PNY's Cpu & gpu water cooled gtx580 card/unit, *awesome*

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This gtx580 at a factory overclocked 857 core is fast as hell and runs at 47c and cools a i7 870 @ 4.2 better than a Noctua NH-D14 @ 52c. With only a 120mm push/pull radiator!
5 year warranty!

http://www.pureoverclock.com/review.php?id=1354&page=1
The reviewer made some comments in his forum here
http://forums.pureoverclock.com/showthread.php?13994-PNY-GTX-580-Liquid-Cooled-GPU-and-CPU

They overclocked the gtx580 card to 970 core with temps nowhere near as high as an air cooled unit.

Quote:
"Truth be told, PNY has two models available: a GPU-only version, and a GPU + CPU system. We can hear the guffaws already from water cooling enthusiasts; cooling a CPU and GPU with a 120mm radiator is a joke. And we'd normally be one of the first to agree with you. But after getting these cards on the bench, we'll admit we were forced to eat our own objections."

The card comes in 2 versions with cpu block and without.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...ion=pny+gtx580

Here is another video that backs this review up.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=af36guJbnBA&feature=player_embedded

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And look they used Fraps for there benchmarks. :)

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notty22

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I'd be curious to see under the card shroud. I'm guessing. They must be using a combination block that benefits from the water running through it, and air running over the top of that via the standard blower fan that's on the dual slot card. So the factory base plate/sink over the ram and vrm's is probably cooled by that same air flow.
 

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what a great price too only 519.99 can't wait to buy it. thanks for this topic happy medium
 

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I'd be curious to see under the card shroud. I'm guessing. They must be using a combination block that benefits from the water running through it, and air running over the top of that via the standard blower fan that's on the dual slot card. So the factory base plate/sink over the ram and vrm's is probably cooled by that same air flow.

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I wonder if this will fit on any gtx580?
 

notty22

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Probably not. They probably are using a modified plate there, with a slightly modified pump/block. Because the thread where a Corsair employee modified a setup on a gtx 480 or 580 ICR, it was a lot of little grinding, shaping, drilling.
 

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what a great price too only 519.99 can't wait to buy it. thanks for this topic happy medium

Actually its $559.99. You were looking at the one without the CPU Heatsink addon.
 

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Actually its $559.99. You were looking at the one without the CPU Heatsink addon.

Actually I dont think the price is too bad, when you consider the price of a Coolmaster H80 is about 80$ for a cpu watercooling unit.

That brings a water cooled gtx580 @ 857 core to 480$, not bad really.
It pretty much garauntees over 900 core overclock with low temps and less noise.

Considering the price of other water cooling cards with no radiator,no cpu cooler, and pump,ect ect ect, I think it a great economical design.
Zotac and Evga cards are at least 100$ more.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814500214
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814130601
 
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thilanliyan

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Cooling a 580 and a CPU IS going to be hard on a 120mm rad, even a thick one. He does say the fans are loud though. So maybe the fans have to ramp up a lot to keep the heat in check.

I myself have 1x240mm and 1x120mm rads in my case and while bitcoin mining (no CPU load) the air coming out of the rad is fairly hot, and this is with a 6950. But then my fans are running at only 5v for quietness and the loudest thing in my case is the pump.
 
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blackened23

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I saw this over at overclock.net and the results look too good to be true with respect to the CPU cooling portion. Were they testing in alaska or something? I dunno man, i'd like to see another review that can verify this. Looking at the size of the radiator/fans/etc, there's just no feasible way that it could cool a CPU that well, IMO, and thats also the sentiment among all the posts at overclock.net.

http://www.overclock.net/hardware-news/1107427-pureoc-pny-gtx-580-liquid-cooled.html

But then again, discounting the CPU cooler which is completely optional....looks pretty awesome -- as long as it isn't any louder than other GTX 580's
 
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Wouldn't it be better to use a high end air-cooling solution since an air cooled card is cooling the vrm's and memory?
 

TakeNoPrisoners

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It looks like the blower is only cooling the memory and the GPU is cooled by the water cooling.

It might work ok for stock speeds on both but overclocking would seriously be affected.

The heat would need to be moved out of that small radiatior very quickly to make the temps decent. I would guess this thing is very loud with an overclocked CPU in the loop.

I like the idea but would prefer the same thickness rad with a 2x120 design to reduce noise with 4 120mm fans.
 
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happy medium

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I saw this over at overclock.net and the results look too good to be true with respect to the CPU cooling portion. Were they testing in alaska or something? I dunno man, i'd like to see another review that can verify this. Looking at the size of the radiator/fans/etc, there's just no feasible way that it could cool a CPU that well, IMO, and thats also the sentiment among all the posts at overclock.net.

http://www.overclock.net/hardware-news/1107427-pureoc-pny-gtx-580-liquid-cooled.html

But then again, discounting the CPU cooler which is completely optional....looks pretty awesome -- as long as it isn't any louder than other GTX 580's

I think this review confirms that this solution looks legit so far.

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=af36g...layer_embedded
 

Meghan54

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I love all the justification being done on PureOC saying the temps are real, which they aren't.

A 120mm rad, even a thick one like this kit has or like a Thermochill rad, still cannot dissipate more than about 200W of heat before the delta begins to suffer badly. And a 580 with an OC'd i7 cpu will definitely put out more than 200W of heat.

They seem to think the two low power pumps are one part that's responsible, but really, using 1/4" tubing is going to be the limiting factor in how much flow can be achieved with any pumps. And water cooling isn't all about flow. Even low flow systems can be quite effective.

Then there's the fan on the card......seems they think it's responsible for all this "cutting edge setup" PNY's using (and none of this setup is cutting edge, just an assembly of off-the-shelf crap). But when you really examine the card, the fan is only being used to cool the VRM's. And the fan's speed does not ramp up when the card's under stress at all.....says so in the "review". And it certainly cannot be cooling the gpu at all, that's completely covered by the gpu block, which is under a layer of plastic. Maybe if the block was naked metal and finned they'd have a point. But with the pump being buried under the plastic and on top of the gpu block, there's no way that fan on the card is doing anything to help cool the gpu.

Then the cpu temps.....completely unbelievable. I'm not doubting the gpu temps---you can just about spit on a gpu and drop its temps significantly. But an OC'd cpu in the same loop as an OC'd 580 gpu? No way in hell with that single 120mm rad is the cpu temp that low.

Then, the tester in the PureOC forums sidestepped the question of whether he disabled the 50&#37; throttling the 580 has when faced with FurMark running full out. And Prime isn't exactly the most heat creating program to test with. Should have used Kombuster with the gpu and something like Linpak or Intel Burn to heat the cpu.

C'est la vie. Guess the tester got the results he wanted, or needed, to have. Funny this little kit is getting better temps with weaker parts than the guys over at XS are with the real top of the line gpu and cpu blocks.
 

blackened23

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Sorry it was in my first post also. Unless this guy is lying too..................................... He uses programs other than furmark, so no thermal throttling to argue about. :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=af36guJbnBA&feature=player_embedded

That video confirms what I thought, the CPU cooling seems to be average. He hit 70C in prime 95 so it stands to reason he would hit signifigantly higher temps with intel burn test or linx.

Not knocking the product, seems like a good product -- but the CPU temps in the original review seemed too good to be true. Anyway, this product sounds pretty tempting as long as its not louder than other gtx580 products, i'd probably get the version without the CPU cooler.