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Using parents' fear is an ingenious method to keep the manual around. Why didn't I think of that? Kids used to have to beg their parents to let them get a manual car, now it could be the other way around with this texting and driving malarchy
 
Bl0cks said:
I thought by manuals he meant the book. I was severely disappointed.
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MrWizzard said:
This might be the wrong time to bring this up but if that runaway Toyota had been a manual all they would have done is push the clutch peddle and their problem would have been solved. Without the electronic component you are in more control, even though a lot of cars these days have assisted clutches it still will work without power, might be a little harder to use though.
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I haven't tried it at speed in my car but couldn't you just toss it in neutral even if its an auto?
 
MJinZ said:
Sense of control from a manual?

It's a transmission. You can have control the transmission on most modern cars by selecting the gear you wish to be in.
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You're massively over simplifying what a manual transmission provides the driver. There's more to it than just gear choice.
 
MrWizzard said:
This might be the wrong time to bring this up but if that runaway Toyota had been a manual all they would have done is push the clutch peddle and their problem would have been solved. Without the electronic component you are in more control, even though a lot of cars these days have assisted clutches it still will work without power, might be a little harder to use though.
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you don't have to clutch to shift, I do it all the time. I have a solara(basically a 2 door camry) with a manual. just yank that out of gear and coast.
 
zerocool84 said:
Or just hit the brakes since the brakes will overpower the car even at full throttle.
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yea, but the idiots in question pumped the brakes when freaking out that the car wouldnt stop. the power assist loses pressure when you brake. when your over 30% throttle, it doesnt recharge the power assist, so after the 3rd try or so, the pedal drops to the floor and the brakes "dont work."

stupid people shouldnt drive. my wifes 09 corolla is a recall corolla, and we havent had a problem. but we also know better about the pumping the brakes on a modern vehicle with brake assist and abs (pointless).

i also drive an 84 toyota pickup w/ 5spd manual. love my manual transmission but i understand how the laziness of modern america makes people want automatics, especially in cali traffic. save the manual, yes. force people to learn it, we should. the big issue is people with an iq lower then room temperature drive cars in the first place (so that makes the "save the children" line moot). Anyone who drives a manual can stop that vehicle better and with more control then someone in the automatic equivalent who cant drive a manual. my wife is surprised by how quick i can stop my 2ton 84 pickup with no abs, because im in control of the vehicle.
 
Semi-serious or serious off roading? Have fun with an automatic, tell me how that worked out for you. I'll be old fashioned and stick with my 6 speed and clutch.

An auto is fine for your average driver and average grocery getting sedan, which is why most of them are only available with an auto. For me (and my wife) it *has* to be a manual. Every other consideration is secondary. I'd rather have a Miata with a 6 speed than a Z3 with an automatic. Crazy, I know. But more engaging and fun for me to drive, which is the important thing.
 
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