Poker

[RadioHead84]

Ok i love poker..and at college i play everday..but now i am at home and only get to play once a week.....


anyway..here is my question...

what should blinds be....like ratio wise.
We all put in 5 bucks to play
We each start with 1000 chips
Red=50
blue=20
white=10

How big should the big blind and small blind be?

 

[KLin]

in that type of game, I would start with 10/20 and increase the blinds every 10-15 minutes.

 

[Whisper]

We have the same setup, and usually start with 10/20 for blinds if there are 5 or more people playing. We then bump them up 10 or so (20/40, 30/60, 40/80, etc.) after someone is eliminated. You could go based on a timer as well, but we just find it easier to keep track of people leaving the game.

 

[CrackaLackaZe]

We use 10/20 for 5 dollar buy ins, no increase, no elimination.

 

[Anubis]

whats a blind?

other then something that covers a window

 

[KLin]

Originally posted by: Anubis
whats a blind?

other then something that covers a window

it's a forced bet in poker that moves around the table. There's a small blind and a big blind. The dealer position moves around the table, and the 2 positions to the left of the dealer are the small blind, then the big blind.

 

[FrogDog]

Originally posted by: KLin

Originally posted by: Anubis
whats a blind?

other then something that covers a window

it's a forced bet in poker that moves around the table. There's a small blind and a big blind. The dealer position moves around the table, and the 2 positions to the left of the dealer are the small blind, then the big blind.

Indeed. They are bets you have to make before you have seen any cards, thus the name.

 

[RadioHead84]

Blinds really make the game a lot better...

Yeah we have been using 10/20 too...werid we all did the same thing lol...

I keep feeling tho that its too low. 10/20 is nothing, and everyone will call it. We were also raising the blinds 20/40, 30/40 and so on every 30 mins....

 

[pX]

blinds make the game suck if you're playing for fun while you're drinking, IMHO. Just make everyone ante up and keep it simple for newbs, no button either, gay...
Whenever we play, and some new guy is freakign out about blinds when we're playinf for quarters I jsut wanna smack him.

 

[Aquaman]

we start out with 5/10 then when people get knocked out or very 1 hour (if someone gets knocked out then the one hour is passed on to the next hour) the blinds double.

So we go 5/10
10/20
25/50
50/100
100/200
200/400
400/800

but we max out at that.

Cheers,
Aquaman

 

[Justin218]

we raise blinds every 10 minutes, goes by so slow otherwise.

 

[AccruedExpenditure]

10-20

 

[maziwanka]

Originally posted by: Whisper
We have the same setup, and usually start with 10/20 for blinds if there are 5 or more people playing. We then bump them up 10 or so (20/40, 30/60, 40/80, etc.) after someone is eliminated. You could go based on a timer as well, but we just find it easier to keep track of people leaving the game.

sounds like a good plan...

 

[Electric Amish]

I've never understood how the blind makes the game any better than a plain old ante system. It seems more unfair especially when it comes around to a person who is not doing well. The blind could possibly knock them out of the game...maybe that's the point?

 

[AccruedExpenditure]

Originally posted by: Electric Amish
I've never understood how the blind makes the game any better than a plain old ante system. It seems more unfair especially when it comes around to a person who is not doing well. The blind could possibly knock them out of the game...maybe that's the point?

That is the point.

 

[KingNothing]

Originally posted by: Electric Amish
I've never understood how the blind makes the game any better than a plain old ante system. It seems more unfair especially when it comes around to a person who is not doing well. The blind could possibly knock them out of the game...maybe that's the point?

By your logic the ante system is more unfair because it forces everyone to bet. The blind system only forces two people to bet. It also allows them to bluff more, because if the flop comes and everyone has only called the big blind, nobody knows at that point whether the blinds wanted to be in the pot or not.

By the way, in my opinion, the big blind should be AT MOST 1/30 of your total starting chips if you're going to be increasing the blinds, and 1/20 if you're not.

 

[vood0g]

we start at 10/20 and raise the small blind by 10 everytime someone is eliminated. the large blind is always twice the amount of the small blind.

 

[Electric Amish]

Originally posted by: KingNothing

Originally posted by: Electric Amish
I've never understood how the blind makes the game any better than a plain old ante system. It seems more unfair especially when it comes around to a person who is not doing well. The blind could possibly knock them out of the game...maybe that's the point?

By your logic the ante system is more unfair because it forces everyone to bet. The blind system only forces two people to bet. It also allows them to bluff more, because if the flop comes and everyone has only called the big blind, nobody knows at that point whether the blinds wanted to be in the pot or not.

By the way, in my opinion, the big blind should be AT MOST 1/30 of your total starting chips if you're going to be increasing the blinds, and 1/20 if you're not.

I don't see how it's more fair to only make 2 people bet over making everyone put in the same starting bet (usually 1 white for us).

 

[new2AMD]

Originally posted by: Electric Amish

Originally posted by: KingNothing

Originally posted by: Electric Amish
I've never understood how the blind makes the game any better than a plain old ante system. It seems more unfair especially when it comes around to a person who is not doing well. The blind could possibly knock them out of the game...maybe that's the point?

By your logic the ante system is more unfair because it forces everyone to bet. The blind system only forces two people to bet. It also allows them to bluff more, because if the flop comes and everyone has only called the big blind, nobody knows at that point whether the blinds wanted to be in the pot or not.

By the way, in my opinion, the big blind should be AT MOST 1/30 of your total starting chips if you're going to be increasing the blinds, and 1/20 if you're not.

I don't see how it's more fair to only make 2 people bet over making everyone put in the same starting bet (usually 1 white for us).

Its a rotating forced bet. Makes the players play differently. If you are forced to bet you may play a hand you wouldnt normally. If you have to make a bet on a nominal hand then you have a choice to make. It gives you some free hands without losing money on a 7 - 2 off suit. Its the way its played. It doesnt mean its the way it HAS to be played.

 

[amoeba]

The reason for blinds is because of position. People in early position are at a disadvantage because they have to bet/check/fold first.
If blinds did not exist, people would fold preflop all the time in the blind position.

 

[DBL]

Originally posted by: Electric Amish
I've never understood how the blind makes the game any better than a plain old ante system. It seems more unfair especially when it comes around to a person who is not doing well. The blind could possibly knock them out of the game...maybe that's the point?

When you are short stacked, pick a hand, preferably a good one, and go all in! Blinds do make the game more interesting due to blind stealing and implied odds.

 

[Electric Amish]

Its the way its played. It doesnt mean its the way it HAS to be played.

I understand that. I'm just trying to find the reasoning behind the blinds.

When you're down to 2 people do the blinds just go back and forth?

 

[amoeba]

yes when you go down to 2 people, the blinds go back and forth. (when down to 2 people, blinds
don't really make that much of a difference compared to ante). However with 5+ people, blinds make a big difference
assuming the people playing are not newbs.

A better way to illustrate my point above is with an example.

lets say 5 people are playing.

1 2 3 4 5

Who acts first rotates around. Lets say for this round, player 1 acts first. If player 1 knew what he was doing,
he would have to play very tight because all of the other players play behind him. Also, if he does happen to have something good
to play like kk, ak, aa, and he puts in a bet, it immediately alerts the other players to his strength due to his willingness to play even in such
an early position, thus likely minimizing his gains. In an ante only game, the first to act would almost always fold except when he holds very strong pocket cards
but when he doesn't fold, it alerts others immediately to the strength of his hand.

Thus, this illustrates the importance of position. But in a blind system, player 1 lets say pays the big blind, player 5 pays small blind.
Now, these 2 players are already partially commited or commited to the pot and the other plays have problems differentiating between whether they are
just defending the blinds or really have strong hands.

 

[DBL]

Originally posted by: amoeba
The reason for blinds is because of position. People in early position are at a disadvantage because they have to bet/check/fold first.
If blinds did not exist, people would fold preflop all the time in the blind position.

That is a very good reason. It correlates to implied odds. Why play in poor position, unless your hand is super premium (AA, KK, QQ, AK)? Having the blinds enables someone to call or get in for 1/2 Blind (The small Blind) and hope (but actually having good odds w/o a great hand) to flop big. It adds another dimension to the game, over and above your two starting cards.

 

[new2AMD]

Originally posted by: Electric Amish

Its the way its played. It doesnt mean its the way it HAS to be played.

I understand that. I'm just trying to find the reasoning behind the blinds.

When you're down to 2 people do the blinds just go back and forth?

Yes it does. It helps move the game along also. If you didnt have blinds and there were 2 people, you would be waiting for both guys to have decent hands before a flop and no money would be exchanged for a long time. If you are forced to bet you will play more and keeps it moving.