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conjur

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Four Children Killed in Baghdad Explosion
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A36431-2005Apr8.html
BAGHDAD -- Four children collecting trash were killed Friday by a homemade bomb in Baghdad, and masked gunmen killed an Iraqi Army officer in a restaurant in the southern city of Basra, police said.

The children died in the New Baghdad neighborhood in the southeast section of the city, police Capt. Sabah Hamid Al-Fartosi said. Insurgents frequently use hidden roadside bombs against U.S. and Iraqi Army convoys.

In the attack in Basra, three masked gunmen killed an Iraqi Army officer -- Maj. Mahmoud Hassan Yassiri -- late Thursday, Capt. Firas Timimi of the Iraqi Army said.

A U.S. Marine was killed Wednesday in a vehicle accident during combat operations in Fallujah, 40 miles west of Baghdad, the military said Friday in a statement.

Also Friday, police in Kirkuk, about 180 miles north of Baghdad, said one driver was killed in an attack that set several Turkish oil tankers ablaze the previous night. Six others were wounded.
Just keeps getting better. Children collecting trash?? WTF? I thought things were great over there!

And things were so violent under Saddam. Just SO much better now. :roll:
 

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Originally posted by: conjur
Four Children Killed in Baghdad Explosion
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A36431-2005Apr8.html
BAGHDAD -- Four children collecting trash were killed Friday by a homemade bomb in Baghdad, and masked gunmen killed an Iraqi Army officer in a restaurant in the southern city of Basra, police said.

The children died in the New Baghdad neighborhood in the southeast section of the city, police Capt. Sabah Hamid Al-Fartosi said. Insurgents frequently use hidden roadside bombs against U.S. and Iraqi Army convoys.

In the attack in Basra, three masked gunmen killed an Iraqi Army officer -- Maj. Mahmoud Hassan Yassiri -- late Thursday, Capt. Firas Timimi of the Iraqi Army said.

A U.S. Marine was killed Wednesday in a vehicle accident during combat operations in Fallujah, 40 miles west of Baghdad, the military said Friday in a statement.

Also Friday, police in Kirkuk, about 180 miles north of Baghdad, said one driver was killed in an attack that set several Turkish oil tankers ablaze the previous night. Six others were wounded.
Just keeps getting better. Children collecting trash?? WTF? I thought things were great over there!

And things were so violent under Saddam. Just SO much better now. :roll:

Meet the new boss
Same as the old boss

More trouble ahead after the Kurds consolidate power.

Shiite Arab leader al-Jaafari chosen as Iraq PM

The solemnity of the moment was marred when the new Iraqi President, Jalal Talabani, mysteriously left the ceremony. When he re-emerged he explained that he had momentarily forgotten the name of the new prime minister whom he was appointing.

Mr Jaafari, the mild-mannered leader of the Islamic Dawa party, did not look disturbed by Mr Talabani?s sudden memory loss. But other members of the United Iraqi Alliance, the Shiite coalition which won a majority in the 275-member parliament in the election on 30 January, saw it as a possible ill-omen for future relations between Kurds and Shiah.


 

BBond

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Originally posted by: cwjerome
WHAT! You mean to tell me that through an occupation, transition, and formation of a new nation there's been trouble afoot?? Sweet Jesus... that's a shocker! And for a second I thought everything was supposed to be peaches and cream :roll:

Congratulations. As Iraq is slowly transformed, as the Middle East is slowly transformed, and as the world moves into a better condition, you will have succeeded in fully bitching and whining about every speck of possible "problem" every step of the way... just like you predecessors did during the 80s with Reagan's actions towards the Soviets. No wonder the Liberal hawks left the Dems. History is written with broad strokes, not with your petty contrivances. You're a one-way back-alley into despair, shamelessly nit-picking Bush and his actions solely for political points, but guess what? You lost this game a long time ago and didn't even realize it :) Take a hint from your ideological ally: MoveOn baby!

Stop the re-write. You're cleansing history. Iraq was invaded because the arms they didn't have posed a threat to mankind.

Do you people really believe that the world doesn't recognize what you've done?

Read an account from someone who was there. ;)

"We've got to do a lot less crowing about the sunrise," Clark rejoined.

 

conjur

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Restaurants hurting from empty tables
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=s...oday/restaurantshurtingfromemptytables
"I used to stay open until 3 a.m. under Saddam," Aude says. "Now, I have to close at 8 p.m. because of the bad security situation."

Lattikiya still does a good midday trade. The place is full at lunch, but the number of customers drops as the sun sets and dinner approaches.

Many other eateries around the capital are struggling. Menu prices are bargains by Western standards - most traditional dinners go for about $5 - but they are unaffordable for most Iraqis. Only people working in the new government and merchants selling consumer goods can afford to dine out.

? A couple blocks from Lattikiya is Ramaya, a once-fashionable hangout with a French wine list and European cuisine. It is now being converted into an electronics sales office.

? Dragon Bay, a Chinese restaurant, used to serve tall, cold cans of beer to patrons in a private room equipped with a karaoke machine. Now, Dragon Bay has moved to smaller digs, its trademark red lanterns discreetly doused.

? The popular restaurant Candles closed four months ago. Elsewhere, a well-known wedding hall that served alcohol and snacks and featured live music was recently burned.

Conservative Muslim clerics preach in favor of stricter social mores and warn against alcohol consumption. Liquor stores in Baghdad and the southern city of Basra have been bombed.

Lattikiya never served liquor. Its owners are strict Muslims.

Other restaurateurs abruptly closed the spigot.
Like we've been saying for months and as Sen. Kerry said, running the war on the cheap (well, running it all was a major-league fvck-up) with the bare minimum of troops left Iraq in very precarious shape and it's not going to get better any time soon.
 

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Does anyone think Bush will get the message? The Shiite majority controlling government (read: Grand Ayatollah Ali al Sistani) in Bush's "New Iraq?" doesn't want him or his "liberators" there.

Bush may have fooled America but in Iraq Bush hasn't fooled anyone. They recognize a tyrant when they see one, whether it's the U.S bakced variety -- Saddam -- or a genuine U.S. tyrant -- Bush.

Thousands protest U.S. on Baghdad anniversary

Demonstrators demand end to presence of foreign troops
The Associated Press
Updated: 6:06 a.m. ET April 9, 2005

BAGHDAD, Iraq - Tens of thousands of Shiites marked the anniversary of the fall of Baghdad with a protest against American troops at the same square where jubilant crowds toppled a statue of Saddam Hussein two years ago.

The protesters back radical Shiite cleric Muqtada al-Sadr, whose Mahdi Army militiamen led uprisings last year against U.S. troops before signing truces with U.S.-led forces.

Held in the shadow of the Sheraton and Palestine hotels ? home to foreign journalists and contractors ? the protest reflected frustration both with the U.S. government, which is slowly handing security responsibilities to Iraqi forces, and anger toward the Sunni Arab-led insurgency.

?This huge gathering shows that the Iraqi people have the strength and faith to protect their country and liberate it from the occupiers,? said protester Ahmed Abed, a 26-year-old who sells spare car parts.

U.S. officials have said they won?t set a timetable for withdrawal, promising to stay until Iraqi forces are able to secure the country.

Protesters focus ire on Bush, Blair
The protesters filled Firdos Square and spilled onto nearby avenues, waving Iraqi flags. Mimicking the famous images of U.S. soldiers and Iraqis pulling down a statue of Saddam as Baghdad fell, protesters toppled effigies of President Bush, British Prime Minister Tony Blair and Saddam ? all dressed in red Iraqi prison jumpsuits that signified they had been condemned to death.

Other effigies of Bush and Saddam were burned.

?Force the occupation to leave from our country,? one banner read in English.

Protesters also called for Saddam to face justice and held up framed photos of Grand Ayatollah Ali al-Sistani, Iraq?s most influential Shiite cleric, a spiritual leader to the Shiite population of roughly 60 percent of Iraq?s 26 million people.

Demonstrators carried a symbolic coffin, draped with an Iraqi flag, and swung from a statue said to represent freedom and constructed on the pedestal where Saddam?s statue once stood. Robed and turbaned Shiite clerics were seen among the crowd.

No violence was reported, although late Friday a senior al-Sadr official who had arrived from Karbala to take part in the protest was gunned down in the New Baghdad neighborhood. Fadhil al-Shawky died in the attack on his car. Two others were wounded.

U.S. and Iraqi security forces kept a close eye on the march, with U.S. soldiers standing behind blast walls topped with barbed wire and armed soldiers watching from rooftops.

Returning to center stage
Al-Sadr had stayed out of the limelight since leading failed uprisings last year in the southern city of Najaf and in Baghdad?s Sadr City neighborhood.

But he has stepped up criticism of the United States in recent weeks, mainly by organizing Saturday?s protest, which fell far short of the 1 million people he hoped would assemble.

Officials organized the demonstration with the Iraqi Interior Ministry?s promise of protection. A group of protesters and police spent all night securing the square. Roads in central Baghdad were closed to traffic as streets filled with people.

Sunni Muslim clerics also called on their followers to protest on the two year anniversary of the fall of Baghdad, but officials in the influential Association of Muslim Scholars refused to say Saturday where or when the protests would take place. Iraq?s Sunni minority was dominant under Saddam and is believed to make up the backbone of the country?s insurgency.

Jalil al-Shemari, a senior al-Sadr official, said the Sunnis would not be joining in the Shiite rally at Firdos Square.

During his Friday morning sermon in the capital, the head of an influential Sunni group accused coalition forces of ?killing the Iraqi people daily.?

?We demand that the occupation troops withdraw from Iraq. We don?t want them to do it immediately, but we want them to set a timetable for their withdrawal,? said Sheik Harith al-Dahri, whose Association of Muslim Scholars is believed to have ties to Iraq?s insurgents.

Other marches were held across the country to demand that the United States set a timetable for its withdrawal. In the central city of Ramadi, thousands of protestors demonstrated in the al-Sufayaa neighborhood and at Anbar University, demanding that U.S.-led coalition forces set a withdrawal date.

Also Saturday, in the troubled northern city of Mosul, a car bomb detonated near a police patrol, killing at least two policemen and injuring 13 civilians, Dr. Baha al-Deen al-Bakry of the Jumhouri hospital said.
 

Acanthus

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Conjur, you have officially made yourself a joke on these forums in my eyes.

Posting nothing but bad news BLATENTLY shows your incredible bias, and your lack of reasoning to even limit it. Anyone on the fence about this issue is going to say "wtf" to your attempt and dissuading opinions.

I certainly wont open this thread again.

No one, at any point, said the troops were safe. Its a warzone.
 

Acanthus

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Originally posted by: conjur
I've seen exile.ru before. Seems a bit whacky.

Dahr Jamail, otoh:

http://dahrjamailiraq.com/weblog/archives/interviews/000229.php#more
ER-MEANWHILE, ONE of the things missing from the U.S. media is reporting on the increasingly frequent bombing of Iraq by the U.S.

DJ-THAT?S A very important point. It definitely is one of the most underreported things in Iraq. Daily, there are many, many air missions being flown, and huge amounts of bombs being dropped. In fact, the vast majority of Iraqi civilians killed have died as a result of U.S. warplanes dropping bombs.

For example, in Falluja, it?s pretty safe to say that a large percentage of the estimated 3,000 people killed there were killed by U.S. warplanes. I can?t tell you how many reports I heard from refugees discussing how entire houses, entire blocks of houses, were bombed to the ground by U.S. warplanes. Even to this day, bodies lay under the rubble of houses because of this.

This is without a doubt the leading cause of the civilian casualties. They think that they?re bombing fighters, and they think that by doing this, they?re sending a message that if you continue to resist the occupation, you will be bombed, and anyone around you will be bombed.

It?s a form of collective punishment, and it is definitely intended to send a clear message that if you mess with the U.S. military, you and anyone around you is going to be blown out of existence. More often than not, it?s the case that when these bombs drop, it?s civilians who are caught in them, not the fighters.

For example, several people reported to me that the way the U.S. military was getting its intelligence on where to bomb in Falluja prior to the siege of the city in November was that any Iraqi could literally go up to the U.S. base outside of Falluja and say, ?Yes, in this house, there?s a fighter.? They were paid between $100 and $500, and then that house was bombed. So this was a method that many people used to settle old scores and make some cash.

On the flip side, of course, sometimes, they were right. Sometimes, there were fighters there, and they would be killed. But more often than not, as you can imagine, that wasn?t the case.

And there's this:
USS Carl Vinson F/A-18s Strike Insurgents in Iraq
http://www.news.navy.mil/search/display.asp?story_id=17818
ABOARD USS CARL VINSON, At sea (NNS) -- Strike fighter aircraft from Carrier Air Wing (CVW) 9, flying from the nuclear-powered aircraft carrier USS Carl Vinson (CVN 70) in the Persian Gulf, attacked an enemy insurgent location east of Baghdad, Iraq, April 4.

F/A-18 Hornets from Strike Fighter Squadrons (VFA) 154 and 147 dropped two 500-pound laser-guided bombs, striking the enemy position in support of Iraqi and coalition forces."

Shock and awe wasn't enough?

You have to be simply retarded to try to put that kind of spin on it.

We cant send troops there, or one might get a beesting and youll plaster it everywhere. So when we bomb the site after verifying the target, its OMG WHY ARE WE BOMBING THEM!?!?! youre really something else :p
 

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Originally posted by: Acanthus
Conjur, you have officially made yourself a joke on these forums in my eyes.

Posting nothing but bad news BLATENTLY shows your incredible bias, and your lack of reasoning to even limit it. Anyone on the fence about this issue is going to say "wtf" to your attempt and dissuading opinions.

I certainly wont open this thread again.

No one, at any point, said the troops were safe. Its a warzone.

First they want all the bad news about Iraq -- and there is PLENTY -- segragated into one thread. Then they want to censor that thread.

Don't open the thread again. It's a fitting parody on your state of consciousness. Ignore the facts and concentrate on the happy talk. :)

The party line.

Don't worry. Be happy.

:)

:confused:

 

conjur

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Originally posted by: Acanthus
Conjur, you have officially made yourself a joke on these forums in my eyes.
I'm so distraught now. Whatever will I do?

Posting nothing but bad news BLATENTLY shows your incredible bias, and your lack of reasoning to even limit it.
The MSM sure isn't getting the point across very well is it?
Anyone on the fence about this issue is going to say "wtf" to your attempt and dissuading opinions.
<yawn>

I certainly wont open this thread again.
Yay!

No one, at any point, said the troops were safe. Its a warzone.
Mission Accomplished, rigiht? It's not a warzone any more.
 

conjur

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Suicide blasts hit US Iraq base
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/4432009.stm
At least two suicide car bombs have exploded at the entrance to a US military base in Qaim, western Iraq.

The blasts caused several casualties, but it is not know how many were American or Iraqi troops, or civilians.

The first blast came after a car rammed a checkpoint outside the base but failed to breach its defences.

Qaim, near the border with Syria, has been the scene of frequent violence and is used for smuggling insurgents and weapons into Iraqi, the US believes.

US helicopters flew over the base after the attack and heavy exchanges of gunfire were heard as insurgents clashed with troops.
Why aren't Iraqis completely manning the checkpoints now?
 

BBond

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Is this any way to run a democracy?

How can Bush ever hope to instill democratic values elsewhere when he has none to begin with?

What's Bush hiding?

The true cost of his lies.

US 'smuggles wounded troops home' under cover of darkness

By Andrew Buncombe in Washington

10 April 2005

The Pentagon has been accused of smuggling wounded soldiers into the US under cover of darkness to avoid bad publicity about the number of troops being injured and maimed in Iraq. The media have also been prevented from photographing wounded soldiers when they arrive at hospital.

Records show that flights from military bases in Germany arrive in the US only at night. Officials say this is purely the result of flight-scheduling pressures and is not a deliberate tactic to minimise detrimental publicity. They also say that by leaving Europe later in the day soldiers are given a better chance to sleep well the night before.

But many campaigners believe otherwise. Just as the Bush administration has banned the media from taking photographs of the coffins of American troops killed in Iraq as they arrive in the US, opponents say it is now trying to cover up the number of wounded.

"The American public has very limited information about the real impact of this war," said Ellen Taylor, a spokeswoman for Code Pink, a peace group that has been protesting outside the Walter Reed military hospital in Washington, where the bulk of the wounded are taken. "I think that a lot of information about this war is being kept from the public. That is what we are protesting about."

It is not even clear how many troops have been injured since the start of President Bush's "war on terror". The Pentagon says that around 12,000 troops have been evacuated from the battlefields of Afghanistan and Iraq, though because officials only list as casualties those soldiers directly hurt by bombs or bullets, the actual total of injured and wounded is believed to be closer to 25,000. Walter Reed says it has treated 4,000 troops injured in Iraq.

"Night-time arrivals are beneficial to the patient as they allow for a regular night of sleep and then for doctors in Europe to make the final determination on their ability to make the long flight, move patients from Landstuhl regional medical centre to Ramstein air base and board the plane," said a hospital spokeswoman, Lyn Kurkal. "There is no attempt by Walter Reed to hide the number of patients we receive. On the contrary, since the start of Operation Iraqi Freedom, Walter Reed public affairs has issued a weekly press release that includes the number of medically evacuated patients received that week."

And a spokesman for the Air Mobility Command said: There are no policies that direct anything about night arrivals or avoiding public contact. Neither public relations nor public perception play a role in flight schedules."

The flights from Germany on a C-141 Starlifter aircraft can take up to 10 hours. But, given the six-hour time difference between the US and Germany, the wounded soldiers could leave at noon from Ramstein and still arrive at Andrews Air Force base near Washington by 4pm.

Paul Rieckhoff, founder of Operation Truth, a group set up for veterans from Iraq and Afghanistan, said: "[A cover-up] would fit in with everything else they have done. It would be part of an effort to keep the cost of this war away from the American public. It is not surprising, but it is depressing. It should piss people off."

At the beginning of 2003, Mr Bush issued a presidential order that the media should be banned from photographing the return of troops' coffins when they are flown into the US, usually at Dover air base in Delaware. Parents of dead soldiers have also often been banned from meeting the coffins. Controversy raged last year when the Pentagon released a series of photographs following a Freedom of Information Act filing, but later withdrew them.

But officials have also banned the media from taking pictures of the wounded being delivered to either Walter Reed or the National Naval Medical Centre in nearby Bethesda. Ms Kurkal told The Independent on Sunday: "We no longer allow such photos for patient-privacy reasons." However, a reporter from the online journal Salon was recently able to enter Walter Reed and photograph wounded troops without revealing their identities.

Nancy Lessin of Military Families Speak Out, a group made up of relatives of US troops, said: "The entire Bush administration has been trying to keep the cost of this away from the public. The whole issue of casualties and the toll has been very much hidden."

 

conjur

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I think we had a thread on that a bit ago, BBond.


But, now another kidnapped American (to go along with the kidnapped Pakistani official)

U.S. Civilian Kidnapped in Iraq, Embassy Reports
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A43621-2005Apr11.html
BAGHDAD -- An American civilian working for a contractor on a foreign aid project in Iraq has been kidnapped, officials at the U.S. Embassy here reported Monday.

The embassy officials said they were notified of the kidnapping by U.S. military authorities. But they gave no details about the American's identity or how the kidnapping occurred. The American was working on a project in the Baghdad area, they said.
 

BBond

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Assorted violence, bombings, death, and assassinations.

Just another day in Georgie boy's "New Iraq"?

Car bombs kill at least 18 in Baghdad

Al-Qaida group claims attack; 8 killed elsewhere in Iraq

The Associated Press
Updated: 11:43 a.m. ET April 14, 2005

BAGHDAD, Iraq - Two car bombs exploded near the interior minister?s offices Thursday, killing 18 people and wounding three dozen. Al-Qaida in Iraq claimed responsibility for the blasts, the latest in several weeks of stepped up attacks that followed a relative lull in violence in mid-March.

Eight more people were killed in separate attacks in Iraq.

In a statement posted on the Internet, al-Qaida in Iraq, headed by Jordanian militant Abu Musab al-Zarqawi, said the bombings were targeting police who were guarding the offices of Interior Minister Falah al-Naqib, who is in charge of the nation?s police. The claim couldn?t be independently verified.

Al-Naqib was in his office at the time of the attack, but he left to examine the damage and said he was fine. The explosions didn?t damage the building.

The blasts sent large plumes of smoke rising over the city and threw passers-by to the ground. Ice cream vendor Ali Ahmed, 28, said he heard an explosion, followed by gunfire and another explosion.

?My stall was partially destroyed because of this terrorist act,? he said. ?Some people have lost their lives. As for me, I have now lost my source of income.?

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Stories from frontline families

The blasts blew out the windows of nearby restaurants in the upscale neighborhood of Baghdad, near the heavily fortified Green Zone. Panicked students from a nearby secondary school wept and shouted that they weren?t going to attend classes anymore, waiting in the street for school buses or relatives to pick them up.

After clearing the area, U.S. forces set off a third car that apparently failed to explode earlier, police said. No one was injured in the last blast.

Interior Ministry official, Capt. Ahmed Ismael, said the first two blasts killed 18 and wounded 36. One government worker said five garbage collectors he was supervising were among the dead.

8 others killed
Insurgents kept up attacks Thursday against Iraq?s security forces, which the U.S. military says must be able to impose a level of calm in the country before American troops can depart.

Gunmen hit police patrolling near the central Iraqi city of Baqouba, killing one officer and wounding three others, Lt. Col. Muthafar al-Jubori said.

In the capital, attackers shot and killed 1st Lt. Firas Hussein as he made his way to work at Iraq?s intelligence service, police Maj. Mousa Abdul Karim said.

In Kirkuk, seven gunmen riding in two vehicles fired on the police station just south of Kirkuk shortly after dawn, killing five police officers and one civilian, police Brig. Sarhat Qadir said.

Militant group Ansar al-Sunnah claimed responsibility for the attack, saying in an Internet posting that its ?knights of Islam? attacked ?renegade policemen doing their morning training.? The claim couldn?t be independently verified.

Ansar al-Sunnah also said it had teamed up with al-Zarqawi?s Al-Qaida in Iraq for an attack earlier this week in Kirkuk ? an unusual mention of cooperation among Iraq?s disparate and sometimes competing militant groups.

The Web posting said the Wednesday explosive device that killed 12 police was composed of three bombs buried under a decoy device ? a lure to draw policemen to the blast site.

In Tikrit, Saddam Hussein?s hometown 80 miles north of Baghdad, a car bomb exploded outside a U.S. military installation, injuring nine civilians and setting nearby houses ablaze, police Lt. Col. Amer Ahmed said.

The U.S. military said one American soldier and two Iraqi troops were injured ? but maintained no civilians were hurt.

 

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Looks like there is trouble across the border from Iraq in Turkey as well.

What the hell are Kurdish "rebels" doing crossing over into Turkey from Iraq? After all, they're already getting what amounts to their own country in the Iraqi post-election deals.

This is just another unintended consequence in Bush's folly.

Turkish troops kill 21 Kurdish rebels in southeast, suffer three losses

ANKARA, Turkey, April 14 ? Turkish troops killed 21 Kurdish rebels overnight in southeastern Turkey ? the biggest clash since the rebels declared a unilateral truce more than five years ago, an official statement said Thursday.
Three Turkish troops were killed in the clash near the town of Pervari, in Siirt province, the governor's office in Sirnak province said.

Private CNN-Turk television said earlier that Turkish troops had been pursuing rebels believed to have infiltrated into Turkey from neighboring Iraq in the past week, and that the clash erupted overnight.
Among the Turkish troops killed were a lieutenant and two sergeants, the semiofficial Anatolia news agency reported.
Violence has increased since June, when the rebels declared an end to a 5-year-old unilateral truce, saying that Turkey had not reciprocated. The rebels declared the cease-fire in 1999, following the capture of their leader, Abdullah Ocalan.
Earlier this month, Turkish troops killed nine rebels in a five-day clash on the Iraqi border.
The rebels belong to the Kurdistan Workers' Party, or PKK, which has been seeking autonomy in Turkey's southeast and has battled government forces since 1984 ? a conflict that has killed more than 37,000 people.

 

conjur

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Rising hatred of occupation
http://www.mg.co.za/articlePage.aspx?ar...235034&area=/insight/insight__national
Saddam Hussein?s effigy was pulled down again in Baghdad?s Firdos Square last weekend. But unlike the made-for-TV event when United States troops first entered the Iraqi capital, the toppling of Hussein on the occupation?s second anniversary was different.

Instead of being done by US Marines with a few dozen Iraqi bystanders, 300 000 Iraqis were on hand. They threw down effigies of US President George W Bush and British Prime Minister Tony Blair as well as the old dictator, at a rally that did not celebrate liberation but called for the immediate departure of foreign troops.

For most Iraqis, with the exception of the Kurds, Washington?s ?liberation? never was. Wounded national pride was greater than relief at Hussein?s departure. Iraqis were soon angered by the failure to get power and water supplies repaired, the brutality of US army tactics, and the disappearance of their country?s precious oil revenues into inadequately supervised accounts, or handed to foreigners under contracts that produced no benefits for Iraqis.

From last year?s disastrous attack on Fallujah to the huge increase in detentions without trial, the casualties go on rising. After an amnesty early last year, the numbers of ?security detainees? have gone up again and reached a record 17 000.

Last weekend?s vast protest shows that opposition is still growing, in spite of US and British government claims to have Iraqis? best interests at heart. It was the biggest demonstration since foreign troops invaded.

And...just a couple of tiny newsbits

Iraq Rebels Threaten to Kill 60 Shi'ite Hostages
http://www.reuters.com/newsArticle.jhtml?type=topNews&storyID=8199793

Latest Iraq Bombs Kill One; Bodies in Street
http://www.reuters.com/newsArticle.jhtml?type=topNews&storyID=8190771
 

conjur

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At least seven killed in Iraq restaurant blast
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/afp/iraqunrestbaquba
BAQUBA, Iraq (AFP) - At least seven people were killed, three of them policemen, in an explosion in a restaurant in Baquba north of Baghdad, an Iraqi army officer said.

"Seven people, including three policemen were killed and at least five other people were injured around 2:00 pm (1000 GMT) in an explosion at a restaurant near the courthouse in the centre of Baquba," Colonel Ismail Ibrahim told AFP.

He did not immediately know if the blast, which took out the back of the restaurant, was due to a bomb inside the establishment or to a booby-trapped car outside.

Baquba, some 60 kilometers (35 miles) north of Baghdad, is a mixed Sunni-Shiite town where insurgents have been very active.
 

conjur

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Baghdad car bomb kills US humanitarian worker
http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u...wl_mideast_afp/iraqustoll_050417154016
Marla Ruzicka, 27, who headed the Campaign for Innocent Victims in Conflict (CIVIC), a non-governmental organisation that lobbied to get financial compensation for civilian casualties of war, was driving toward the airport when her vehicle was targeted by a suicide car bomb, the US embassy said.

"There were four deaths we know of, including a suicide bomber. One of the dead was a private US citizen Marla Ruzicka. Her family has been notified," said spokesman Adam Hobson.

Hobson added that five others were wounded in the attack.
Another statistic in the march to freedom. Sure was a nice spring weekend in Baghdad.

:(


More on Marla Ruzicka:

An American activist who dared to help Iraqi victims
Intrepid humanitarian aid worker Marla Ruzicka died in Baghdad Saturday when her car was caught in an insurgent attack.
http://www.csmonitor.com/2005/0418/p07s01-woiq.html
Californian Marla Ruzicka was the head of an NGO whose blend of tenacity and optimism kept her in Iraq long after almost every other humanitarian aid organization had left.

Marla and her Iraqi driver died Saturday when their car was tragically caught between a suicide car bomber and a US military convoy.

Marla was more than a source for a story, she was one of those quiet cheerleaders that kept me - and the Iraqis she touched - going almost from the moment that I arrived here three years ago.

I first met her in Jordan, just before the war. A reporter friend told me that I should get to know this young activist who made a name for herself working for Global Exchange, the US organization that sent field workers to Afghanistan to count civilian casualties.

After the Iraq war, she moved her push for an accurate count of civilian casualties to Baghdad. At a time when the International Committee of the Red Cross and United Nations were leaving Iraq, Marla started the Campaign for Innocent Victims in Conflict. Through that, she helped Iraqi families navigate the process of claiming compensation from the US military for injuries and deaths.

When she died Marla was traveling to visit some of the many Iraqi families she was working to help. Lately, she had been attempting to aid the relatives of a toddler whose parents were killed after the mini-bus they were traveling in was hit by what was believed to be an American rocket. The baby was thrown out of a window to save her life.

It's still unclear exactly how Marla and her driver, Faiz, were killed. But early reports indicate that they were traveling on the dangerous route between Baghdad and the airport when a suicide car bomber tried to attack a military convoy. Faiz was an Iraqi Airways pilot, who at one time worked as an interpreter for Monitor correspondents in Iraq.


I was always amazed at how composed Marla remained amid the violence and confusion of Iraq. One of my favorite memories of her was when I was sitting in the middle of the Palestine Hotel lobby in Baghdad, surrounded by a confusing swirl of soldiers, officials, and reporters. Fear swept over me. What was I doing here? I had come as a freelancer, with no experience covering a war. Just as I was quietly freaking out, Marla appeared in the dusty, harried scene. She was the picture of calm in a perfect French braid and long blue dress. She was like a breeze blowing through, so tranquil, so clean.

Later in the fall of 2003 when I moved here and was despairing of my sputtering freelance work she would always say, "Jill, good for you. You're working so hard. I'm so proud of you." She was the eternal supportive cheerleader. One night she slipped a note in my hotel mailbox. It was a small essay of encouragement and praise from out of the blue, scribbled in black ink on a scrap of notebook paper.

I found out that Marla had died several hours after she didn't show up for a party that she planned at the Hamra, a hotel occupied mostly by foreign journalists. I was tired and wasn't going to go. My friend Scott went and called me about 11 p.m. He said no one had heard from Marla since about 2 o'clock that afternoon. The other journalists and I all feared a kidnapping. I went over to the Hamra lobby and asked at the reception desk if they knew Marla's driver's family. They said his brother had just called because they were worried they hadn't seen him. A bad sign.

Then we got a call from the US military saying a woman fitting her description had been in an accident, but that she was in the military hospital and in good condition. We were relieved. In Baghdad's strange logic, we all thanked God it was a car accident and not a kidnapping. Then we received another call. It was the military again. This time they said the woman was dead on arrival.

The only thing we can say now is at least she died doing what she wanted, doing what she really, really believed in. If she were still here, she'd be most worried now about her driver's family and who will take care of all the other Iraqi families she was working with.

She would point out, this happens to Iraqis every day and no one notices or even cares. There are no newspaper articles or investigations into what happens to them. For most of them, there was only Marla.

R.I.P., Marla
 

conjur

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http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/story.jsp?story=630712
Most violent incidents in Iraq go unreported. We saw one suicide bomb explosion, clouds of smoke and dust erupting into the air, and heard another in the space of an hour. Neither was mentioned in official reports. Last year US soldiers told the IoS that they do not tell their superiors about attacks on them unless they suffer casualties. This avoids bureaucratic hassle and "our generals want to hear about the number of attacks going down not up". This makes the official Pentagon claim that the number of insurgent attacks is down from 140 a day in January to 40 a day this month dubious.

Good thing the American media is on top of this.




Oh wait....
 

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Originally posted by: conjur
http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/story.jsp?story=630712
Most violent incidents in Iraq go unreported. We saw one suicide bomb explosion, clouds of smoke and dust erupting into the air, and heard another in the space of an hour. Neither was mentioned in official reports. Last year US soldiers told the IoS that they do not tell their superiors about attacks on them unless they suffer casualties. This avoids bureaucratic hassle and "our generals want to hear about the number of attacks going down not up". This makes the official Pentagon claim that the number of insurgent attacks is down from 140 a day in January to 40 a day this month dubious.

Good thing the American media is on top of this.




Oh wait....

American media.

I don't watch much TV news anymore. I turned it on this morning and got all Pope all the time. It's like watching paint dry. They were talking about the freakin' drapes! And the black and white smoke for the millionth time!

Pitiful.

Meanwhile the Shiite majority begins flexing its muscles in Iraq. I don't think Georgie is going to get the weak Iraqi government he wants. Could be trouble. :roll:

Iraqi Alliance Seeks to Oust Top Officials of Hussein Era

By Ellen Knickmeyer
Washington Post Foreign Service
Monday, April 18, 2005; Page A01

BAGHDAD, April 17 -- The Shiite Muslim bloc leading the new Iraqi government will demand the removal of all top officials left over from the era of former president Saddam Hussein, a top official said. The move would be part of a purge that U.S. officials fear could oust thousands of the most capable Iraqis from military and intelligence forces the United States has spent more than $5 billion rebuilding.

The Shiite-dominated United Iraqi Alliance also will insist on trials for every former official, soldier or worker suspected of wrongdoing during that time, Hussain Shahristani, who helped form the Shiite alliance, said in an interview that outlined plans for handling members of Hussein's Baath Party in the armed forces and intelligence services.

Shahristani said the alliance would also seek prosecution of what he said were the few thousand leaders of the Sunni Muslim-led insurgency.

For the alliance and the long-persecuted Shiite community it represents, Shahristani said, "justice prevails" over everything else.

Concerns about the purge have drawn a sharp U.S. response. Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld, flying unannounced to Iraq last week, warned the Shiite-led government not to "come in and clean house" in the security forces.

The Shiite alliance's plan also runs counter to efforts by other Iraqi politicians who say they hope to defuse the insurgency by drawing the disgruntled Sunni minority, routed from power with Hussein, back into the political process. The new president, Jalal Talabani, whose Kurdish bloc is in the governing coalition with the Shiite alliance, has called for an amnesty and government negotiations with some insurgents.

But Shahristani said the Shiite-led alliance believes weapons, not appeasement, will end the insurgency.

"I don't think the insurgency can be beaten by negotiations," said Shahristani, who is close to Iraq's most politically influential religious leader, Grand Ayatollah Ali Sistani. "For us in the alliance, we don't think it's serious. We think it's surrender, and the Iraqi people will not accept surrender."

How the purge is handled stands as one of the most potentially divisive and dangerous tasks facing the Shiite-Kurdish coalition brought to power by the Jan. 30 national elections. Adnan Ali Kadhimi, an aide to the incoming prime minister, Ibrahim Jafari, said Sunday that he was working to announce Jafari's new cabinet by early next week. Jafari is the country's first Shiite premier in a half-century.

Under Hussein, registration in the Baath Party was a requirement for jobs on almost all levels, from army general to teacher. Hussein's armed forces and his nearly two dozen intelligence agencies were responsible for mass killings, imprisonment, uprooting and torture. Members of the Shiite and Kurdish opposition made up hundreds of thousands of the victims.

Politicians say that people responsible for some of those abuses and Baathist die-hards have made their way into the new security forces and should be removed.

But too broad and deep a purge threatens to worsen one of the biggest legacies of Hussein's overthrow and the U.S. occupation: the growing sectarian and ethnic cast to the country's politics.

The perception of Shiite-dominated security forces and intelligence would heighten the sense of siege among some Sunni communities. Kurds and other Shiite groups also might be less willing to disband their militias, seeing them as a last defense to Shiite Islamic ambitions.

Wamidh Nadhmi, the leader of the Arab Nationalist Trend and a spokesman for a coalition of Sunni and Shiite groups that had boycotted the elections, said an aggressive purge of Iraq's security forces would end up riddling them with partisan loyalties, a frequent theme in Iraq's history, as parties vied for power.

"These people are threatening us with a warlord system that will destroy the country," Nadhmi said.

U.S. and many Iraqi leaders say throwing Baath-era officials and officers out of work could encourage them to join the insurgency.

A top U.S. concern is that the purge will go too far in military terms alone, decimating the new forces as they battle the insurgency across the country, a U.S. official in Baghdad said.

If the Shiite-led bloc "is going to do a very hard purge of everybody who ever carried a Baathist registration card, you're going to get rid of people who really have the experience and have proved themselves," the official said, speaking on condition of anonymity.

"We're really convinced that they're the key," he said of the Baath-era veterans, citing the performance of mid-level former Baath officers in important battles -- and the American lives and dollars invested in rebuilding Iraq's military.

And in a climate where sectarian and ethnic divisions are sharp, mistakes could gain a momentum of their own, a senior U.S. military official said, also speaking on condition of anonymity.

"Parties that come to the table don't come to the table with a great deal of trust for each other," he said. "And so any perceived missteps, any perceived overuse of power or underuse of power, depending on where you sit, I think, is going to be magnified. And so there is a danger just going down this entire process."

He said he saw a risk and a benefit in a purge.

"If you're talking about a purge, you have the very simple fact that you have a force that is gutted so you have a less capable force," he said. "If you don't have a purge, you've got some group that will sit on the side that looks at the members of the security forces and say some number of those should have been purged and that feeds the level of mistrust."

Shahristani pointed to the intelligence services as one of the main battlegrounds, as the Shiite alliance vies with Baath-era holdovers for control of the agencies and files.

Postwar intelligence services are staffed by many Baath officials and agents called back to duty by the CIA, in its search for solid intelligence against insurgents, U.S. and Iraqi officials have said.

"We know that most senior officials in the department are from the previous intelligence department who've been oppressing the Iraqi people," Shahristani said.

Lawmakers of the governing coalition say the Shiite alliance has agreed not to disband the key intelligence services. The question will be who directs and staffs them, they say. Any bloc that holds unchallenged control of national security agencies and their files would have the means, and information, to identify its political enemies.

If Sunni intelligence officials are purged, Shiite hard-liners would be ready to move in intelligence units of Shiite militias including the Badr Brigade, a group formed by Iraqi Shiite leaders when they were in exile in Iran while Hussein was in power.

"You have to assume -- Allawi assumes -- that the Badr Brigade would want to infiltrate security," a top Kurdish official in the coalition with the alliance said, referring to Ayad Allawi, prime minister in the interim government and one of the main officials now working to counter Shiite sectarianism in the new government.

Shahristani said the alliance's take on the purge was only slightly tougher than Allawi's. For the alliance, he said, "de-Baathification does not mean de-Sunnification, nor does it mean every single member of the Baath Party is guilty until proven innocent."

With only 17 Sunni lawmakers in the new 275-member assembly as a result of the Sunni boycott of elections, Sunnis largely have to look to others to represent their interests in the upcoming purge.

Nadhmi said he suspected that the United States would serve as a check.

"I cannot see that the Americans would allow the total dissolution of a system which they helped and which they initiated," he said. "They will be forced into a lot of compromises."

 

conjur

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The Propagandist better hurry up and force them to create the "proper" type of democracy.

Can't have them Iraqis thinking for themselves, can we? Might upset that military-industrial complex and cost the Propagandist's buddies untold billions.