PNY 9600GSO 768MB PCI-Express Video Card $49.99AR + Shipping

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[AzN]

Pretty hot if you get the rebate. i would choose this over 9600gt.

 

[jlin101]

got this card two months ago--the extra RAM doesn't really offer more performance compared to the the 384 MB version. One thing I didn't like PNY's 9600 GSO is that the fan blows toward the front of the case, and is at 100 % all the time without any adjustability.

 

[gba]

I replaced the stock cooler with an Arctic Cooling Accelero S1 Rev 2 VGA Cooler without a hitch. Fit well with my Abit IP 35 Pro MB in my CM Mystique RC-631 case.

Good discussion about this card here.

 

[mp3ster]

I couldn't resist, i picked up a couple of them..... DAMN YOU ANANDTECH!!!

 

[VirtualLarry]

Hmm, I need another single-slot 9600GSO card to replace my Asus dual-slot one that burned out, but I'm broke right now. Sigh.

 

[Schmide]

I don't need but got.

 

[Insomniator]

Would these be better in sli than a single 4850?

 

[AzN]

Originally posted by: jlin101
got this card two months ago--the extra RAM doesn't really offer more performance compared to the the 384 MB version. One thing I didn't like PNY's 9600 GSO is that the fan blows toward the front of the case, and is at 100 % all the time without any adjustability.

You can always SLI these and that extra ram would surely help for sure in 1920x1200 resolution.

For $100 you can easily get GTX280 level of performance.

 

[AzN]

Originally posted by: Insomniator
Would these be better in sli than a single 4850?

If you have SLI mobo it sure would. It would walk all over the 4870 let alone 4850.

These GSO overclock great. It's common to see 25% or more overclocking.

 

[Insomniator]

Originally posted by: Azn

Originally posted by: Insomniator
Would these be better in sli than a single 4850?

If you have SLI mobo it sure would. It would walk all over the 4870 let alone 4850.

These GSO overclock great. It's common to see 25% or more overclocking.

Azn, you said what I wanted to hear lol.

Lost 200 in AC a hour ago... come home.. buy two video cards... what a world...

BUT my 4850 will be in the for sale forum for ~100 real soon 😉


Regardless, I just want to check out SLI.. the only friggin game I play is starcraft so its not like I need the performance.

 

[Schmide]

Originally posted by: Azn

Originally posted by: Insomniator
Would these be better in sli than a single 4850?

If you have SLI mobo it sure would. It would walk all over the 4870 let alone 4850.

These GSO overclock great. It's common to see 25% or more overclocking.

To say these would walk over a 4870 is just plain misinformation.

For about 8 months I was running 9600gt(s) in SLI, tried a couple *9600gso(s) in SLI, and recently upgraded to a 4870 512. All on a q6600 at 3ghz. In my opinion the single 4870 is way better. The 9600gt(s) in sli had the highest 3dmark06 14,030 vs the 4870 getting 13700 or so. The main difference is the SLI cards would bog down when fog was on the screen, while the 4870 would chomp right through it. The SLI cards would also have trouble running at 1920x1200 while the 4870 has none.

Still great cards

* I got the $35 and $45 evga 9600gso deal

 

[Schmide]

Clarifying, they would run at 1920x1200 fine. Some games would have trouble at said resolution.

 

[DoubleHelix747]

I have a a 9600GT with 512MB memory and 256-bit interface and that is factory OC'd to 700Mhz. I bought that for $49.99 as well. Wondering how would this GSO card with 768MB memory and 192-bit interface compare to that and if it is worthy "upgrade"? Currently I have only a 19" monitor but planning to go to a 24" one soon.

 

[Insomniator]

ack hope I can find the SLI bridge that came with my mobo like 2 years ago..............

 

[tbogstad]

Originally posted by: DoubleHelix747
I have a a 9600GT with 512MB memory and 256-bit interface and that is factory OC'd to 700Mhz. I bought that for $49.99 as well. Wondering how would this GSO card with 768MB memory and 192-bit interface compare to that and if it is worthy "upgrade"? Currently I have only a 19" monitor but planning to go to a 24" one soon.

I looked up the benchmarks, and this would be a side grade if not very slight down grade.

ie: no better than your 9600GT overclocked.

I have the EVGA 9600GT SSC clocked at 740/2000 i got for $67.00 after $40.00 rebate, which is def better than this, but was a little more money too.

 

[AzN]

Originally posted by: Schmide

Originally posted by: Azn

Originally posted by: Insomniator
Would these be better in sli than a single 4850?

If you have SLI mobo it sure would. It would walk all over the 4870 let alone 4850.

These GSO overclock great. It's common to see 25% or more overclocking.

To say these would walk over a 4870 is just plain misinformation.

For about 8 months I was running 9600gt(s) in SLI, tried a couple *9600gso(s) in SLI, and recently upgraded to a 4870 512. All on a q6600 at 3ghz. In my opinion the single 4870 is way better. The 9600gt(s) in sli had the highest 3dmark06 14,030 vs the 4870 getting 13700 or so. The main difference is the SLI cards would bog down when fog was on the screen, while the 4870 would chomp right through it. The SLI cards would also have trouble running at 1920x1200 while the 4870 has none.

Still great cards

* I got the $35 and $45 evga 9600gso deal

It sure would walk all over 4870 in average fps. What you are experiencing is with Nvidia cards. Even GTX 280 has issues when smoke effects while ATI cards do not. My frame drops considerably more but not enough to say it's not playable. I have the same issue with a single 8800gts in BF2 when the artillery is blowing smoke effects on my screen. So does Grid when the tires are burning rubber.

Found some on the web....

8800GS in SLI sm2 score 5289
8800ultra sm2 score is 3920
8800GS in SLI SM3 score = 5009
Ultra SM3 score = 3920

http://xa.beareyes.com.cn/2/li...01/28/084/image008.jpg

Now that's an 8800 ultra. About fast as a 4850.. These were run all stock too. 9600gso are overclocking beasts that run 25%+ overclock no problems.

Originally posted by: Schmide
Clarifying, they would run at 1920x1200 fine. Some games would have trouble at said resolution.

These are 768mb cards that would have no trouble at 1920x1200 with AA even for the newest games. your 9600gt sli are 512mb cards and your old GSO you got for $35 were 384mb cards that would start texture thrashing with AA @ 1920x1200. 768mb has no issue at the said resolution.

 

[Morro]

Originally posted by: jlin101
got this card two months ago--the extra RAM doesn't really offer more performance compared to the the 384 MB version. One thing I didn't like PNY's 9600 GSO is that the fan blows toward the front of the case, and is at 100 % all the time without any adjustability.

I had 9600 GT with similar looking cooler. While it was not audible in games and work, it revved really loudly during Windows boot... I hope this one is better. BTW, yesterday I saw PNY 9500GT in Fry's B&M for 40 after rebate. Interesting card if you want CUDA device without aux. PCIe power.

 

[Schmide]

Originally posted by: Azn

Originally posted by: Schmide

Originally posted by: Azn

Originally posted by: Insomniator
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It sure would walk all over 4870 in average fps. What you are experiencing is with Nvidia cards. Even GTX 280 has issues when smoke effects while ATI cards do not. My frame drops considerably more but not enough to say it's not playable. I have the same issue with a single 8800gts in BF2 when the artillery is blowing smoke effects on my screen. So does Grid when the tires are burning rubber.

Found some on the web....

8800GS in SLI sm2 score 5289
8800ultra sm2 score is 3920
8800GS in SLI SM3 score = 5009
Ultra SM3 score = 3920

http://xa.beareyes.com.cn/2/li...01/28/084/image008.jpg

Now that's an 8800 ultra. About fast as a 4850.. These were run all stock too. 9600gso are overclocking beasts that run 25%+ overclock no problems.

Originally posted by: Schmide
Clarifying, they would run at 1920x1200 fine. Some games would have trouble at said resolution.

These are 768mb cards that would have no trouble at 1920x1200 with AA even for the newest games. your 9600gt sli are 512mb cards and your old GSO you got for $35 were 384mb cards that would start texture thrashing with AA @ 1920x1200. 768mb has no issue at the said resolution.

I don't know what you're trying to justify, but simply shown here

Tom's sum of all benchmarks

An 8800gt in sli scores 3467.20 while a 4870 scores 3355.70 and we all know the 8800gs/9600gso(768/384) is a cut down 8800gt, so at most it is on par with a 4870. However, any gamer knows the only thing that matters is the minimal FPS at any time. In SLI/CF the highest frame rate goes up while the extent of the frame drop increases. See thread HF Microstuttering.

As for the memory issue at 1920x1280 it just doesn't add up. For example. If I load up Asylum in COD5 it allocates 53.72 mb of texture memory on high. If you go on to justify the extremes of the rest of the memory possible to use.

Per surface 1920x1200x4 = 9mb assume the maximum 3 frame buffers and a z-buffer to get another 27mb of surfaces.

Vertex and shader data are minimal compared to surface data and I highly doubt they could take up the remaining 303mb on a 384mb card.

Remember I was also running 2 512mb 9600gt(s) and we're comparing this to a 4870 with 512mb that has no problem. It has to be a driver issue. Maybe it's fixed. I don't know.

 

[jlee]

Originally posted by: Morro

Originally posted by: jlin101
got this card two months ago--the extra RAM doesn't really offer more performance compared to the the 384 MB version. One thing I didn't like PNY's 9600 GSO is that the fan blows toward the front of the case, and is at 100 % all the time without any adjustability.

I had 9600 GT with similar looking cooler. While it was not audible in games and work, it revved really loudly during Windows boot... I hope this one is better. BTW, yesterday I saw PNY 9500GT in Fry's B&M for 40 after rebate. Interesting card if you want CUDA device without aux. PCIe power.

I'm pretty sure that's normal- my MSI 9600GT OC did as well...I'm guessing as soon as the graphics drivers loaded, the fan slowed down.

 

[Morro]

Originally posted by: JLee

Originally posted by: Morro

Originally posted by: jlin101
got this card two months ago--the extra RAM doesn't really offer more performance compared to the the 384 MB version. One thing I didn't like PNY's 9600 GSO is that the fan blows toward the front of the case, and is at 100 % all the time without any adjustability.

I had 9600 GT with similar looking cooler. While it was not audible in games and work, it revved really loudly during Windows boot... I hope this one is better. BTW, yesterday I saw PNY 9500GT in Fry's B&M for 40 after rebate. Interesting card if you want CUDA device without aux. PCIe power.

I'm pretty sure that's normal- my MSI 9600GT OC did as well...I'm guessing as soon as the graphics drivers loaded, the fan slowed down.

Yep. Having it on 100% all the time would be not cool.

 

[Spike]

Originally posted by: Morro

Originally posted by: JLee

Originally posted by: Morro

Originally posted by: jlin101
got this card two months ago--the extra RAM doesn't really offer more performance compared to the the 384 MB version. One thing I didn't like PNY's 9600 GSO is that the fan blows toward the front of the case, and is at 100 % all the time without any adjustability.

I had 9600 GT with similar looking cooler. While it was not audible in games and work, it revved really loudly during Windows boot... I hope this one is better. BTW, yesterday I saw PNY 9500GT in Fry's B&M for 40 after rebate. Interesting card if you want CUDA device without aux. PCIe power.

I'm pretty sure that's normal- my MSI 9600GT OC did as well...I'm guessing as soon as the graphics drivers loaded, the fan slowed down.

Yep. Having it on 100% all the time would be not cool.

Actually it would be quite cool 😉

How fast is this compared to the old 9600GSO 384mb eVGA cards they had for $35? I thought I remembered reading the "new" GSO's are not as fast as the "old" ones due to nVidia using a different core or something like that.

 

[VirtualLarry]

384MB/768MB are both 192-bit memory busses, both are therefore the "old" style 9600GSO.

The "new" 9600GSO (48 shader procs) has either 512MB or 1024MB RAM, and 256-bit memory bus.

 

[Spike]

Originally posted by: VirtualLarry
384MB/768MB are both 192-bit memory busses, both are therefore the "old" style 9600GSO.

The "new" 9600GSO (48 shader procs) has either 512MB or 1024MB RAM, and 256-bit memory bus.

Gotcha, thanks for the info. So this one has what, 96 shader procs or something like that?

 

[LukeSmith]

This should make a cheap upgrade from my 7800gt, thx OP!