Poisoned by medication

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The Green Bean

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I rarely ever visit the doctor or take antibiotics. I realized they seldom do any good. It usually takes the same time to heal because most infections are viral. The last time I went to a doctor was almost three years ago because of excruciating jaw pain. I was diagnosed with mumps. The last time I took an antibiotic was even before that.

I'm a healthy 22 year old and I suffered with allergic bronchitis during my adolescent years. Years 13 and 14 were particularly bad. Every November when the weather changed and became dry, my cough would start. It would go on for months. The third year I went to my GP who diagnosed me with allergic bronchitis and gave me a light dose of Ebastine (anti-histamine). I quickly got better.

So every November I started coughing and a couple of doses of Ebastine made me much better. The allergy might have been from dust and pollution. My school at the time was in the most polluted part of the city. As I grew older, the cough stopped coming and I never needed Ebastine again.

Three weeks ago, I developed bronchitis again. It was weird. It's still not November and the weather has not changed. Also, the cough followed a fever and runny nose. After two weeks of severe coughing I went to an ENT specialist. He said this was not the asthamtic kind of bronchitis I used to have. He gave me a list of medication which included a cough syrup, double the Ebastine I used to take and a dangerous and powerful antibiotic - levofloxacin. I'm guessing that the doctor wasn't sure if it was a baterial or viral infection because he diagnosed using only a stethoscope. It was just trial and error to be on the safe side.

I did not object much. The first couple of days were fine. Then I developed diarhea and insomnia. I couldn't sleep for more than four hours a day. I was constantly anxious. The third day was when the really bad adverse reactions started. My knees were stiff and there was mild pain. I knew that the medicine was causing this. But since it was very mild I thoght it would go away.

The doctor had said that if I don't feel better on the third day I should call him. He told me to add betnyzol (a steroid) to the list of medicine I was taking. I took one dose. However, the next day my joint pain got worse. It spread to my arms. I was really anxious and scared especially after reading cases of tendon rupture caused by this medince which rendered some of its victim crippled for life.

I called the doctor and after his initial refusal of the medicine being the cause of this, he said if I had doubts I should discontinue it. I did. However the pain kept on getting worse and it kept on spreading. It wasn't bad during the day but it kept waking me up at night. I would still consider this mild-moderate pain. It wasn't that bad but the feeling and thought of injuring myself further was bad.

My right knee, my left elbow, my right foot, my right wrist and finger hurt most. They continued hurting for 3-4 days. The effected joints include both my wrists, fingers, knees, elbows, shoulder, feet, jaw, and one Achilles tendon. Most of the pain has been mild. I'm much better now and while there is still pain in some of these joints, it has receded. I'm still scared though.

All in all, I feel very lucky to have gotten away with this.

I have learned much from this ordeal. I have learned to value my health and not take anything for granted. From today, I will be watching much more closely at my health habits and hopefully improve them. Second, I vow never to visit a doctor unless I really need to and never take an antibiotic unless the doctor is 100% sure it's a bacterial infection and I need it. I will never take the Fluoroquinolone class of antibiotics because they are dangerous unless I'm dying.

I had posted in another thread that I was going to start GOMAD to gain weight, but now I think I will have to rest my tendons for a couple of weeks. I've read that they take very long to heal.

My bronchitis is much better too. The best eid gift I can get is my health :)
 
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mizzou

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Most illnesses ive read come from anxiety and stress. Unless you are a medical prodessional, self-diagnosing yourself can have a snowball effect. Mind is a powerful thing!
 

The Green Bean

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Most illnesses ive read come from anxiety and stress. Unless you are a medical prodessional, self-diagnosing yourself can have a snowball effect. Mind is a powerful thing!

Obviously I wasn't self-diagnosing. I've suffered from bronchitis before and I knew that this was bronchitis. I did go to the doctor who told me it was except the causes were not allergic. As far as the symptoms for the ADRs are concerned, I wasn't expecting them. They just came and since I had read the leaflet warning, I knew that this was because of the drugs. It was ALL my body joints. Had it been one or two; I probably would not have been so worried.

anxiety, insomnia, joint pain, diarrhea are all listed side-effects of fluoroquinolones. There are much worse ones too.

I wish it was all in my head too.
 

mizzou

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When i was young, i would cough alot and doctors assumed it was because of allergies, for years i took steroidal drugs, claritin when it was prescription only, etc. One day i just decided to force myself to stop coughing and clearimg my throat and it worked. Im sure at some point i had an actual problem, but.my body reactions became habitual without me even recognizing it.

No amount of medication will keep my sinuses from draining into my throat, its just something that happens and its not a big deal worth becoming over medicated for.

Im not saying this is whats going on with you, but t supprts the fact doctors can order over/unnecessary medication in situations where none at all is needed.
 

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There's a common mnemonic in First Aid for Step 1 to remember the classic side effect of an antibiotic such as the one you took: fluoroquinolones hurt the attachments to your bones.

You should also know that treating you empirically with antibiotics was probably a far cheaper and less invasive choice than running you thru the whole diagnostic battery. Some might say that your doc was merciful in taking the chance with the antibiotic rather than sticking this down your trachea and forcing you to pay the bill.
 

Kipper

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I'm going to go out on a limb and say...perhaps it wasn't bronchitis? Cough, runny nose, and fever are pretty nonspecific.

Obviously the decision is ultimately up to you, but I think not visiting a physician unless you absolutely have to is a pretty stupid idea. That's like forgoing a dental exam because you have no pain. I am in better health than the majority of people I know but I still have an annual physical with blood test, see the dentist twice a year, and the optometrist once a year. Why? Because these are part of my "health habits" as you mentioned, along with exercising regularly and eating well.
 

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I'm guessing that the doctor wasn't sure if it was a baterial or viral infection because he diagnosed using only a stethoscope. It was just trial and error to be on the safe side.
The only way to be absolutely sure would be to take a biopsy. I'm guessing that if he forced you to sit through a biopsy and wait a week for test results to come back you wouldn't be very happy about it either.

Most times diagnoses are judgment calls between what is likely and what is possible. Especially with such non-specific symptoms which could be caused by a whole host of problems, acutely pathological or not, it's hard to tell.

anxiety, insomnia, joint pain, diarrhea are all listed side-effects of fluoroquinolones. There are much worse ones too.
Did your doctor tell you about these side effects? Because if he didn't, then you should at the very least complain. If he did and you still took them, you have only yourself to blame.
 

The Green Bean

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Just when I thought I was getting better, I the worst pain yet in my arms woke me up. It was as if I had lifted some super heavy weights last night. It only lasted about 10 mins though and it's gone now. Sucks. My joints keep popping. Rest?

I probably picked up the whole illness while I was on holiday. Maybe scuba diving? Even 20 mins 10m underwater did put a lot of strain on my body and the malaise started two days later.

I do have a blood test every year or so. I do visit the dentist every year too. I just don't like going to the doctor at every sign of pain. The last time I went (where I was diagnosed with mumps) was justified, but this wasn't IMHO. The only thing was that everybody can tell I'm unwell because everyone can hear it. It was also probably irritating the hell out of everyone and they suggested I see a doctor. The only symptoms were a cough with scanty sputum. The runny nose and fever only lasted a week. I felt healthier than I ever did; only the stupid medication. It's been about 10 days; and the pain is still there albeit it's getting less frequent and less severe for the most part.
 
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Kipper

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Just when I thought I was getting better, I the worst pain yet in my arms woke me up. It was as if I had lifted some super heavy weights last night. It only lasted about 10 mins though and it's gone now. Sucks. My joints keep popping. Rest?

I probably picked up the whole illness while I was on holiday. Maybe scuba diving? Even 20 mins 10m underwater did put a lot of strain on my body and the malaise started two days later.

I do have a blood test every year or so. I do visit the dentist every year too. I just don't like going to the doctor at every sign of pain. The last time I went (where I was diagnosed with mumps) was justified, but this wasn't IMHO. The only thing was that everybody can tell I'm unwell because everyone can hear it. It was also probably irritating the hell out of everyone and they suggested I see a doctor. The only symptoms were a cough with scanty sputum. The runny nose and fever only lasted a week. I felt healthier than I ever did; only the stupid medication. It's been about 10 days; and the pain is still there albeit it's getting less frequent and less severe for the most part.

Possible you misattributed the pain to the meds? Seems likely, particularly since the pain is still there and you've stopped taking them (?). Human beings are particularly bad at determining causation since we are programmed to look for patterns in everything - and illness is one of those things where etiology can be very murky, at best.

Hope you feel better soon.
 

Azraele

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Those side effects are also signs of general malaise. Joint pain is common in things like the flu, for example.
 

The Green Bean

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Possible you misattributed the pain to the meds? Seems likely, particularly since the pain is still there and you've stopped taking them (?). Human beings are particularly bad at determining causation since we are programmed to look for patterns in everything - and illness is one of those things where etiology can be very murky, at best.

Hope you feel better soon.

Thanks but after some online reading; these symptoms of joint pain typically last for atleast a few weeks. I took only 4 days worth of the antibiotic but the damage was done. Adverse effects include the possibility of tendon rupture even six months after stopping treatment which I think is pretty ridiculous.
 
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