouted at a few guests as they scurried away.

Then he turned the gun in their direction and fired.
No one was injured in the August 2019 incident at Michael Timmins’ home in Sussex

County. State police responded, charging Timmins with terroristic threats and possession of weapons for unlawful purposes, which are both typically felony offenses, records show.
The system seemed to work as it should: Guy breaks the law, guy gets arrested.

But two years later, Timmins’ position suggests just the opposite: that the system failed. Timmins is a police lieutenant in Jersey City Police Department.
The details of his 2019 gun arrest are known only because documents including their details became part of the public record — obtained by the New Jersey Monitor — as exculpatory material prosecutors provided in an unrelated murder case.

Timmins’ department has worked hard to hide the incident, writing recently in a state-mandated disclosure only that Timmins “negligently discharged a firearm while off duty and on his personal property.” That disclosure left out all other details, including that he’d had six to eight beers beforehand, as noted by an earlier departmental report on police discipline that shielded officers’ names.
And despite the criminal charges, Timmins has no public criminal record, because he was placed in pretrial intervention, a diversionary program for first-time offenders that results in no conviction.
Police watchdogs suspect Timmins is just one of countless law enforcement officers statewide whose misbehavior has gone unnoticed — and therefore possibly unchecked — because state law protects the secrecy of police discipline records.

If the public doesn’t know about officers’ wrongdoing, they can’t ensure they’re being held accountable for their actions and the public can’t protect themselves, said C.J. Griffin, a Hackensack public interest attorney who advocates for public records access.

“I live in Jersey City, so it’s insanely alarming to me that there’s a police officer walking the streets with a gun and he’s a person who has the temperament to get in a fight, pull a gun and shoot it,” Griffin said. “He’s in a job that requires him to interact with hostile people, maybe even on a daily basis, and yet he has that short of a fuse.”"
 

pauldun170

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Buh buh buh he is a former marine and a police officer.
Instead of complaining about him being above the law for some silly joke where he fired a shotgun at people, you should be thanking him for his service.
What you really should be looking at is Antifa and those blacks. Those people are the ones who think they are above the law.

Geez,
Buncha pussies act like a shotgun is going to hurt you. Back in my day, part of the initiation was getting shot in the ass with a shotgun.
Now excuse me as I take my next round of Ivermectin

FYI, he was severely punished with 3 months off.
Would be hilarious if it was with pay.

Lt. Michael Timmins was suspended for 90 days, effective as of June 15th, 2020, “for violating JCPD Rules and Regulations for[:] Conduct, Mishandling of a Firearm, Intoxicants Off Duty. Lt. Timmins negligently discharged a firearm while off duty and on his personal property.”
 
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Maxima1

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" Buh buh buh he is a former marine and a police officer. "

Democrats and Republicans do that. Democrats just do it with more govees.

FYI, he was severely punished with 3 months off.
Would be hilarious if it was with pay.

This happens with teachers all the time, not even counting the ones that are simply incompetent where they do nothing about once they passed probationary period (uncommon but it happens -- I had a Visual Basic teacher who knew literally nothing about programming, did no lectures, etc. but didn't matter how many times students complained to admin about it -- they weren't going to get rid of her). In New York, they're sometimes in the reassignment room for up to six years doing nothing, yet get full pay. And the arbitrators commonly protect them even on felonies with "not relevant -- they can still teach... not relevant -- they can still teach...."
 

ch33zw1z

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Wait, teachers fire weapons in anger on a regular basis and keep working?
 

DaaQ

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Let me tell y'all a story. Which is true.

Back in the day when I was divorced and working night shift. I'd goto the bar every night after work. Close the bar, alot of times go to the restaurant nearby for food.

Anyway, alot of the cops from the next city over would go there too. (the bar) Well after closing time there were always parties to go to afterwards.

Well this one particular night, went to this one particular cop's home, kept partying, ect.

It was probably around 3-4am, and the owner of the house wanted to go shoot some (N word here in the plural sense) This was near Detroit FYI.

He had a supercab Ranger so could only fit 3 ppl. Tried to get me to go.

I was like no man I won't do that, (I am not a cop) (and wouldn't even if I was) I was on the same drunk level though.

3 PPL left, I walked my ass to my truck and drove around the block and went to sleep.

Woke up early morning, the ass crack of dawn and drove my ass home..

I have no clue what transpired after they left, with a shotgun at minimum, and never returned to that house. Also didn't ask any questions.

But point is, the men in Blue, are rarely held to account. And it's not the Unions that some people think are protecting them.

Case in point, a cop from Detroit who was friends with this other city, rolled his Ranger in a field while drunk driving, I seen it on its roof. Tow ruck flipped it, and hauled it off. He wasn't phased or upset in the least. Kept on partying and it was like it never happened.
 
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HomerJS

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Time to double the penalties for police tampering with evidence. That should include suppression.