Please welcome "naildart" to my family of home-hacked weapons!

Killbat

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Ha, with classes over, I can spend all day making destruction and causing a general ruckus! Har har! :)
 

Adul

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They are busy building the devices of tomorrow in the garage :Q

Killbat, you know what I am going to say. :)




<< Ha, with classes over, I can spend all day making destruction and causing a general ruckus! Har har! :) >>



one can only worry.:eek:
 

cxim

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KB, you will get much better result if you make a small paper CONE &amp; tape that to the back of the nail. You can also make the cone from thin plastic sheet, but paper works OK.

With paper cone, 4 ft of 1/2&quot; or 5/8&quot; copper pipe &amp; human breath, you can get 300fps.

It will stabilize well for a long trajectory &amp; improve velocity.
 

Killbat

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cxim:
Not sure how you figure a cone will improve speed. We measured those speeds at 8' from the target, drag has a minimal effect. I agree that the cone would fly better, but it's harder to make and more fragile (remember it's being shot by a propylene explosion). All you need to make these second-gen naildarts is a small length of masking tape and a knife.


&quot;With paper cone, 4 ft of 1/2&quot; or 5/8&quot; copper pipe &amp; human breath, you can get 300fps.&quot;
Human breath? Keep in mind that this is not a thin little blow dart, it's a big fat three and half inch nail. :)
 

ratkil

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Let's see here, you live up around Florissant right? Yeah, that's far enough away from Kirkwood, carry on with your experiments, but let me know when you get in to messing with either Cold or Hot fusion, okay? =D
 

cxim

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tape &amp; scissors to make the cone. quite easy &amp; quick.

You improve gas seal with a cone, which is main reason to use a cone.

Plastic stands up better with repeated shots.

assumed it was a real nail about 3&quot; or so from the pics.

Yep, hair spray, propane, ether ( my choice ), etc work OK.

I liked the rigid copper pipe for barrels better than PCV for darts.

I had a runin when younger about some pigeons &amp; retained darts &amp; stuff. Odd how a 3 1/2&quot; nail would just stick there &amp; the pigeon would still fly quite a distance.
 

Killbat

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Oh, seal, yea. I use a wad of damp cloth to fire stuff from the guns (except potatos and grapes, that is :)), so sealing is not a big deal. And repeated shots? HA! :) If I'm lucky enough to get the nail out without destroying the fins, I still have to bang it straight with a hammer!

[edit] It says in my Ars post that the nail is a 16d 3.5incher. How would'ya like to get hit with that thing cruising at 150MPH? Mwa ha ha :)
 

DannyLove

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i recommend you go read a book, and not those books titled 'how to waste your time building a nailgun!' ;):)

danny~!
 

Killbat

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Good question alf! Anyone know what muzzle speed qualifies as a &quot;gun&quot;?