PointClick claims forms? Who got this email?

inquis

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Greetings people, I never used PointClick back when it was big but I did sign up, and just today I got a cryptic email from mailer@pointclick.com.

Now, I'm not a legal expert or anything, but I believe these documents are saying something to the tune that they are going out of business and that to use the form to get your money back from PC. However, the documents are very very ambiguous; I mean, the text of the body of the email message was this:

"Dear ___________,

Read attachments carefully before completing documents."

That's it. Now while I didn't use PC, I know some people on here did extensively and ended up getting ripped a new one. I really don't have any interest in this, but if anyone does and would like to get the forms that I recieved, I will provide upon request.

-inq
 

dtran42

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i also go this e-mail, i will copy and paste the following below...there are 2 attachments...
Attachment 1:

January 4, 2001


NetPartner, Inc. ) NOTICE OF ASSIGNMENT FOR
629 East Quality Drive ) THE BENEFIT OF CREDITORS AND
American Fork, Utah 84003 ) DEADLINE FOR SUBMITTING
) CLAIMS



TO ALL CREDITORS AND EQUITYHOLDERS OF NETPARTNER, INC. ("NETPARTNER" OR "ASSIGNOR"), AND OTHER PARTIES IN INTEREST:

PLEASE TAKE NOTICE that on December 16, 2000, NetPartner, Inc. ("NetPartner" or "Assignor"), as assignor, made a General Assignment for the Benefit of Creditors (the ?Assignment?) to Sherwood Partners, Inc. (?Sherwood? or ?Assignee?), as assignee, pursuant to common law. Under the Assignment, NetPartner transferred ownership of all of its rights in tangible and intangible assets (collectively, the ?Assets?) to Sherwood for liquidation. Sherwood shall liquidate the Assets, wind down NetPartner, and distribute the net liquidation proceeds to creditors of NetPartner who timely submit claims as instructed below.

PLEASE TAKE FURTHER NOTICE that all entities asserting any claim against NetPartner must submit a proof of claim and proper supporting documentation to counsel for Sherwood by no later than June 18, 2001. You must also provide a pre-addressed and stamped return envelope and documentary evidence establishing your claim with your proof of claim form. Further, on the bottom or reverse side of your proof of claim form your signature is to be notarized. No distributions will be made on claims less than $5.00. A proof of claim form is provided with this Notice. Claims shall be presented by mailing them to counsel for the Assignee at the following address:

David S. Kupetz
SULMEYER KUPETZ, BAUMANN & ROTHMANN
A Professional Corporation
300 South Grand Avenue, 14th Floor
Los Angeles, California 90071




PLEASE TAKE FURTHER NOTICE that any claimant who fails to timely submit a Claim in accordance with the instructions set forth above shall be barred from sharing in the distribution of proceeds of the liquidation of the Assets of NetPartner and shall not receive any payment from the Assignee.


Dated:_______________ SULMEYER, KUPETZ, BAUMANN & ROTHMAN
A Professional Corporation


By:_________________________________________
David S. Kupetz
Attorneys for Sherwood Partners, Inc.,
Assignee for the Benefit of Creditors of NetPartner, Inc.


Attachment 2:

Assignment for theBenefit of Creditors ofNetPartner, Inc. PROOF OF CLAIM DATE RECEIVED:
NETPARTNER, INC. Assignor,SHERWOOD PARTNERS, INC. Assignee.
Name of Claimant(The person or entity to whom NetPartner, Inc., owes money or property)SOCIAL SECURITY OR TAX I.D. #: o Check box if you are aware that anyone else has filed a proof of claim relating to your claim. Attach copy of statement giving particulars. CLAIM NO.:
Name and Address Where Notices Should be SentTelephone Number o Check box if the address differs from the address on the envelope sent to you on behalf of the Assignee. THIS SPACE IS FOROFFICIAL USE ONLY
ACCOUNT OR OTHER NUMBER BY WHICH CLAIMANT IDENTIFIES NetPartner, Inc.: o replacesCheck here if this claim a previously filed claim, dated: ______ o amends
1. BASIS FOR CLAIM o Goods sold o Services performed o Money loaned o Equipment leased o Taxes o Other (Describe briefly) 2. IS YOUR CLAIM o Matured (i.e., due and payable) o Unmatured o Disputed o Contingent
3. DATE DEBT WAS INCURRED: 4. IF COURT JUDGMENT, DATE OBTAINED:
5. CLASSIFICATION OF CLAIM. Classify your claim as follows: (1) Unsecured, (2) Secured, or (3) Partially secured and partially unsecured (it is possible for part of a claim to be in one category and part in another): CHECK THE APPROPRIATE BOX OR BOXES that best describe your claim and STATE THE AMOUNT OF THE CLAIM.
o UNSECURED CLAIM $ A claim is unsecured if there is no collateral or lien on property of the debtor securing the claim or to the extent that the value of such property is less than the amount of the claim.o SECURED CLAIM $ Attach evidence of perfection of security interest Brief Description of Collateral:__________________________ ______________________________________________________ Amount of arrearage and other charges included in secured claim above, if any $_____________________________ 6. SUPPORTING DOCUMENTS: Attach copies of supporting documents, such as promissory notes, purchase orders, invoices, itemized statements of running accounts, contracts, court judgments, or evidence of security interests, if the documents are not available, explain. If the documents are voluminous, attach a summary.7. STATEMENT ABOUT THE DEBT. Attach a written detailed explanation of the basis of your claim. Include with your explanation a schedule of calculations showing precisely how you arrive at the total amount of your claim. 8. CREDITS AND SETOFFS: The amount of all payments on this claim has been credited and deducted for the purpose of making this proof of claim, and in filing this claim, claimant has deducted all amounts that claimant owes to debtor.
9. TOTAL AMOUNT OF CLAIM ON DATE $ $ $_____________________________ SIGNED BELOW: (Unsecured) (Secured) (Total)o Check this box if claim includes interest or other charges in addition to the principal amount of the claim. Attach itemized statement of all additional charges.
10. TIME-STAMPED COPY: To receive an acknowledgement of the filing of your claim, enclose a stamped, self-addressed envelope and copy of this proof of claim.11. BY MY SIGNATURE BELOW, I DECLARE UNDER PENALTY OF PERJURY THAT THE INFORMATION PROVIDED HEREIN AND ATTACHED HERETO IS TRUE AND CORRECT. THIS SPACE IS FORNOTARIZATION OF SIGNATURE(or have notarized on reverse side)

Date Sign and print the name and title, if any, of the creditor or other person authorized to file this claim (attach copy of power of attorney, if any)





anyway, i'm too lazy to sort it, it's early, i just woke up, if anyone can figure out what this crap means, reply. late.
 

Insomniac

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it appears you can ask for a share of the money PC gets from liquidation. My question is, what do they consider proof? Screen captures? A good faith estimate? What about people who continued to click after they implemented the point system and promised prizes?
 

inquis

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I really couldn't make out the documents, 'cause I really don't use Windows and wordpad completely destroyed the poor files :p

But can anyone draw any connections between PC and the companies in the notices? Until someone manages to do that, well, we really have no idea if this is legit or not.

-inq
 

inquis

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Insomniac:

11. BY MY SIGNATURE BELOW, I DECLARE UNDER PENALTY OF PERJURY THAT THE INFORMATION PROVIDED HEREIN AND ATTACHED HERETO IS TRUE AND CORRECT.

-inq
 

scheck

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i also got this email today. any lawyers who can decipher this documents mumbo jumbo and translate it into plain english for us dumb ppl to understand :p i had leftover money that was never paid, but i dont want to sign documents of which i have no idea what its talking about.
 

Insomniac

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inquis: I can read that. But, the fact of the matter is, PC knows exactly how much they owe and to who. I never took a screen capture but I do know a ball park figure (between $135-$140, I'm pretty sure it was $137.XX) and could just put the low figure to be safe. But, that is only the amount of cashj they owe me. How about all of those points I accrued to enter the daily, monthly and quarterly prizes? Can I add those in? Who are these lawyers? Do they work for PC or someone else?
 

BA

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I got it, and I've got a screenshot to boot :)

Who knows, I might actually get some of that $94.68?
 

hkyee

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I never got the email though. i have three accounts there, and none of them received the email.
 

tomcat

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yea that was a pretty cryptic email, virus scanned it first, then searched for "NetPartner" with no avail, finally checked the sender to be pointclick.. pretty sure they didnt owe me more than $5 though.
 

sandmanwake

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Just got the email myself. I have know idea how much they might owe me or whatever. And as some of the others have said, a lawyer to english translation of the email would be most useful.
 

Jedibus

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I can't believe I'm not going to receive my $5!!!!!!!!!!! Let's start a class action lawsuit!! Who wants in? ;)
 

ShrikeAK

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This is rather amusing. When a company folds, they generally must send out a notice to potential creditors. I suppose everybody who had some $$$ on account received this (I did.. $7... wooo).

Do remember... they went under because they expended their funding. Try not to hold your breath awaiting this one.
 

geldrop

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This is bullshit, how would i remember how much they owe total of about 70 dollars. I have no proof :( WHat the hell do i do.
 

MisterEd

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Don't even waste your time being concerned over it. The first people to get any piece of a bankruptcy are the banks. Then they pay like 3c on the dollar from the highest creditors down. We'll be lucky to see 10 cents (total). The letter is a legal requirement of the court. It must be sent to EVERYONE who might have a claim.

We (the company I work for) was owed over $187,000 from a major dot.com that went bankrupt. We ultimately received about $1100 (eleven HUNDRED $$) as our settlement. Didn't even cover the lawyer letters.

I wouldn't get to exited over it. Your chanced of seeing anything are close to zero.



 

TheBigZ

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That's probably pretty much the case. My guess is they set the $5 threshold because they figure there's probably only one penny for every $5 owed after the assets are liquidated. And it is also likely true that there are "secured" creditors in place ahead of all of us, so the chances of anyone who is owed less than $500 seeing much over $1 for their paperwork, is highly unlikley.

The unfortunate thing is that the people in charge will probably never be charged with intentional fraud. They intentionally misled members right up to the last minute, telling them that they could get rebates on purchases as well as chances in drawings for various prizes. When obviously all they were really doing was drumming up as much last minute cashflow from advertisers and referral sales. You can pretty much lay odds that management wasn't owed much money when it was all over... just lower echelon employees, creditors and us.
 

theSpartan

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I got the email also, and they paid me my money. As far as I know they owe me nothing, but why would I get it?
 

BChico

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I got the email, they owe me 50 bucks or so, but i dont remember, if i really wanted the money that bad i wouldnt have spended it, lol
 

todays

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You're right. It is required by law to contact all people they owed, or possibly owned money to. As a business owner I have been burned many times like this for $500-$1000 - I really don't think I will ever see my $78 they owe me. I even have screen shots. 1 cent on the dollar or less, so lets see, if they owe you $500 that would be about the $5 minimum. I wouldn't bother, they will totally run out of money by the time they get down to us small people.
 

drac747

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I bet its some jerk who got ahold of the mailing list, sent out the email and is collecting everyones info to sell and abuse ;)
 

IITravel

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I got one too, PC owed me like $35 or so. I have not proof, but it must show up in there files or how else did they get my info to send this form to me.
 

RossMAN

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PC owes me $23 I'm wondering if it's worth the hassle/risk to complete these forms ... I doubt it, esp since they want your SOCIAL SECURITY NUMBER which in the wrong hands can cause you a lifetime of hurt.