Point me towards a good revolver
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I don't like revolvers. Would rather have 15-rounds of 9mm than 6 of whatever. Reloading is also faster with semi-autos.
Do you have samll hands? My girlfriend preferred shooting a revolver than my nine cuz of her smaller paws. I prefer autos for the opposite reason.
Have you tried any other autos? The Glock has a drastically different trigger pull than typical DA/SA pistol.
Do you have samll hands? My girlfriend preferred shooting a revolver than my nine cuz of her smaller paws. I prefer autos for the opposite reason.
Have you tried any other autos? The Glock has a drastically different trigger pull than typical DA/SA pistol.
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<< Do you have small hands? >>
I have medium size hands
<< Have you tried any other autos? The Glock has a drastically different trigger pull than typical DA/SA pistol. >>
No, only the glock. I guess part of the reason I like the revolver is the accuracy, it seemed better than the glock for whatever reason.
Open to suggestions of course.
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I like Dan Wessons.I have two,a .357 mag,and a .44 mag.Both are extremly accurate,in fact they are called target revolvers.Colt makes some nice ones as well,with the python being the best,in my opinion.Used,$250-400,new,more.The Dan Wessons come power vented from the factory.Little holes around the end of the barrel allow gas to escape,reducing felt recoil.The shroud that fits over the actual barrel hides this.This is a pretty trick tweak and it works.Shotguns have used this for years,called a recoil compensator,same principle.
you know what i think i stupid? I, being under 21, can't buy a handgun in the state of CA.
but yet, just for being 18, I can buy a shotgun. I can flipping take someone's torso off with a boomstick, yet I can't buy a 9mm??
i know that 9's are potentially concealable, but seriously, what are you more afraid of? a 12 gauge, or a pea shooting 9mm?
but yet, just for being 18, I can buy a shotgun. I can flipping take someone's torso off with a boomstick, yet I can't buy a 9mm??
i know that 9's are potentially concealable, but seriously, what are you more afraid of? a 12 gauge, or a pea shooting 9mm?
Take a good look at the Taurus line. They are inexpensive and made under the S&W patents (not all models, but most).
The S&W Model 66 and like models are VERY nice. .357/.38 in a range of barrel lengths.
If you've got the money and the are willing to take the time to look, the Colt Python (.357/.38) is MOST excellent.
The S&W Model 66 and like models are VERY nice. .357/.38 in a range of barrel lengths.
If you've got the money and the are willing to take the time to look, the Colt Python (.357/.38) is MOST excellent.
I want to preface this by promoting SAFETY and REPSONSIBLE FIREARMS OWNERSHIP. No matter what you have read or heard about NRA, only a moron would argue with their safety courses. Please check NRA's safety page to learn the very important firearms safety rules and find out where you can go locally to get a NRA Personal Protection course (basic pistol course with practical shooting plus local laws and responsibilities)... your local gun dealers should be able to help you find such a course. Expect to bring your own ammo (100 rounds max), own pistol, pay $35 to $50 (rarely this much), and learn a LOT about handling your firearm safely and expertly.
Anyway, I am a big fan of Ruger revolvers (and I have fired a wide variety of brands). They are very well built and quite rugged. Very often they are able to take more pressure than other common brands like Colt and S&W (I am an expereienced handloader). I also much prefer Ruger's coiled mainspring designs in their Double-Actions over the traditional leaf-spring designs found in S&W and most of the rest... a much smarter design to me as an engineer (I cannot see any advantage to the leafs).
I own quite a few firearms of all sorts --revolvers, semi-auto pistols, rifles, shotguns --and every one has its advantages and disadvantages. To a new gun owner, a revolver is VERY easy to use. For home defense and recreational shooting, a revolver is quite practical. While reloading a revolver is required more often than a semi-auto and takes a little longer, most bad guys do not want to hang around once you point a gun at them much less fire one. With practice, one can reload a revolver relatively quickly. Revolvers are far simpler to operate, usually have far less parts, and are more reliable in operation than semi-autos. Often, revolvers with barrels of the same length tend to be more accurate than semi-autos, but this is not always true. I invested a total of $1500 in my Para Ordnance P16-40 Stainless Limited for IPSC competition and, with the custom work and match parts, it rivals most 5"-barreled revolvers, but at a cost of three to five times as much... but then I can fire off a very fast 18 rounds (aftermarket extended floorplates in the mags) before reloading. Basically, a good revolver is cheaper than a good semi-auto pistol and more accurate for the dollar. Expect to pay $300 to $500 for a nice revolver. Obviously, shop around, find something that fits your hand, and consider what you really want it for: strictly for recreation (4" to 6" barrel)? or do you want some concealability too (3" to 4"
? or do you want to possibly compete or want really good target shooting capability (6" to 8". Hunters using scoped revolvers use up to 10.5" barrels!
If you strictly want to shoot for pleasure, a .22LR pistol is relatively cheap to buy and very cheap to feed with ammo. Otherwise, I suspect you will find a revolver in .357Magnum the ideal all-around caliber of choice. It is readily available and a good mid-range size with as little or as much 'punch' as one could want. Further, all .357Mag revolvers can shoot .38Special, which is cheaper and a little gentler.
My wife, a very small person (4'11", 95#), finds our Ruger SP101 .357Mag (stainless, 3" barrel, based on double-action GP100 service pistol) very easy to handle. It is also very easy to conceal, and surprisingly easy to control for its size (I have found 110-115gr in .38Spcl +P+ work better than .357Mag). It amazingly works well in my big hands and, after a mainspring swap, is actually enjoyable to shoot.
Then there is the double-action stainless .44Mag Ruger Redhawk with 7.5" barrel. This is a lot of gun t handle and not a very good way for a beginner to learn to shoot accurately. This is most suited to hunting but is a good target shooter as well.
Then there is the fun 'his' and 'hers' matching set of Ruger Bisley Blackhawks in .45LongColt and .22LR. These are fun single-action revolvers very reminiscent of traditonal cowboy revolvers, but a little more accurate with their modern sights, and sturdier with their beefier design than the cowboy-knockoffs.
There are many more Ruger models, just look at Ruger's revolver offerings.
I could tell you plenty more but choose to let you digest this and ask more questions later. Please remember, Safety First! You can also check rec.guns safety FAQ. Please do not hesitate to ask if you have any questions.
Anyway, I am a big fan of Ruger revolvers (and I have fired a wide variety of brands). They are very well built and quite rugged. Very often they are able to take more pressure than other common brands like Colt and S&W (I am an expereienced handloader). I also much prefer Ruger's coiled mainspring designs in their Double-Actions over the traditional leaf-spring designs found in S&W and most of the rest... a much smarter design to me as an engineer (I cannot see any advantage to the leafs).
I own quite a few firearms of all sorts --revolvers, semi-auto pistols, rifles, shotguns --and every one has its advantages and disadvantages. To a new gun owner, a revolver is VERY easy to use. For home defense and recreational shooting, a revolver is quite practical. While reloading a revolver is required more often than a semi-auto and takes a little longer, most bad guys do not want to hang around once you point a gun at them much less fire one. With practice, one can reload a revolver relatively quickly. Revolvers are far simpler to operate, usually have far less parts, and are more reliable in operation than semi-autos. Often, revolvers with barrels of the same length tend to be more accurate than semi-autos, but this is not always true. I invested a total of $1500 in my Para Ordnance P16-40 Stainless Limited for IPSC competition and, with the custom work and match parts, it rivals most 5"-barreled revolvers, but at a cost of three to five times as much... but then I can fire off a very fast 18 rounds (aftermarket extended floorplates in the mags) before reloading. Basically, a good revolver is cheaper than a good semi-auto pistol and more accurate for the dollar. Expect to pay $300 to $500 for a nice revolver. Obviously, shop around, find something that fits your hand, and consider what you really want it for: strictly for recreation (4" to 6" barrel)? or do you want some concealability too (3" to 4"
? or do you want to possibly compete or want really good target shooting capability (6" to 8". Hunters using scoped revolvers use up to 10.5" barrels!If you strictly want to shoot for pleasure, a .22LR pistol is relatively cheap to buy and very cheap to feed with ammo. Otherwise, I suspect you will find a revolver in .357Magnum the ideal all-around caliber of choice. It is readily available and a good mid-range size with as little or as much 'punch' as one could want. Further, all .357Mag revolvers can shoot .38Special, which is cheaper and a little gentler.
My wife, a very small person (4'11", 95#), finds our Ruger SP101 .357Mag (stainless, 3" barrel, based on double-action GP100 service pistol) very easy to handle. It is also very easy to conceal, and surprisingly easy to control for its size (I have found 110-115gr in .38Spcl +P+ work better than .357Mag). It amazingly works well in my big hands and, after a mainspring swap, is actually enjoyable to shoot.
Then there is the double-action stainless .44Mag Ruger Redhawk with 7.5" barrel. This is a lot of gun t handle and not a very good way for a beginner to learn to shoot accurately. This is most suited to hunting but is a good target shooter as well.
Then there is the fun 'his' and 'hers' matching set of Ruger Bisley Blackhawks in .45LongColt and .22LR. These are fun single-action revolvers very reminiscent of traditonal cowboy revolvers, but a little more accurate with their modern sights, and sturdier with their beefier design than the cowboy-knockoffs.
There are many more Ruger models, just look at Ruger's revolver offerings.
I could tell you plenty more but choose to let you digest this and ask more questions later. Please remember, Safety First! You can also check rec.guns safety FAQ. Please do not hesitate to ask if you have any questions.
Missing linc: while i agree with you that safety comes first and that only an idiot would argue with there courses, only an idiot would need one; here's my summation:
Always treat everygun as if it's loaded
Be sure of your target
don't ever point anygun, loaded or not at another person
shooting striaght up is bad, the bullet comes back at the same speed it left
Keep all weapons and ammo out of the reach of children
And last, be sure to follow all local regultions about guns.
All of that stuff is common, although common sense is lacking in our society
Now on to guns: I aim quite partial to a beretta 92fs. It's essentially the same gun that police and military use. I thought it was very accurate and the 17 shot clip lets you shoot much longer b4 reloading than a revolver.
I haven't shot a great many guns but that was my favorite. I can't wait to get my hands on a thirty ought six.
Moose
Always treat everygun as if it's loaded
Be sure of your target
don't ever point anygun, loaded or not at another person
shooting striaght up is bad, the bullet comes back at the same speed it left
Keep all weapons and ammo out of the reach of children
And last, be sure to follow all local regultions about guns.
All of that stuff is common, although common sense is lacking in our society
Now on to guns: I aim quite partial to a beretta 92fs. It's essentially the same gun that police and military use. I thought it was very accurate and the 17 shot clip lets you shoot much longer b4 reloading than a revolver.
I haven't shot a great many guns but that was my favorite. I can't wait to get my hands on a thirty ought six.
Moose
MMM, ought six, great rifle. You should try my dads mule, the .338. Called that because it kicks like one.
RGN Has the right Idea the Tauras is the best buy for the money they also have the best warrantee. If you want a S&W I would recommend a good used model 686 357 and shoot 38 specials in it. Get a good loading tool and load your own shells, save a lot of money.
Bleep
Bleep
Those 9 shot 'topbreak' H&R .22s are a good plinker
If you're after a .38/357, Smith & Wesson makes an 8 shoter, & its designed to take half moon rim clips & donut rim clips too
Mind you If I had a choice I'd go for this .455 Webley-Fosbery Automatic Revolver. That way you get a very quick double action revolver with the light trigger action of a single action job, as recoil forces rotate the cylinder & cocks. the hammer. See those angular slots on the side of the rotating chamber , well when you fire the gun the top half of the gun recoils back & a notch in those slts forces the chamber to rotate & hammer to cock too. This revolver is reknown to have a very fast accurate action.
If you're after a .38/357, Smith & Wesson makes an 8 shoter, & its designed to take half moon rim clips & donut rim clips too
Mind you If I had a choice I'd go for this .455 Webley-Fosbery Automatic Revolver. That way you get a very quick double action revolver with the light trigger action of a single action job, as recoil forces rotate the cylinder & cocks. the hammer. See those angular slots on the side of the rotating chamber , well when you fire the gun the top half of the gun recoils back & a notch in those slts forces the chamber to rotate & hammer to cock too. This revolver is reknown to have a very fast accurate action.
Majestic, there is no substitute for hands-on one-on-one instruction to help another person develop excellent safety habits and master their shooting skills ...NO SUBSTITUTE. $35 is a great deal for anyone, especially for inexperienced shooters. Every firearm owner owes it to their fellow man to learn and practice proper and safe use of their firearms.
All military services and all LEAs (Law Enforcement Agencies) give regular courses, including one-on-one instruction to each student, more to the ones who need it. All military personnel get their first experience with a firearm in basic training (even officers, maybe excluding clergy and medical personnel) I am just an engineer in the USAF, but I am afforded the opportunity to go requal on the M9 (Beretta 92F) once a year (though I have not been sent abroad yet, it is required if I deploy overseas regardless off what my job is). BTW, I do not think very highly of the 92F. IMO, it is just another semi-auto. Not to mention the 9mm is suck compared to other offerings. To me, the minimum semi-auto round for combat or self-protection is a .40S&W. The 9mm is just too weak in velocity (and Kinetic Energy), especially for its diameter and mass to be very effective, especially at longer ranges. Sure, any bullet hitting someone can kill, but the 9mm offers less margin. Why are so many LEAs switching to higher calibers (esp. .40S&W) from 9mm?
There is no dispute over the safety rules, which can be found at the links I gave, but you cannot learn everything by reading it on the internet. I am a darn good shooter because a number of different experienced people (all of them are NRA- or military-qualified instructors, except my dad) have taken the time to give me one-on-one help. I cannot stress enough how important it is for someone to learn from experienced and qualified instructors. The local range that my club hosts is a very friendly place to learn --we have over 50 NRA-qualified instructors in the club (most are retired military), and usually at least one of them is there at any given time... and they are glad to give pointers or give one-on-one help anyone for free.
All military services and all LEAs (Law Enforcement Agencies) give regular courses, including one-on-one instruction to each student, more to the ones who need it. All military personnel get their first experience with a firearm in basic training (even officers, maybe excluding clergy and medical personnel) I am just an engineer in the USAF, but I am afforded the opportunity to go requal on the M9 (Beretta 92F) once a year (though I have not been sent abroad yet, it is required if I deploy overseas regardless off what my job is). BTW, I do not think very highly of the 92F. IMO, it is just another semi-auto. Not to mention the 9mm is suck compared to other offerings. To me, the minimum semi-auto round for combat or self-protection is a .40S&W. The 9mm is just too weak in velocity (and Kinetic Energy), especially for its diameter and mass to be very effective, especially at longer ranges. Sure, any bullet hitting someone can kill, but the 9mm offers less margin. Why are so many LEAs switching to higher calibers (esp. .40S&W) from 9mm?
There is no dispute over the safety rules, which can be found at the links I gave, but you cannot learn everything by reading it on the internet. I am a darn good shooter because a number of different experienced people (all of them are NRA- or military-qualified instructors, except my dad) have taken the time to give me one-on-one help. I cannot stress enough how important it is for someone to learn from experienced and qualified instructors. The local range that my club hosts is a very friendly place to learn --we have over 50 NRA-qualified instructors in the club (most are retired military), and usually at least one of them is there at any given time... and they are glad to give pointers or give one-on-one help anyone for free.
DefRef, if you would learn how to aim and fire a weapon properly, you would only need a revolver. One shot is all it takes. With my speed loader, I can load my revolver just as fast, if not faster than my auto.
Another one you might consider is teh new Beretta 9000s Sub Compact. Its not a revolver however.. I will probably get one of these and see how good it is. It comes in either .40 S&W or 9x19mm. Its new for 2001. Another new one for 2001 that is a little bigger than the Beretta is the CZ Model 110 in 9x19mm and .40S&W.
Schola
Schola
RGN is right about the S&W and a Taurus. I don't know about your area but here in kentucky you can expect to pay $300 - $400. If it was up to me I would go with the H&K USP, but that's because I'm an owner and love mine.
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