PNY GT620 64-bit 1GB DDR3 $34.99 FS @ Newegg

VirtualLarry

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Nobody else thought that these cards could be useful, at least in the short term, for $35?
 

daveybrat

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They probably bought it but just didn't reply. That's an excellent price for that card. Would make a great HTPC card. :)
 

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I don't think 96 cores would be any better over integrated graphics on today's motherboards.
 

VirtualLarry

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I don't think 96 cores would be any better over integrated graphics on today's motherboards.

I saw someone post a chart recently, comparing a 6450 (160 VLIW4 cores), and it was around the same speed as an Intel HD4000. 160 VLIW4 cores is like 32-40 CUDA cores.

So this card should be 2.5x faster than up to Intel's highest IB IGPs.

Edit: Regardless, I'm already in for three. Might fire up my quad-GPU box again, just for lolz.
 
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D: 64bit DDR3?! Even an IGP has more memory bandwidth than that.
I have no doubt Intel's HD4000 would give it a run for the money.

Wait, didn't the GT430 have 96 cores and 128bit DDR3...

Now I gotta go look at OLD benches.

I'll bet an 8800GT is faster.
 

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What happens if I try to stick this in a pci-e 1x slot? I'm trying to find a low profile card for my headless home server, but don't want to spend $50 or $60 on a card.

Thanks
 

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D: 64bit DDR3?! Even an IGP has more memory bandwidth than that.
I have no doubt Intel's HD4000 would give it a run for the money.

Wait, didn't the GT430 have 96 cores and 128bit DDR3...

Now I gotta go look at OLD benches.

I'll bet an 8800GT is faster.

Of course it is. 256-bit, and 112-128 CUDA cores. But it's also big, hot, and noisy, and doesn't come in LP.
 

VirtualLarry

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What happens if I try to stick this in a pci-e 1x slot? I'm trying to find a low profile card for my headless home server, but don't want to spend $50 or $60 on a card.

Thanks

It won't fit? This is an x16 card, not an x1. YMMV with a dremel tool.
 

ch33zw1z

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What happens if I try to stick this in a pci-e 1x slot? I'm trying to find a low profile card for my headless home server, but don't want to spend $50 or $60 on a card.

Thanks

it won't work, you can put a smaller x card in a bigger slot...but not vice versa.

example, x1 card in x4 slot works, x16 in x8 won't work.
 

ch33zw1z

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yea, seems legit. Since you want to argue semantics, let me rephrase. An x16 slot is designed to take x1, x4, x8, and x16 cards. An x1 card is designed to take an x1 card.

If you want to use an unsupported configuration, then by all means do so. It's your choice. I'm sure that's what the guy wants for his home server, uh huh.

Besides, you didn't show anything that actually made a physical x16 card fit into a physical x1 slot.
 
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Schmide

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yea, seems legit. Since you want to argue semantics, let me rephrase. An x16 slot is designed to take x1, x4, x8, and x16 cards. An x1 card is designed to take an x1 card.

If you want to use an unsupported configuration, then by all means do so. It's your choice. I'm sure that's what the guy wants for his home server, uh huh.

Besides, you didn't show anything that actually made a physical x16 card fit into a physical x1 slot.

Dude. I was just giving the proper information. I'm not here to argue.
 

ch33zw1z

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Dude. I was just giving the proper information. I'm not here to argue.

Then provide it. What was provided is a mod that typical users won't be doing, doesn't adhere to PCI-E standards, and the guy I was replying to more than likely doesn't need.
 

Schmide

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Then provide it. What was provided is a mod that typical users won't be doing, doesn't adhere to PCI-E standards, and the guy I was replying to more than likely doesn't need.

The information I linked to is legit. It shows the steps necessary to get it to work and what termination issues you may have. Other than the physical imitations, that were also alluded to by VirtualLarry, it adheres to and works because of PCI-E standards.

It is not your job to decide what one user needs, doesn't need, or is willing to do. Provide the information and let him or her decide.
 

ch33zw1z

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The information I linked to is legit. It shows the steps necessary to get it to work and what termination issues you may have. Other than the physical imitations, that were also alluded to by VirtualLarry, it adheres to and works because of PCI-E standards.

It is not your job to decide what one user needs, doesn't need, or is willing to do. Provide the information and let him or her decide.

It's not your job to give shitty advice on some guys file server.

"Uhh, you can make it work, here's a non-standard mod that works great, unless it doesn't, then you're buying more parts. Awesome huh? At least you don't have to solder on this one."

Try a different subforum, maybe that will help.
 

Schmide

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Try a different subforum, maybe that will help.

Why? I took it up with you. Why should the mods be involved? Are you offended it some way?

You're advice is sound in your opinion. You're welcome to it, and it's up for debate. I disagree with your advice, and replied to it. Don't like it? oh well.

Once you declare my advice inappropriate to this forum, that is a mod issue.

I'm helping a guy that asked a legitimate question by correcting a vague statement you made. "It won't work" is far from absolute.
 

ch33zw1z

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Once you declare my advice inappropriate to this forum, that is a mod issue.

I'm helping a guy that asked a legitimate question by correcting a vague statement you made. "It won't work" is far from absolute.

Then take it up with the mods if you think it's necessary. I'd rather debate it like a big boy.

It is absolute. Go ahead and try forcing that x16 card into an x1 slot....it absolutely won't work.

Oh, what's this? someone's create a ribbon cable that will let it work? great...people are ingenious, but it's non standard, your mileage will always vary, and it's completely up for debate on whether or not it's a good idea regarding this entire thread in general, and specifically the user I was replying to.

My original post was 100% sound advice, if you disagreed, why did you reply to me instead of just taking it up with the mods? Or even just quoted the user who asked the question and give your answer? Interesting...instead you replied to me. Take your own advice?
 
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tdawg

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it won't work, you can put a smaller x card in a bigger slot...but not vice versa.

example, x1 card in x4 slot works, x16 in x8 won't work.

Ah, I had it backwards, thinking that little tab on the front of the x16 card would fit in the 1x slot, instead of the correct way of using smaller connectors in larger slots.

Thanks.
 

Schmide

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Then take it up with the mods if you think it's necessary. I'd rather debate it like a big boy.

What is there to debate? You think I should post in another forum, I think it belongs here, that's a mod issue. You were the one trying to stifle my debating by telling me to go somewhere else.

It is absolute. Go ahead and try forcing that x16 card into an x1 slot....it absolutely won't work.

Oh, what's this? someone's create a ribbon cable that will let it work? great...people are ingenious, but it's non standard, your mileage will always vary, and it's completely up for debate on whether or not it's a good idea regarding this entire thread in general, and specifically the user I was replying to.

The question was

What happens if I try to stick this in a pci-e 1x slot?

Before the ribbon cables, we used to cut the back off the slot or cut the pins off the video card. This isn't new, it isn't absolute.

This is a tech site and thinking out of the box is very common. I think of the ribbon cable as an adapter, the same way you would buy a bracket to make a HSF fit on a socket.

My original post was 100% sound advice, if you disagreed, why did you reply to me instead of just taking it up with the mods? Or even just quoted the user who asked the question and give your answer? Interesting...instead you replied to me. Take your own advice?

I replied to you because you gave a blanket statement saying it won't work. I supplied the information for making it work. You seem to think I'm doing a disservice by giving someone information.

Maybe we should all just go buy Dells.
 
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ch33zw1z

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What is there to debate? You think I should post in another forum, I think it belongs here, that's a mod issue. You were the one trying to stifle my debating by telling me to go somewhere else.

Yea, Hot Deals is where the mod action is at! I said move it to another forum if you don't want people disagreeing with you here. It's hot deals, not let's mod.

Before the ribbon cables, we used to cut the back off the slot or cut the pins off the video card. This isn't new, it isn't absolute.

We? you and the other guy? Good for you.

That's not standard, and it is absolute that as designed that an x16 will not work in an x1, x4, or x8 slot. In fact, the mod proves it. Unless you have some footage of someone jamming that x16 into an x1 and making it work without modding...

This is a tech site and thinking out of the box is very common. I think of the ribbon cable as an adapter, the same way you would buy a bracket to make a HSF fit on a socket.

Oh yea, absolutely. A HSF bracket built for a specific socket is the same as modding a PCIE slot. lol...

I replied to you because you gave a blanket statement saying it won't work. I supplied the information for making it work. You seem to think I'm doing a disservice by giving someone information.

Guess you should've replied to the poster, or taken it up with the mods. Right? My blanket statement applies 100% to the question. It's how it was designed

Maybe we should all just go buy Dells.

Don't go getting all butt hurt over it. If you buy a Dell, you can mod stuff on it. In fact, you'll probably have to mod it to make it do what you want...sounds like its right up your alley.

I'm all for additional information. And while the information you provide makes the geek in me all giddy, it's not what I would recommend to a guy looking for a video card for his headless server.

Context matters.