Polaris 10 starting @ $199 for ~$500 worth of GPU power (390x / 980 / Nano)? [WSJ]

[IllogicalGlory]

10:45PM EDT - Millennials want products that match their style

AMD isn't very self-aware if they think they'll be appealing to the "style" of "millennials".

 

[exar333]

DX12 should make multi-gpu configurations much less of a hassle so if they can make it transparent to the end user then going with two (or more) smaller dies on one card makes sense.

Better yields, one chip design populating more market segments (480, 480x2, 490, 490x2 for example). All depends on them getting it working in a way that's consistent and doesn't require the end user to really do much if they want greater adoption.

DX12 puts the responsibility of mGPU support on th dev rather than the driver. I maintain a wait and see attitude to see if this is better, the same or worse than what we have today.

 

[exar333]

AMD isn't very self-aware if they think they'll be appealing to the "style" of "millennials".

Lol, yup!

 

[RussianSensation]

AMD isn't very self-aware if they think they'll be appealing to the "style" of "millennials".

This card looks perfect to build mining rigs with. 6x 150W $199 Polaris 10 cards on a single 1000W PSU, with monthly profit of $300-350 USD. Thank you AMD. I'll take that all day. This guarantees free Vega Tri-Fire or Big Pascal SLI free. Millennials like thinking outside the box too - ie, GPUs are general purpose processing units that can be used for things other than games

For the rest of the world, AnandTech's article already confirms what we have been saying: 84% of all PC gamers buy GPUs between $100-300.

If this isn't a paper launch like the 1080 is, these cards will sell really well for 1080p 60Hz gamers. HardOCP doom and good sure as hell looks idiotic now with claims that AMD failed miserably with next gen cards when it's crystal clear this card series was made for a bottom-to-top (Polaris 10->Vega->Navi) strategy. I guess HardOCP had a really tough time understanding how at all it's possible for AMD to launch low end cards first.

 

[JDG1980]

Lisa Su said available on store shelves June 29. It should be a hard launch.

 

[railven]

Lisa Su said available on store shelves June 29. It should be a hard launch.

Yeah, but if they can't stock enough for every joe and jane, than it's a paper launch. /s

Now to wait to see which happens:
AMD had low stock and it sold out, thus a paper launch
or
AMD had plenty of stock but there is no demand since it hasn't sold out

I should take bets!

 

[DarkKnightDude]

The benchmark though with it at 51% seemed kinda weird. Are they trying to show off better efficiency or something?

 

[2blzd]

Anyone think Polaris prices might effect 1070 pricing?

I wonder if Nvidia built in these month gap paper launches to give them time to react, if needed, to anything disruptive polaris might have done.

 

[exar333]

Anyone think Polaris prices might effect 1070 pricing?

I wonder if Nvidia built in these month gap paper launches to give them time to react, if needed, to anything disruptive polaris might have done.

Anyone else thinking a GP106 announcement may come in "coincidentally" around the end of June?

 

[railven]

Anyone else thinking a GP106 announcement may come in "coincidentally" around the end of June?

NV is probably foaming at the mouth to rain on AMD's parade.


Buh Bye.

-Rvenger

 

[MrTeal]

This card looks perfect to build mining rigs with. 6x 150W $199 Polaris 10 cards on a single 1000W PSU, with monthly profit of $300-350 USD. Thank you AMD. I'll take that all day. This guarantees free Vega Tri-Fire or Big Pascal SLI free. Millennials like thinking outside the box too - ie, GPUs are general purpose processing units that can be used for things other than games

For the rest of the world, AnandTech's article already confirms what we have been saying: 84% of all PC gamers buy GPUs between $100-300.

If this isn't a paper launch like the 1080 is, these cards will sell really well for 1080p 60Hz gamers. HardOCP doom and good sure as hell looks idiotic now with claims that AMD failed miserably with next gen cards when it's crystal clear this card series was made for a bottom-to-top (Polaris 10->Vega->Navi) strategy. I guess HardOCP had a really tough time understanding how at all it's possible for AMD to launch low end cards first.

I have 6x290s, 4x390s, 5x380s, 2x7950s and a 7990, and unless something crazy happens with mining efficiency, I could easily see me replacing all those with P10 cards. I'm honestly shocked that they're launching at the $199 price for the 2304 SP model, even if it is 4GB. They're going to have a very hard time keeping these in stock, I think they probably could have launched a card with performance possibly between a 390 and 390X for $249 and still sold out.

 

[dark zero]

Yeah, but if they can't stock enough for every joe and jane, than it's a paper launch. /s

Now to wait to see which happens:
AMD had low stock and it sold out, thus a paper launch
or
AMD had plenty of stock but there is no demand since it hasn't sold out

I should take bets!

I feel that AMD has stock and demand... That's why nVIDIA didn't released the 1050 card... I feel that nVIDIA will skip this time that tier.

 

[brandonmatic]

For the rest of the world, AnandTech's article already confirms what we have been saying: 84% of all PC gamers buy GPUs between $100-300.

That describes me pretty well: 3850 -> 5770 -> 5850 (ebay) -> 7950 -> 290x. All below $300.

 

[SPBHM]

good price, if it performs like a 390 more or less with decent power usage and lower price that can't be bad (and it adds current stuff like HEVC)...

still it can spoil the GTX 1060 party, not so much the 1070-1080 it seems...
if AMD could run them around the Nvidia clocks it would be a different story, but I guess they just can't get anywhere near if they are releasing a card at 1.08GHz, that's a shame, but in the end if they can deliver better performance per $, that's the important thing for now

so far it sounds like a more positive launch than the 300 (rebrand at a higher price fest) and Fury series

 

[jj109]

Wasn't AMD pretty much bleeding to death selling R9 290 4GB at $220-$250 in early 2015?

How much money can AMD and their partners make selling a ~6B transistor 14nm GPU at $200?

 

[SPBHM]

Wasn't AMD pretty much bleeding to death selling R9 290 4GB at $220-$250 in early 2015?

How much money can AMD and their partners make selling a ~6B transistor 14nm GPU at $200?

it must be a lot cheaper to produce the PCB and components for this card... 256bits, 150W...

 

[monstercameron]

Wasn't AMD pretty much bleeding to death selling R9 290 4GB at $220-$250 in early 2015?

How much money can AMD and their partners make selling a ~6B transistor 14nm GPU at $200?

how much margins do you think are on all these gpus after retail?

 

[OatisCampbell]

On the contrary.

AMD is, at this time, everyone’s friend, even if they [gamers] do not realize it.. They are the only barrier to further Nvidia price increases, even if you might never admit to such. If ever there comes a time when positions are reversed, then Nvidia would become your friend.

At present they are not.

This isn't true. intel basically has a monopoly on CPUs and they keep pumping out cheap parts.

If AMD decides to start making TVs tomorrow, NVIDIA will keep selling you GPUs for $100- $1000

 

[IllogicalGlory]

This isn't true. intel basically has a monopoly on CPUs and they keep pumping out cheap parts.

If AMD decides to start making TVs tomorrow, NVIDIA will keep selling you GPUs for $100- $1000

Broadwell-E increased prices across the board. Selling the top CPU for $1000 was already a huge stretch, just like the Titan, but now it's literally $1700.

 

[Rvenger]

I am locking this because some of you (Not naming who) absolutely LOVE to create new threads on the same topic. It's going to stop because I am done playing games now.

-Rvenger