Pointless posts in every catalyst driver release thread

[madh83]

Does every catalyst driver release thread need to come with half the posts trolling and the responses to that trolling?

I suggest in the future posts against ati should be made in a relevant way to the threads, like:

10.6 raises my card's temperature (I know this isn't the case, just giving an example).

It's specific information about a problem.

If you add to that:

ATI sucks, this is why nvidia is better, everyone should go to nvidia instead.

It's irrelevant to the thread and isn't necessary, but I guess your card overheated and you're pyst off and feeling ranty. This should be allowed.

However, if an entire post is of the latter type and the poster doesn't even own an ati card, then it's trolling. And it needs to stop making every single thread unreadable in the video cards forum!

 

[Mike Gayner]

GPU forums are not somewhere one goes for genuine discussion and support. They have turned into simply nVidia vs ATI fanboyism.

 

[sandorski]

GPU forums are not somewhere one goes for genuine discussion and support. They have turned into simply nVidia vs ATI fanboyism.

Foolish Fools all! Everyone knows Via is where it's at!!

 

[Evadman]

Even Via is way better than ATI. Everyone Knows This.

By the way, how will a mod enforce a rule about only posting on hardware the poster has or has had? Should we keep a database of purchases made by every person on the forum and only allow posts with a scanned copy of the receipt? Is there a better way to verify claims of ownership I am not thinking of?

By the way, I own AMD stock but usually buy nVidia cards. I apparently hate myself.

 

[OCGuy]

Is this serious?

 

[shortylickens]

GPU forums are not somewhere one goes for genuine discussion and support. They have turned into simply nVidia vs ATI fanboyism.

Wrong.
That issue was cleared up when we made the transition to vBulletin and made more moderators. They cleaned up the bullshit and stopped the trolling.

If the OP has a serious issue he needs to use the report post button on every single one until the mods do something about it.
Thats a hardware forum on a tech site. Its for genuine technical discussion and support. Its not for trolling. Thats why we have Off Topic.

 

[tincart]

I agree with the complaint. I have a couple of ATi GPU's and I usually scan the threads that pop up before going to the newest version. It's much harder to sort the wheat from the chaff when a bunch of fanboys are posting the usual misinformation.

 

[Keysplayr]

When we moderate leniently, we here cries of "Where the heck are the moderators and why aren't they doing their "job"!!"

When we moderate more heavily, we here cries of "This moderator has gone way overboard and should be sanctioned.

End result. All can never be made happy.

 

[tincart]

I don't really think that's germane. You're talking about the general style of moderation and reactions to it. What we are complaining about here is the style of moderation that should be applied to one type of thread that comes up once a month. The only cries of "ABUSE!" that may result from keeping a driver thread OT will probably come from the trolls themselves.

I don't check out the nV driver threads since I don't have an nV card right now, but if the problem is the same there, the situation would call for similar action there as well.

 

[WelshBloke]

By the way, how will a mod enforce a rule about only posting on hardware the poster has or has had? Should we keep a database of purchases made by every person on the forum and only allow posts with a scanned copy of the receipt? Is there a better way to verify claims of ownership I am not thinking of?

Yeah but theres an obvious difference between,

'I've installed the newest drivers and I have problem x'

and

'I've been trawling the internet and have found some obscure problems that I'm not suffering with but am going to post them anyway'

If everyone did the second I'm sure you'd soon do something about it so why let a few people get away with it?

 

[Evadman]

theres an obvious difference between,

'I've installed the newest drivers and I have problem x'

and

'I've been trawling the internet and have found some obscure problems that I'm not suffering with but am going to post them anyway'

So mods should sanction posts based on how the person formed their opinion? You are basically saying an opinion can be formed by having a product and having an issue, or by doing research and forming an opinion without having the product. I can dislike Ford without ever having a Ford or working on a Ford because everyone around me dislikes Ford. That doesn't mean I as a poster should be sanctioned because I post something about disliking Ford since I never had or worked on one.

How would a Mod figure out the difference, even if the mods decided to take it into their hands to do what you suggest? Again, the mods would have to figure out who owned a card, or helped a friend who owned the card, or worked on the card.

When we moderate leniently, we here cries of "Where the heck are the moderators and why aren't they doing their "job"!!"

When we moderate more heavily, we here cries of "This moderator has gone way overboard and should be sanctioned.

Also, this times 277,716.

 

[WelshBloke]

So mods should sanction posts based on how the person formed their opinion? You are basically saying an opinion can be formed by having a product and having an issue, or by doing research and forming an opinion without having the product. I can dislike Ford without ever having a Ford or working on a Ford because everyone around me dislikes Ford. That doesn't mean I as a poster should be sanctioned because I post something about disliking Ford since I never had or worked on one.

How would a Mod figure out the difference, even if the mods decided to take it into their hands to do what you suggest? Again, the mods would have to figure out who owned a card, or helped a friend who owned the card, or worked on the card.

Bolded sounds a hell of a lot like trolling to me, especially if you keep interjecting it into a thread about, say, changing the oil on a ford truck.

 

[Evadman]

Bolded sounds a hell of a lot like trolling to me, especially if you keep interjecting it into a thread about, say, changing the oil on a ford truck.

I have 3 friends with old ford diesel, and they said you have to remove the oil pan skid plate which is on with T55 Torx bits to change the oil, and the filter is a PITA to remove if you don't have a relocation kit. That is a wacked out stupid design, and the engineers were not thinking when it was designed. Ford needs to fix that design before I buy a Ford truck because it sucks.

See, I can have an valid opinion (no matter how wrong it may be) without having the product, and it isn't trolling. Even if you think it is.

 

[WelshBloke]

I have 3 friends with old ford diesel, and they said you have to remove the oil pan skid plate which is on with T55 Torx bits to change the oil, and the filter is a PITA to remove if you don't have a relocation kit. That is a wacked out stupid design, and the engineers were not thinking when it was designed. Ford needs to fix that design before I buy a Ford truck because it sucks.

See, I can have an valid opinion (no matter how wrong it may be) without having the product, and it isn't trolling. Even if you think it is.

Yeah but its more like

'Hi im having trouble draining the oil from my ford, any tips on unsticking the oil drain plug?'
'yeah ford sucks get a honda, oh and I read on the internet that fords make you sterile.'

 

[Evadman]

fords make you sterile.

That is an awesome quote. You win!

 

[WelshBloke]

That is an awesome quote. You win!

:$

 

[EagleKeeper]

fords make you sterile.

That may be a good thing - more loving without the worries.

 

[Evadman]

That may be a good thing - more loving without the worries.

Hmm, maybe having too many Evadbaby's running around would be a bad thing. :laugh;