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Until we "deprogram" these muslim fundamentalists, christian fundies, zionist fundies these problems won't go away. That is the only solution, we can't just bomb their training camps and arrest their mullahs


Uhhh, ok. I only see one of those three getting on planes and bombing themselves and others.

Don't allow your irrational fear of non-hate preaching religions to bunch them all together in a silly lump of intolerance.

On topic...

Kudos to MI5 and the Brits. STFD terrorists, just STFD.
 
Originally posted by: Sheik Yerbouti
Originally posted by: zendari
Good thing he was caught. Excellent job with new techniques by the Bush administration.

Weren't they caught in the UK? By Scotland Yard, et al?
dumbya isn't concerned about catching terrorists, just using them to "catapult the propaganda"

They are our allies in the War on Terror.
 
Originally posted by: DAPUNISHER
but the bible has the same type of shat in it.

Please enlighten me as to where in the Bible it tells Christians to kill anyone who doesn't convert?

Until then, do the world a favor and stop talking about things you obviously know nothing about. Keep to facts, then you might be seen as a credible individual. Spreading misinformation isn't helpful

 
Riddle me this...let's say you're a terrorist trying to blow up planes in the US. You recognize that security in the US is pretty tight so you want to get on an international flight and come into the country that way. Why the F would start your flight in the UK? It seems to me like they would have been much better off flying in from Mexico, Jamaica or something like that.
 
Originally posted by: Modular
Originally posted by: DAPUNISHER
but the bible has the same type of shat in it.

Please enlighten me as to where in the Bible it tells Christians to kill anyone who doesn't convert?

Until then, do the world a favor and stop talking about things you obviously know nothing about. Keep to facts, then you might be seen as a credible individual. Spreading misinformation isn't helpful
You are in no position to dictate the terms of the debate, so stop trying 😉 You also are attaching a particular statement to my comments that I never made. What I said is in no way misinformation since I did not specify the exact nature of the material, Mr. thin skinned. If you are demanding I cite passages with some very radical content, I'll just refer you to the handy search feature for the forums, as I don't do secretarial work or respond well to demands 🙂
 
Many kudos and thanks to the British counter terrorism efforts. :thumbsup:

Aside from the valuable innocent lives that they apparently just protected, they also saved us from another lame 9/11-like pre-election movie.
 
Originally posted by: SoulAssassin
Riddle me this...let's say you're a terrorist trying to blow up planes in the US. You recognize that security in the US is pretty tight so you want to get on an international flight and come into the country that way. Why the F would start your flight in the UK? It seems to me like they would have been much better off flying in from Mexico, Jamaica or something like that.

Simple. The perpetrators were citizens of the UK.
 
Originally posted by: CaptnKirk
Originally posted by: DAPUNISHER

Mr. thin skinned. 🙂


Shouldn't that be 'Dr. Thin Skinned, PHD' ?
AS long as he isn't a skinhead, it's all good 🙂


Originally posted by: jjsole
Many kudos and thanks to the British counter terrorism efforts. :thumbsup:
What I should of said, since it is on topic and right on.
 
Originally posted by: Whoozyerdaddy
This story will dvelop over night.

Wow... scary as hell...

Youre such a tool for this admin its scary as hell. They "thwarted a plot." I thought DumbYa was tired of swatting at files? :roll:
 
There is more info & credibility to this action than there has been to ALL the 'terrorism has been thwarted" garbage that has come out of the US in the past 3 years.

I'm going to guess that these guys didn't get their money and plans from the British Intel agency...aka the Miami crap.

 
my girlfriend is scheduled to return back to the U.S from Europe. I believe Air France next week.

If they did anything.. I would dedicate my life to building a nuclear bomb and placing it in the heart of Taliban country. Go on.. give me the roll eye face .. cause like I can really build a nuclear bomb, right?
 
Originally posted by: dwell
Waits for the liberals to jump in and claim it's time to keep people scared in time for November elections.

Walks like a duck? Quacks like a duck? Could it be a duck?
 
Originally posted by: DAPUNISHER
Originally posted by: SamurAchzar
I know you're probably living by the notion that all people are alike and religions must be respected, but that just doesn't hold true with Islam.
Now that's not right. There are Christian fundies bombing abortion clinics, cults the spin off of Christianity, ect. My next door neighbors are Egyptian Musslims, and the nicest folks you could ever meet. When discussing things with the mother, she always talks about how Islam teaches love and to accept Christians and Jews as children of the same god. She knew about Noah and Moses and Jesus, and said they are all rightous cats as far as she is concerned.

Just because some radical A-holes use Islam as their front, doesn't mean the religion is whacked. Yeah, I've seen the quotes here that make it look pretty drastic, but the bible has the same type of shat in it. Good people who follow both religions don't seem to embrace that part though, it is just those who would subvert the religion for their own manipulative purposes that do.

You're right, obviously, the problem is that while both Christianity and Judism as well as other religions, have scholarly advanced beyond the point of violence - i.e. no one calls for crusades for many thousand years now - and accepted their role to accompany the modern way of life, and not replace it, Islam is now just beginning the process, which took many hundreds of years.

Until you'll see the heads of Islam accepting the existance of other religions and calling for peace, freedom and democracy, it can't be treated in the same way other religions are.

I wonder how long will it take before the entire world starts double checking Arabs on flights like Israel have been doing for years (and receiving complaints about it). Seems like it could spare hundreds, if not thousand of lives.


 
Originally posted by: homercles337
Youre such a tool for this admin its scary as hell. They "thwarted a plot." I thought DumbYa was tired of swatting at files? :roll:

And what say you, that this was never a "real" threat?

Sticking your head in the sand and sucking wind while threats materialize seems to be a common value around here.
 
Can someone please call me next time Christian fundamentalists suicide bomb abortion clinics repeatedly every day for three years straight?
 
Originally posted by: Aimster
my girlfriend is scheduled to return back to the U.S from Europe. I believe Air France next week.

If they did anything.. I would dedicate my life to building a nuclear bomb and placing it in the heart of Taliban country. Go on.. give me the roll eye face .. cause like I can really build a nuclear bomb, right?

1970's Popular Mechanics had plans for three different A-bombs. One was a simple tube design. There is enough missing nuclear material in the USA to build 30 to 50 medium bombs. Which Taliban country are you going to choose. Pakistan or Saudi Arabia? Both are our supposed allies?
 
Can someone please call me next time Christian fundamentalists suicide bomb abortion clinics repeatedly every day for three years straight?


Weak. Could you show us where any other group has 'suicide bombed anything every day for three years straight'? Your pitiful exaggerations are noted and dismissed.

Simple parallels for simple minds I suppose...so here's an easy one for you to chew upon: the actual methods of violence matter little when people are doing it in the name of religion. Savvy? The christian zealot willing to murder for his cause is the same kind of @sshole as a rat poison-ladden muslim time-bomb willing to kill for his. Does the occurance of suicide in one example really make it that difficult to understand? 😕

 
As a worker at London's Heathrow Airport, today has been quite challenging.

Security is extremely tight and unfortuantely this has had a major impact on the travel plans of everyone flying into and out of the UK.

It's good that the plot was foiled by the authorities but unfortunately the authorities have little regard it seems to business and the impact their actions have on those law abiding citizens trying to get on with their lives.
Surely a more measured response, rather than the sudden step change in security policy would have been just as effective. And also I fail to see what security implication my sandwiches for lunch had on the wellbeing of the United Kingdom!


 
When they wage war upon us, we MUST wage war upon them else we permit them to have their way with us. They will not change their ideology until the violence they start is returned to them ten fold and ruins them.

It is preached on their TV, taught in their schools, they are told it is god?s will. Those striving to kill us are not something you?re going to appease away. They see compromise as weakness, as opportunity to make things worse. Israel pulled out of Lebanon in 2000, Hezbollah moved back in to prepare and start the current war.

Such a foolish notions as ?Peace for our time ? while in the middle of a buildup to a greater war is only going to serve their interests. The more time they are allowed, they more effective methods of slaughtering us they will devise.

With North Korea, we showed the Islamic world that we are blackmailed by mere nuclear technology. Now they are on the verge of doing the same, only the notion of mutual assured destruction is perfectly fine with Islamic Fascists.

So we here have choices to make. We can burry our heads in the sand, ?It?s not our problem?, somehow imagining borders protect us from an ideology when we in fact do not have borders. We can play to their interests and make a little temporary peace before we die, or we can recognize the treat.

Perhaps we first need to recognize that we aren?t the sole evil who needs to be defeated. We hear a lot in P&N how it?s all us doing wrongs to the world. From those same people we only hear laughing and mockery of events when we are threatened. Heck, more over we still hear from the greatest loons that it still remains all our doing ? the inside job through and through.

The details of our response to terrorism I leave to other times, because I know we?ve screwed it up nine times out of ten and it?s a subject of far reaching debate. I merely wish to imprint with you the need TO respond. Instead of sitting here mocking ourselves, blaming ourselves, and leading ourselves to death and defeat.
 
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