Plus-size Expedition to match GM Suburban after Excursion goes

[NFS4]

MAKE IT STOP!!!:|:|

http://auto.com/industry/exped9_20020809.htm

 

[Sluggo]

Originally posted by: NFS4
MAKE IT STOP!!!:|:|

http://auto.com/industry/exped9_20020809.htm

This is the exact reason it wont stop :

Full-size sport-utilities can ring up $8,000 profit or more on each sale. In an industry where discounts averaging nearly $2,000 per vehicle are eating up profits, the Detroit automakers would be on life support without their high-margin trucks.

You have high demand vehicles that rake in huge profits, why would anyone stop making them?

 

[d33pt]

i wish i could afford to own an excursion...

 

[Cyberian]

Ford is far from choosing a name for the new vehicle. But an industry analyst who asked not to be named said it might be wise to lose the Excursion name because of the bad publicity it has received.

'Extravaganza' has a nice ring to it.

 

[bunker]

At least they're stopping somewhere!

said Ford had ruled out only one thing: It will not build a Lincoln luxury version of the new jumbo sport-utility, despite GM's plan to sell its 2003 Cadillac Escalade ESV by January.

 

[PsychoAndy]

Originally posted by: Sluggo

Originally posted by: NFS4
MAKE IT STOP!!!:|:|

http://auto.com/industry/exped9_20020809.htm

This is the exact reason it wont stop :

Full-size sport-utilities can ring up $8,000 profit or more on each sale. In an industry where discounts averaging nearly $2,000 per vehicle are eating up profits, the Detroit automakers would be on life support without their high-margin trucks.

You have high demand vehicles that rake in huge profits, why would anyone stop making them?

I dont recall the link, but Ford was rumored to make well over $5,000 per excursion sale. If thats the case, they could have put their PSD under the hood as standard equipment, instead of the $4,000 option and shut the sierra club up with 18-20 MPG.

But noooo. They have to suffer from a rectal cranial inversion and stick with a V-10.

-PAB

 

[Sluggo]

Originally posted by: PsychoAndy

Originally posted by: Sluggo

Originally posted by: NFS4
MAKE IT STOP!!!:|:|

http://auto.com/industry/exped9_20020809.htm

This is the exact reason it wont stop :

Full-size sport-utilities can ring up $8,000 profit or more on each sale. In an industry where discounts averaging nearly $2,000 per vehicle are eating up profits, the Detroit automakers would be on life support without their high-margin trucks.

You have high demand vehicles that rake in huge profits, why would anyone stop making them?

I dont recall the link, but Ford was rumored to make well over $5,000 per excursion sale. If thats the case, they could have put their PSD under the hood as standard equipment, instead of the $4,000 option and shut the sierra club up with 18-20 MPG.

But noooo. They have to suffer from a rectal cranial inversion and stick with a V-10.

-PAB

I heard (of course that in no way makes it true) that Ford made 10k on each and every Excursion that rolled off the line. Even though the diesel was an option, I thought that most Excursions actually sold with the PSD not the V-10.

 

[RU482]

I'd love to have an excursion. I'd put a lift and some big ole mudders on it and tear up some lawns in my neighborhood.




Thats all I would use it for

 

[PsychoAndy]

Originally posted by: Sluggo

Originally posted by: PsychoAndy

Originally posted by: Sluggo

Originally posted by: NFS4
MAKE IT STOP!!!:|:|

http://auto.com/industry/exped9_20020809.htm

This is the exact reason it wont stop :

Full-size sport-utilities can ring up $8,000 profit or more on each sale. In an industry where discounts averaging nearly $2,000 per vehicle are eating up profits, the Detroit automakers would be on life support without their high-margin trucks.

You have high demand vehicles that rake in huge profits, why would anyone stop making them?

I dont recall the link, but Ford was rumored to make well over $5,000 per excursion sale. If thats the case, they could have put their PSD under the hood as standard equipment, instead of the $4,000 option and shut the sierra club up with 18-20 MPG.

But noooo. They have to suffer from a rectal cranial inversion and stick with a V-10.

-PAB

I heard (of course that in no way makes it true) that Ford made 10k on each and every Excursion that rolled off the line. Even though the diesel was an option, I thought that most Excursions actually sold with the PSD not the V-10.

Theres a lot of people who cannot justify spending $4k up front to effectively cut their fuel consumption in half. I'm not sure where or if there is a database out there, but I am fairly confident a majority of sales would be gas powerplants. Think of it in economic terms, particularly the price effect. Its always going to be easier to sell at $40,000 truck than a $44,000 truck.

-PAB

 

[Sluggo]

Originally posted by: PsychoAndy

Originally posted by: Sluggo

Originally posted by: PsychoAndy

Originally posted by: Sluggo

Originally posted by: NFS4
MAKE IT STOP!!!:|:|

http://auto.com/industry/exped9_20020809.htm

This is the exact reason it wont stop :

Full-size sport-utilities can ring up $8,000 profit or more on each sale. In an industry where discounts averaging nearly $2,000 per vehicle are eating up profits, the Detroit automakers would be on life support without their high-margin trucks.

You have high demand vehicles that rake in huge profits, why would anyone stop making them?

I dont recall the link, but Ford was rumored to make well over $5,000 per excursion sale. If thats the case, they could have put their PSD under the hood as standard equipment, instead of the $4,000 option and shut the sierra club up with 18-20 MPG.

But noooo. They have to suffer from a rectal cranial inversion and stick with a V-10.

-PAB

I heard (of course that in no way makes it true) that Ford made 10k on each and every Excursion that rolled off the line. Even though the diesel was an option, I thought that most Excursions actually sold with the PSD not the V-10.

Theres a lot of people who cannot justify spending $4k up front to effectively cut their fuel consumption in half. I'm not sure where or if there is a database out there, but I am fairly confident a majority of sales would be gas powerplants. Think of it in economic terms, particularly the price effect. Its always going to be easier to sell at $40,000 truck than a $44,000 truck.

-PAB

Guess you were correct, I found this :

The base engine on two-wheel-drive models is the 5.4-liter V-8, here delivering 255 bhp and 350 pound-feet of torque. Most Excursions will be powered by the 6.8-liter V-10, with 310 bhp and 425 pound-feet of torque. It's standard on 4x4s and optional on 4x2s. Of course, no big-truck engine lineup would be complete without a turbo-diesel, and Ford will offer its 7.3-liter Power Stroke diesel, making 235 horsepower and a ground-shaking 500 pound-fee of torque. Ford expects fully twenty percent of buyers to choose the diesel, despite having to pay more than $4000 for it.

 

[StattlichPassat]

Originally posted by: NFS4
MAKE IT STOP!!!:|:|

http://auto.com/industry/exped9_20020809.htm

I TOLD YOU SO!! I TOLD YOU SO!! This is exactly what I predicted in the Excursion death thread.

 

[StattlichPassat]

Originally posted by: Cyberian

Ford is far from choosing a name for the new vehicle. But an industry analyst who asked not to be named said it might be wise to lose the Excursion name because of the bad publicity it has received.

'Extravaganza' has a nice ring to it.

How about Excavation?

 

[PsychoAndy]

Originally posted by: Sluggo

Originally posted by: PsychoAndy

Originally posted by: Sluggo

Originally posted by: PsychoAndy

Originally posted by: Sluggo

Originally posted by: NFS4
MAKE IT STOP!!!:|:|

http://auto.com/industry/exped9_20020809.htm

This is the exact reason it wont stop :

Full-size sport-utilities can ring up $8,000 profit or more on each sale. In an industry where discounts averaging nearly $2,000 per vehicle are eating up profits, the Detroit automakers would be on life support without their high-margin trucks.

You have high demand vehicles that rake in huge profits, why would anyone stop making them?

I dont recall the link, but Ford was rumored to make well over $5,000 per excursion sale. If thats the case, they could have put their PSD under the hood as standard equipment, instead of the $4,000 option and shut the sierra club up with 18-20 MPG.

But noooo. They have to suffer from a rectal cranial inversion and stick with a V-10.

-PAB

I heard (of course that in no way makes it true) that Ford made 10k on each and every Excursion that rolled off the line. Even though the diesel was an option, I thought that most Excursions actually sold with the PSD not the V-10.

Theres a lot of people who cannot justify spending $4k up front to effectively cut their fuel consumption in half. I'm not sure where or if there is a database out there, but I am fairly confident a majority of sales would be gas powerplants. Think of it in economic terms, particularly the price effect. Its always going to be easier to sell at $40,000 truck than a $44,000 truck.

-PAB

Guess you were correct, I found this :

The base engine on two-wheel-drive models is the 5.4-liter V-8, here delivering 255 bhp and 350 pound-feet of torque. Most Excursions will be powered by the 6.8-liter V-10, with 310 bhp and 425 pound-feet of torque. It's standard on 4x4s and optional on 4x2s. Of course, no big-truck engine lineup would be complete without a turbo-diesel, and Ford will offer its 7.3-liter Power Stroke diesel, making 235 horsepower and a ground-shaking 500 pound-fee of torque. Ford expects fully twenty percent of buyers to choose the diesel, despite having to pay more than $4000 for it.

Exactly. The advantages of diesel fuel in motor vehicles is obvious. Increased MPG from a higher energy density. If we could only get low or no sulfur fuel in this country at a fair price and with widespread availability it would rock.

I would buy an Excursion if my needs warranted, but HELL would have to freeze over, Red Dawn would have to vote Rebublican, and RossMAN would have to be to be out of debt for me to get the V-10.

I wish a large majority of passenger cars and more light-medium duty trucks had a diesel or a turbodisel, so OPEC can get s swift kick in the nuts.

-PAB