CADsortaGUY
Lifer
Yes it is.
Here is your statement you seem to be trying to ignore:
You called them hypocrits and used the "rampant hateful stereotyping of Muslims" as your premise. The quantity is very important as the ones who you are trying to claim are hypocrits decried the quantity of the hate-spew against Christians.
hint - you quoted Crimson's post and then later specifically called him out for being a hypocrit. He certainly did decry the quantity along with the differing action taken against them(rather the lack of).
But hey if you want to change your accusation now, that's fine, I didn't expect you to admit you were wrong but I accept your change of accusation from "rampant hateful stereotyping of Muslims" to "any hateful Muslim stereotyping at all," It makes your argument a tad bit more coherent and maybe a bit more true. Also, it's hilarious that you, the king of goal-post moving has the nerve to claim that's what was going on here. You not providing anything at all(except a generic hey look in that one thread after a couple days of stonewalling) is evidence that I have not moved the goalposts. Now you in the other thread about my opinion... yep -that is a moving goalpost.
Ofcourse we still have that little issue about being a hypocrit in absentia -but I'm sure you'll have an excuse for that too.
BTW - if you had actually read my post you would have seen that I had read steeplebot's examples.
Now you go with your new hypocrisy angle if you think the change works.
CsG
CADsortaGUY
Lifer
Originally posted by: Bowfinger
...didn't think you were man enough to admit it...
*shrug* oh well, maybe next time....
CsG
Bowfinger
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Didn't think you could read: "You therefore rabidly cling to one subjective word, knowing you can keep moving the goal post -- and disrupting the thread -- no matter how much supporting evidence I provide. It's a fool's game, a game you love, and I won't play it."Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY
...didn't think you were man enough to admit it...Originally posted by: Bowfinger
*shrug* oh well, maybe next time....
CsG
I find you to be dishonest and dishonorable. Buh bye.
CADsortaGUY
Lifer
Bowfinger
Lifer
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Exactly. For me, at least, the problem isn't Christians per se, nor even Christians who want to spread their beliefs. The problem is the Christian fringe who are trying to force their beliefs on me and upon this country. It's another form of "the right to swing your arm ends at the tip of my nose" principle.
So what do you think of the people who are trying to force homosexuality into our public schools?
So what do you think of the people who are trying to force heterosexuality into our public schools?
Should we teach tolerance of Christians in schools? A substantial portion of this forum and others seems to need the lesson.
The problem with bigotry is that a bigot believes his bigotry is just and sees what he does out of that bigotry as doing the GOOD.
But an irrational belief that something is good just because it's written in a book thought sacred and true is just a religious belief and irrational. It's just a book that contains previous bigotry.
There is no rational or logical reason why homosexuals should not be accepted and it is, in fact, bigotry that seeks and actively works to exclude them.
But for the bigot, this is doing God's work.
Though, "you can tell a bigot, but you can't tell him much."
When you are certain you are good you are lost. That's how the devil wins. To the dark side the dark side is good.
Give me an example of someone pushing homosexuality, and you can be sure someone does the same thing for heterosexuality in schools.
Link
The Article 8 Alliance" claims the state's schools have become more active in pushing homosexuality with students, pointing to an April 30 event at Brookline High School.
Sponsored by the Gay Lesbian Straight Education Network, the event, said the Article 8 Alliance, featured a "hard-core pornographic homosexual 'how-to' booklet given to hundreds of kids."
Included in the booklet are graphic descriptions of homosexual conduct, including "fisting," along with a photo-spread discussion of condoms and instructions on how to put them on.
Also included is a list of homosexual bars and clubs in the Boston area "for the discerning queerboy." The Article 8 Alliance points out the students attending the event were of middle-school and high-school age.
The booklet mentions abstaining from risky activity, and then states, "But how much fun is that?"
Brian Camenker, director of Article 8 Alliance slammed the pro-homosexual agenda in Massachusetts.
"Contrary to the rosy picture painted in the mainstream media, we've seen an intensification of undemocratic, anti-free-speech activities throughout our state ? in the schools, in government and in the media," he said in a statement. "Alternative points of view are routinely drowned out by ignoring the message, intimidation, name-calling or lack of proper notification. Even pro-family churches now hesitate to speak out on this moral issue, since it has been politicized by the radical homosexuals and their allies."
Continued Camenker: "Meanwhile, our Legislature and governor continue to support gay clubs in our public schools, which draw our young people into this dangerous and destructive lifestyle," saying he had never seen anything as "bad" as the "Little Black Book."
The associate director of the group, John Haskins, also took aim at Gov. Mitt Romney.
"The one person who could easily have prevented this situation simply by defending the state constitution ? our Republican governor ? is getting a pass, even from pro-family conservative media, and has set his sights on the White House," Haskins said. "If he is not exposed as a very, very, very nice man with neither courage nor convictions, he will indeed be a Republican Manchurian Candidate in 2008."
As WorldNetDaily reported, a Massachusetts father who recently protested a pro-homosexual book his 6-year-old son had been given in school spent a night in jail after being arrested by police ? an incident the activist group mentions as further evidence of a pro-"gay" attitude by officials.
The right promotes teaching abstinence, not heterosexuality.
The Article 8 Alliance" claims the state's schools have become more active in pushing homosexuality with students, pointing to an April 30 event at Brookline High School.
Sponsored by the Gay Lesbian Straight Education Network, the event, said the Article 8 Alliance, featured a "hard-core pornographic homosexual 'how-to' booklet given to hundreds of kids."
Included in the booklet are graphic descriptions of homosexual conduct, including "fisting," along with a photo-spread discussion of condoms and instructions on how to put them on.
Also included is a list of homosexual bars and clubs in the Boston area "for the discerning queerboy." The Article 8 Alliance points out the students attending the event were of middle-school and high-school age.
The booklet mentions abstaining from risky activity, and then states, "But how much fun is that?"
Brian Camenker, director of Article 8 Alliance slammed the pro-homosexual agenda in Massachusetts.
"Contrary to the rosy picture painted in the mainstream media, we've seen an intensification of undemocratic, anti-free-speech activities throughout our state ? in the schools, in government and in the media," he said in a statement. "Alternative points of view are routinely drowned out by ignoring the message, intimidation, name-calling or lack of proper notification. Even pro-family churches now hesitate to speak out on this moral issue, since it has been politicized by the radical homosexuals and their allies."
Continued Camenker: "Meanwhile, our Legislature and governor continue to support gay clubs in our public schools, which draw our young people into this dangerous and destructive lifestyle," saying he had never seen anything as "bad" as the "Little Black Book."
The associate director of the group, John Haskins, also took aim at Gov. Mitt Romney.
"The one person who could easily have prevented this situation simply by defending the state constitution ? our Republican governor ? is getting a pass, even from pro-family conservative media, and has set his sights on the White House," Haskins said. "If he is not exposed as a very, very, very nice man with neither courage nor convictions, he will indeed be a Republican Manchurian Candidate in 2008."
As WorldNetDaily reported, a Massachusetts father who recently protested a pro-homosexual book his 6-year-old son had been given in school spent a night in jail after being arrested by police ? an incident the activist group mentions as further evidence of a pro-"gay" attitude by officials.
The right promotes teaching abstinence, not heterosexuality.
Steeplerot
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ohhh noooes, it point out that there are places to go where they are not ostracized and told they are lesser humans for the way they were born,
this coming from people who call it "dangerous lifestyle"...sure, You get a bunch of gay people together they usually have far cleaner safer neighborhoods
with well rounded tolerant folk then any wacked out child abusing hate filled racist alcoholic suburb full of "godly" christian hypocrites.
get a grip folks...let people make their own path and try for societys sake to cast off the burden of your parents fvcked dysfuntional childhoods and religious headtrips they are trying to dump on you.
grow up and move on...the 50's are over. beaver cleaver's family was bvllsh1t.
this coming from people who call it "dangerous lifestyle"...sure, You get a bunch of gay people together they usually have far cleaner safer neighborhoods
with well rounded tolerant folk then any wacked out child abusing hate filled racist alcoholic suburb full of "godly" christian hypocrites.
get a grip folks...let people make their own path and try for societys sake to cast off the burden of your parents fvcked dysfuntional childhoods and religious headtrips they are trying to dump on you.
grow up and move on...the 50's are over. beaver cleaver's family was bvllsh1t.
That site is bogus. Just because a random crap internet site says that someone is pushing homosexuality into the classroom doesn't make it true.
Tell that to the father of a 6 year old child who went to jail for wanting to shield his child from the gay agenda.
What he wants is to insure that his kid grows up the same bigot as him. But there is an appropriate time and place for sex education and it is not age six. There is plenty of room for debate for children being protected from any form of overly explicit sex of any kind and that should be the issue. I would be on any religious group that was pushing pictures of little girls giving blow jobs to the pasture, rabbi, or priest.
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