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Pls lock.

J

jalaram

Lifer
Someone I know is selling her car and listed it on AutoTrader.com. She got a response and wasn't sure if it might be a scam or not. It doesn't feel right, but I have no experience in this case. How could she protect herself just in case?

Thanks,
JC

>----
What do you think of this? I've learned that sometimes these type of
deals can be fake...can you help?

-N

-----Original Message-----
From: xxxxxx [mailto:xxxxxx@jojomail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2003 8:11 AM
To: yyyyyy
Subject: payment and shipping procedure $12,000!!!



Hello,
Thanks for the information of the Acura , the price and condition of the
car is okay by my client and ready to purchase asap, i will offer you
$12,000 (U.S DOLLARS) and i will need the recent picture so that i can
know what i am actually purchasing,i want you to delete the ad from the
website, i have a reputable shipper in london that will take care of
shipping from your end and i want to let you know i have an associate in
the state that is oweing me a sum of $24,700 i will instruct him to
issue you a certified cashier's cheque on my behalf for that amount and
as soon as cheque arrives, you hold out your amount and send the
difference to my shipper in the U.K for the pick up in your location, i
hope i can trust you with my balance and also you will be contacting my
shipper with all neccesary information needed for pick up in your place
i.e the actual weight and exact dimension of the car. if this terms are
okay by you, do get back to me with the following details like this :-
Home Address...
Full Name on cheque...
State...
Zipcode...
Country...
Telephone Number...
Mobilephone number...
Fax Number...
Do get back to me asap with this details for payment to be made out to
you immediately. Waiting to hearing from you xxxxx.





----- Original Message -----
From: yyyyyyy
Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2003 10:38:25 -0600
To: xxxxxxx@jojomail.com>
Subject: FW: AutoTrader.com: Vehicle Lead

> Thank you for your interest. The vehicle is in good condition w/ one
> small dent on the right side of the trunk. Minimum price I would like

> to get is $12,000. Let me know. Thank you.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: dealerleads@autotrader.com [mailto😀ealerleads@autotrader.com]
> Sent: Monday, November 10, 2003 9:32 AM
> To: yyyyyyy
> Subject: AutoTrader.com: Vehicle Lead
>
>
> ***VEHICLE LEAD***
>
> The following lead was generated from AutoTrader.com's web site at
> http://www.autotrader.com.
>
> VEHICLE INFORMATION
> Make: Acura
> Model: Integra
> Year: [del]
> Price: [del]
> Mileage: [del]
> Body Style: Sedan
> Color: Silver
> Cylinders: 4 Cylinder
> Transmission: Automatic
> Doors: Four Door
> Stereo: Unavailable
> Description: This is a MUST SELL car. In great shape w/ all tires
> brand new (Dec '02 purchase). Make offer!
>
> Call yyyyyyy
>
> BUYER INFO
> Name: xxxxxxxx
> E-Mail Address: xxxxxx@jojomail.com
> Comments: My name is xxxxxxxx, i am an auto dealer from
> [deleted] I have a client interested in buying your car. i
> will like to know your final offering price and the Current
> condition. please email me at your earliest
> convenience.
>----
 
My red flags went up, but I couldn't explain why. What was the biggest red flag you saw? (I apologize for being naive).
 
Originally posted by: jalaram
My red flags went up, but I couldn't explain why. What was the biggest red flag you saw? (I apologize for being naive).
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WTH DUDE?!?! THE WHOLE E-MAIL IS A GIANT RED FLAG!
 
the only possible way i see this to be a scam is that
they guy is selling something on ebay and the buyer (which is the guy he say that own him money) will sent you payment thinking you are the seller
it'll be hell to pay later for you, if this turn out to be the case.
you'll be out of a car and have to refund the money.
if you sent rest of balance to him, and you'll be taking out the money off your pocket.
 
Originally posted by: jalaram
My red flags went up, but I couldn't explain why. What was the biggest red flag you saw? (I apologize for being naive).
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First and foremost is someone paying her a large sum of money, more than the car is worth, and asking her to refund the difference. This is a classic scammer move. The person cashes the check, does the deal, and then the check bounces. The other party has the item, the extra money, and the seller owes the bank a large sum of cash.

Never, ever fall for something like this.

Ryan
 
12,000 + 24,700 = $36,700 for an Acura Integra. I don't know about you but that should raise some red flags already. Ever heard of the phrase if it's too good to be true....





-Jimbo
 
Do people just live under rocks these days?

This scam has been on the local and national news, probably in every newspaper more than 2 pages long, on the radio and all over the internet for about 6+ years.
 
Ok. Enough with the insults please. 😱 🙂 I'll try to be more vigilant in the future. Thanks for the help.

Can I get this locked. please before others get their comments in. 😀

 
As said before, the cashier's check is going to be a fake, so you (your friend) would be screwed.
Don't be stupid. Think.
 
Originally posted by: jalaram
Ok. Enough with the insults please. 😱 🙂 I'll try to be more vigilant in the future. Thanks for the help.

Can I get this locked. please before others get their comments in. 😀
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No lock, we arent done yet. 😉
 
Originally posted by: Sluggo
Originally posted by: jalaram
Ok. Enough with the insults please. 😱 🙂 I'll try to be more vigilant in the future. Thanks for the help.

Can I get this locked. please before others get their comments in. 😀
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No lock, we arent done yet. 😉
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ya im in now so dont lock yet :/ i wanna see more hehe.

gl
 
Originally posted by: jimmygates
12,000 + 24,700 = $36,700 for an Acura Integra. I don't know about you but that should raise some red flags already. Ever heard of the phrase if it's too good to be true....





-Jimbo
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I think the alleged offer is actually $12,000 to be deducted from the $24,700 that the scammer says he will send.

 
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