Please recommend some OC settings for non-overclocker

craftech

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Hi,

I do video editing and have put together a second computer. It is running XP Pro.

I have a Gigabyte EP45-UD3P motherboard.

Pentium e5200 with an Arctic Cooling Freezer 7 attached.

Two 2GB sticks of Super Talent PC2-6400.

MSI Radeon HD4830 with 512Mb

Corsair CMPSU-520HX PS.

The stock speed is 2.5 GHZ and I would like to run it at 3 GHZ. I read the stickies and a bunch of stuff on overclocking and it seems like I don't want to mess with voltage timings, ram timings, etc

It's really a workhorse computer and rather than get a faster CPU I thought I would overclock the e5200 which has a multiplier of 12.5.

If I simply change the FSB in the BIOS to 240 would that be good enough without having to change anything else?

Thanks for the advice.

John

EDIT: Also have a retail e5300 in a box somewhere, but heard the e5200 was easier to overclock.
 
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Kenmitch

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Just change the FSB to 266 and give it a shot at 3.33ghz I doubt you'll have to play with voltages at all. But you might wanna just go into bios and set then to normal if the option is available. Some MB's tend to increase voltages on auto beyond what's needed when you start upping the FSB. Make sure you keep the memory in spec. 3.33ghz should be an easy overclock for the e5200....Mine did 4.25ghz back in the day :)
 

craftech

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Just change the FSB to 266 and give it a shot at 3.33ghz I doubt you'll have to play with voltages at all. But you might wanna just go into bios and set then to normal if the option is available. Some MB's tend to increase voltages on auto beyond what's needed when you start upping the FSB. Make sure you keep the memory in spec. 3.33ghz should be an easy overclock for the e5200....Mine did 4.25ghz back in the day :)

Thanks Ken,

OK,

1. Set FSB to 266

2. Look for voltage setting that has "Auto/Normal" as a choice.

3. Keep the memory in Spec ..............meaning 400 ??

Do I have that right?

Regards,

John
 

Kenmitch

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Yes

Yes....But normal would be best if it's an option as it will keep it at stock voltage. But if it's not available use Auto or just hard lock the voltage to what stock voltage is.

Yes

LMK how it goes :)
 

craftech

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Yes

Yes....But normal would be best if it's an option as it will keep it at stock voltage. But if it's not available use Auto or just hard lock the voltage to what stock voltage is.

Yes

LMK how it goes :)

I went in there and was hit with too many settings. This board was definitely not designed for the non-overclocker.

This is what it looks like:

http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/foru...te-ga-ep45-ud3p-p45-motherboard-review-7.html

The MIT (Motherboard Intelligent Tweaker) screen is where all the settings are that I need, but there are too many of them.

I did try changing only the FSB to 266, leaving everything else as is and it did boot, but I got nervous and changed it back thinking I should probably have also changed something else to be safe.

John
 

Kenmitch

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On the MIT page just change the fsb to 266. Then change the system memory multiplier to make the memory run at 800mhz. Should work fine with cpu vcore on auto or scroll down and change it to normal if available.
 

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Set your vcore to 1.25v and set the FSB to 266, that board is extremely robust and the e5200 won't really stress it, but you still want a static vcore set on the CPU. Set memory divider so that your ram runs @ stock settings and you hopefully will be good to go. If you have an older e5200 from when they came out though, be weary, my launch sample did barely 3.3, but most now do like 4.3 lmao
 

craftech

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Thanks to both of you. That really helped.

Set FSB to 266

Set Vcore to "Normal" (BIOS says normal is supposed to be 1.225v)

Set Ram divider to to 300mHz which gave me 800mHz


Booted into Windows and am now running CPU-Z, CPUID Hardware Monitor, and Orthos Beta by Johnny Lee (set to mixed CPU and Ram stress)

Temps are staying at 38 degrees C

CPU Vcore is 1.17

DDR 1.90v

Memory 399 MHZ

FSB DRAM ratio 2:3

Timing is 5-5-5-15

Orthos Stress Test has been running fifteen minutes.

Sound good??

Thanks again,

John
 
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Kenmitch

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Settings look good.

Just stress test it good to make shure it's stable. Then you should be good to go. You could get a quicker idea of stability if you try something like Intel Burn Test. I doubt you'll have to but if it's unstable just bump the vcore up a little bit if needed.
 

craftech

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Settings look good.

Just stress test it good to make shure it's stable. Then you should be good to go. You could get a quicker idea of stability if you try something like Intel Burn Test. I doubt you'll have to but if it's unstable just bump the vcore up a little bit if needed.

Thanks a lot Ken.

And when CPUID says the Vcore is 1.17v, isn't it supposed to be 1.225v as it says is "normal" in the BIOS? Or doesn't that matter?

John
 

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CPUID shows it at 1.17v during stress testing? Idle?

Next time you reboot go into bios and look at the HW Monitor tab and it'll show you what the bios is feeding the chip with the normal setting. All chips are not created equal so it's possible the vid on your chip is lower than what bios said is normal. Not shure if bios reads the vid to show the normal voltage.

Lower vcore = cooler running chip. Just gotta make shure it's stable and your good to go.
 

craftech

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CPUID shows it at 1.17v during stress testing? Idle?

Next time you reboot go into bios and look at the HW Monitor tab and it'll show you what the bios is feeding the chip with the normal setting. All chips are not created equal so it's possible the vid on your chip is lower than what bios said is normal. Not shure if bios reads the vid to show the normal voltage.

Lower vcore = cooler running chip. Just gotta make shure it's stable and your good to go.

During stress testing. At idle it says it's 1.08v

I'll look at that Hardware tab next. I could manually set the voltage to 1.225 in the BIOS if necessary.

Thanks,

John

EDIT: PC Health Status in the BIOS said that the VCore was 1.204v so I manually set the voltage to 1.225v.
But CPU-Z and CPUID both still say that the VCore is 1.17 v under a load.

Do you have any idea why?
 
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Kenmitch

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You should be good to go it looks like. I wouldn't bump the voltage up unless it's unstable. If needed just bump it up a tic or two at a time and stress test it. Intel Burn Test will error out quickly if it's unstable which makes it a good stress tester for the early stages of the overclocking adventure.

Next time you go into bios go into the MIT page and lock the pci-frequency to 100 to be safe. Only other thing you might wanna change is your memory voltage to it's rated spec which is ? 1.80v ?

Looks like you still have the energy saving features enabled on the chip. That would explain the idle and load voltage diff in cpuid. I'd leave this enabled as it will lower idle temps and power usage and should pose no problems with your overclock.
 

craftech

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You should be good to go it looks like. I wouldn't bump the voltage up unless it's unstable. If needed just bump it up a tic or two at a time and stress test it. Intel Burn Test will error out quickly if it's unstable which makes it a good stress tester for the early stages of the overclocking adventure.

Next time you go into bios go into the MIT page and lock the pci-frequency to 100 to be safe. Only other thing you might wanna change is your memory voltage to it's rated spec which is ? 1.80v ?

Looks like you still have the energy saving features enabled on the chip. That would explain the idle and load voltage diff in cpuid. I'd leave this enabled as it will lower idle temps and power usage and should pose no problems with your overclock.

I ran the Intel Stress Test at "Normal" and it passed. The CPU temp got as high as 53 degrees C (a little higher than the Orthos test). AFAIK that's an OK temp.

I'll make those changes in the BIOS.

Can't thank you enough for helping me Ken.

Regards,

John
 

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That's why they call it Intel Burn Test as it lives up to it's name....Those temps are fine and most likely you'll never load it in use as much as IBT does. I'd suggest you try it at max memory also and maybe change it to 10 or more runs.

No problem :)
 

craftech

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That's why they call it Intel Burn Test as it lives up to it's name....Those temps are fine and most likely you'll never load it in use as much as IBT does. I'd suggest you try it at max memory also and maybe change it to 10 or more runs.

No problem :)

I think that's a good idea. Some video renderings can take more than 10 hours depending upon their complexity. Might as well slap the system around now while there is nothing of any importance on it. Have you seen all the settings on this MB? Latches, etc. One reviewer said it has enough settings to trash it permanently.

Thanks again,

John
 

Kenmitch

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I think that's a good idea. Some video renderings can take more than 10 hours depending upon their complexity. Might as well slap the system around now while there is nothing of any importance on it. Have you seen all the settings on this MB? Latches, etc. One reviewer said it has enough settings to trash it permanently.

Thanks again,

John

To me your going for such a mild overclock that your MB is way overkill....But will come in handy later if you want more speed or switch to a quad core chip!

I had my e5200 running at 4.25ghz on a $50 gigabyte micro atx board :)