Point of Airport Security

ChAoTiCpInOy

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What is the point of having to seperate all of your liquids? What is the point of having to only have 3 ounces of liquids? What is the point of having to take out your laptop to have it scanned? What is the point of all this if it does not increase security?
 

DingDingDao

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The point is to provide travelers with the illusion of security. That and annoy the shit out of everyone.
 

LS21

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Originally posted by: DingDingDao
The point is to provide travelers with the illusion of security.

illusion of security ----> maintain funding to keep TSA running

 

LS21

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the taking out of laptop is to prevent other metallic items not to obscure the laptop... if you have it in a sleeve its okay
 

spidey07

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Liquids were found to be used in bombs that blew up planes as well as intelligence that more liquids were going to be used to blow up more planes - that's why.
 

dainthomas

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Originally posted by: spidey07
Liquids were found to be used in bombs that blew up planes as well as intelligence that more liquids were going to be used to blow up more planes - that's why.

So in other words, to mildly inconvenience terrorists who could easily find a way to get what they need onto the plane.
 

sactoking

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Originally posted by: dainthomas
So in other words, to mildly inconvenience terrorists who could easily find a way to get what they need onto the plane.

Exactly. Evidence: see recent security lapses at gov't buildings.
 

SonnyDaze

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Originally posted by: sactoking
Originally posted by: dainthomas
So in other words, to mildly inconvenience terrorists who could easily find a way to get what they need onto the plane.

Exactly. Evidence: see recent security lapses at gov't buildings.

Yeah I was reading about that yesterday. Funny to see them get their asses busted but scary too.
 

So

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Originally posted by: spidey07
Liquids were found to be used in bombs that blew up planes as well as intelligence that more liquids were going to be used to blow up more planes - that's why.

As far as I recall, they never found any liquids to be used in bombs. They found discussions between people planning on blowing up planes on whether there would be a way to use liquids you could bring (or sneak) on a plane to make a practical weapon.
 

sao123

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because someone at NTSB was wathcing mcguyver reruns and realized that if you mix

shampoo
listerine
coke zero
and
red bull

and have a piece of

bubble gum
and a AA battery
or a lemon and 2 paperclips


you can blow up a 747.
 

Nebor

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It's an illusion. I've carried my automatic folding knife onto planes several times by accident. Many people have accidentally carried loaded concealed handguns onto planes, and some were even dumb enough to get off the plane and tell someone about it.
 

dainthomas

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Originally posted by: So
Originally posted by: spidey07
Liquids were found to be used in bombs that blew up planes as well as intelligence that more liquids were going to be used to blow up more planes - that's why.

As far as I recall, they never found any liquids to be used in bombs. They found discussions between people planning on blowing up planes on whether there would be a way to use liquids you could bring (or sneak) on a plane to make a practical weapon.

What's almost as bad is millions of people having to take their shoes off before every flight because of one dude. I guess we should be grateful he didn't have a bomb sewn into his pants or something.
 

PottedMeat

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Originally posted by: dainthomas
Originally posted by: So
Originally posted by: spidey07
Liquids were found to be used in bombs that blew up planes as well as intelligence that more liquids were going to be used to blow up more planes - that's why.

As far as I recall, they never found any liquids to be used in bombs. They found discussions between people planning on blowing up planes on whether there would be a way to use liquids you could bring (or sneak) on a plane to make a practical weapon.

What's almost as bad is millions of people having to take their shoes off before every flight because of one dude. I guess we should be grateful he didn't have a bomb sewn into his pants or something.

Or some sort of ass-bomb.
 

LS21

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a recent study found that all security breaches were caused by humans

they should ban humans from flights
 

KentState

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What I want to know is what's the point of going through security again before leaving the airport on an international flight and having to throw away bottled water? Plus you have to pick up your bags at two separate claim areas.
 

Nyati13

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Originally posted by: So
Originally posted by: spidey07
Liquids were found to be used in bombs that blew up planes as well as intelligence that more liquids were going to be used to blow up more planes - that's why.

As far as I recall, they never found any liquids to be used in bombs. They found discussions between people planning on blowing up planes on whether there would be a way to use liquids you could bring (or sneak) on a plane to make a practical weapon.

Right, the "liquid bomb" thing was never actually used, it was being talked about by a particularly inept wanna-be terrorist cell in Britain. They were thinking of using a bomb mixture (TATP or TAPT can't remember the exact thing) that apparently can't be properly mixed at room temperature and so would likely have failed anyway..... but we still get to hassle with the security measures that resulted from it.
 

buck

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Originally posted by: PottedMeat
Originally posted by: dainthomas
Originally posted by: So
Originally posted by: spidey07
Liquids were found to be used in bombs that blew up planes as well as intelligence that more liquids were going to be used to blow up more planes - that's why.

As far as I recall, they never found any liquids to be used in bombs. They found discussions between people planning on blowing up planes on whether there would be a way to use liquids you could bring (or sneak) on a plane to make a practical weapon.

What's almost as bad is millions of people having to take their shoes off before every flight because of one dude. I guess we should be grateful he didn't have a bomb sewn into his pants or something.

Or some sort of ass-bomb.

or a snuke.
 

ElFenix

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seems to vary a lot by airport as well. may have to do with the type of traffic that flies in and out. at houston hobby i said i had medically necessarily saline (contact lens solution) and they didn't give a rat's ass. in vegas they pulled out some giant sniffer machine and cotton swabs to determine if it really was contact lens solution.
 
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Originally posted by: sao123
because someone at NTSB was wathcing mcguyver reruns and realized that if you mix

shampoo
listerine
coke zero
and
red bull

and have a piece of

bubble gum
and a AA battery
or a lemon and 2 paperclips


you can blow up a 747.

:laugh:
 

CPA

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Originally posted by: sao123
because someone at NTSB was wathcing mcguyver reruns and realized that if you mix

shampoo
listerine
coke zero
and
red bull

and have a piece of

bubble gum
and a AA battery
or a lemon and 2 paperclips


you can blow up a 747.

Actually, with those items and their intelligence it was probably McGruber they were watching.
 
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Originally posted by: ChAoTiCpInOy
What is the point of having to seperate all of your liquids? What is the point of having to only have 3 ounces of liquids? What is the point of having to take out your laptop to have it scanned? What is the point of all this if it does not increase security?

It's retarded. I was at an airport and they asked the people as they walked through on an honor system do you have anything in your pockets such as matches/lighter or liquids.

I'll be honest. I stepped through with eyedrops and didn't say anything.

It's a dumb unenforceable system that they decided to employ that doesn't solve anything. I suppose once they get those X-ray systems where they just see through your clothes then airport security might work. Wait they already have those huh? Isn't it an option to go through one of those instead of a strip search?

Originally posted by: ElFenix
seems to vary a lot by airport as well. may have to do with the type of traffic that flies in and out. at houston hobby i said i had medically necessarily saline (contact lens solution) and they didn't give a rat's ass. in vegas they pulled out some giant sniffer machine and cotton swabs to determine if it really was contact lens solution.

Inconsistency really messes things up. It's a flaw to our nation's security and makes me question why half of these regulations are in place. I remember someone talked about checking in firearms and how it varies from airport to airport where even if you pack it 100% legally you could get a pass or you could get totally screwed.