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Sophia

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BlipBlop,

Well, most of the "normal" people I know don't even know AT exists! ;) Yes, your feelings do sound common. To be much too brief in reply...

On the inside, though, I just don't feel like I'm where I could be.
Where do you want to be? More specifically, who do you want to be?

PM me (enable private messaging) if you'd care for a considerable (non-judgmental) reply to some of your comments.


 

Rookie

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sometimes knowing you aren't alone in and of itself can be helpful.

takes away the feeling that you are a loner...

and quite often it is easier to tell problems to a stranger as they have no preconceived notion of how you are "supposed" to act.

best of luck to you in your quest for happiness.

My 2 cents says, go for your law degree man. You have nothing to lose by doing it in my book. You can never be too educated. Regardless of the current state or the world...

 

Jeffwo

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Blip Blop,

I don't know if I even know what normal is but you are going through some of the same
things that I am. I must admit, here lately, things have seemed to be too big for me to
handle too. I do beleive in God though and pray almost every day, then I try my best to
walk in faith and allow Him to figure everything out. That takes the heat off of me, as long
as I actually do that (allow Him).

My 2 cents worth,
Jeff
 

Russ

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<< Russ, What the fu*k is your problem anyways? >>



Czar,

Did you not read my previous post? I have none.

Russ, NCNE

 

Czar

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<< Russ, What the fu*k is your problem anyways? >>



Czar,

Did you not read my previous post? I have none.

Russ, NCNE
>>


so does that give you a reason to attack those who have problems?
 

Russ

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<< so does that give you a reason to attack those who have problems? >>



He drew first blood, peacenik.

Russ, NCNE

 

BD2003

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I can give you the psych major point of view, but I'm no MD.

Humans are ALWAYS dissatisfied. Sure, we experience satisfaction all the time, but typically after a while we begin to want more. If you think money is going to solve all your problems, it isnt going to. They've done studies on lottery winners, and a year later they were asked if they were on the average overall happier than before, and none of them really said yes. Turned out to be about the same.

You actually seem to remind me of a friend I have in college. Absolute workaholic, quasi depressed, just plain unhappy. Wont be happy unless he's a millionaire. He also seems to think money is going to solve his problems.

He is unhappy and depressed because he works himself to DEATH. The kid wont take a fvcking break to watch a movie or play a round of monkey ball cause he's so worked. Meanwhile he tells everyone how I'm going to be such a failure because my GPA is only 2.5, and I cut class all the time, and just kinda hang around all day. And he absolute hates me because I'm happy.

Stop measuring your self worth in terms of what school you've been accepted to, or how much your paycheck will be.

And as an American you are in absolutely little to no danger. Sure, theres a little anthrax here or there, but 20 people out of a few hundred million is NOTHING. More people died walking their dog on one day than by anthrax. Besides, thats what armies are for. We can kick anyone's ass.

Just stop watching CNN so much. The world is not going to end, and if it comes to war, we'll be the ones on top.
 

todpod

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BlipBlop, I had a friend tell me along time ago when we were talking about life and that there seemed to be a large hole in my life, that just maybe there wasn't this great ephiany, that life is all that it should be. At some point you have to accept that fact that this is what life is. No big moments that make you fulfilled, but its the the little things that make life. Since that time alot has happened, got married had 2 kids, had two neck surgeries, I am flat broke and back in school, and other then having no money I couldn't be happier, its just the little things with the wife and kiddies make the rest seem worth while. Now I realize that no girl friend is one of your problems, that just takes time and patience, is was key here it me along time to get here.

As far as the world goes, read a history book nothing has changed, we were lulled into a false sense of peace in the 90's nothing has changed, and you know what that ain't nothing you can do about that. You want to do something positive, start affectting change in you own community, you have risen from drug abuse to a Lawyer, you could show people that you can recover and succeed.

I hope this helps a little todd
 

DigDug

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thanks guys, I really appreciate the words. YOu all make alot of sense - its just that jump that I need to make.


Russ, I didn't start it. You made one of your usual useless and disparaging remarks towards me, when I merely opened myself up to seek some encouragement and constructive criticism.
 

AreaCode707

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PM linuxboy with your comments and expect an interesting answer. He's our resident psychotherapist/cheerful ah heck. :)
 

Perknose

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<< im getting scared, czar and russ are arguing. they are two super ATOT ppl! :Q!!! >>

If you're gonna get scared every time Czar and Russ end up on opposite sides of a question here, you may as well put yourself on your regional heart transplant recipient list RIGHT NOW, you're gonna need it!! :Q
 

Russ

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<< Russ, I didn't start it. You made one of your usual useless and disparaging remarks towards me >>



BlipBlop,

You mean this?



<< << it seems to be a good barometer of "normalcy" >> Note for the slow - this refers to ATOT

Man, are you lost.
>>



Warning! Incoming clue! It was a joke! Duh!

Real similar to this one from a thread I posted:



<< That's why I posted it here for evaluation from the collective brainpower that is ATOT. - ME.

<< the collective brainpower that is ATOT. >>

HAhaHAhaHAhaHAha!!! - RESPONSE.
>>



Now, the difference here is that I knew Lordmaul was making a joke, and did not respond. You, OTOH, in the the throes of your little self-pity party, respond by calling me a robot.

Get it yet?

Russ, NCNE
 

LongCoolMother

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<<

<< Russ, I didn't start it. You made one of your usual useless and disparaging remarks towards me >>



BlipBlop,

You mean this?



<< << it seems to be a good barometer of "normalcy" >> Note for the slow - this refers to ATOT

Man, are you lost.
>>



Warning! Incoming clue! It was a joke! Duh!

Real similar to this one from a thread I posted:



<< That's why I posted it here for evaluation from the collective brainpower that is ATOT. - ME.

<< the collective brainpower that is ATOT. >>

HAhaHAhaHAhaHAha!!! - RESPONSE.
>>



Now, the difference here is that I knew Lordmaul was making a joke, and did not respond. You, OTOH, in the the throes of your little self-pity party, respond by calling me a robot.

Get it yet?

Russ, NCNE
>>



*gasp*
rolleye.gif
 

Moonbeam

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<<<< it seems to be a good barometer of "normalcy" >>>>



<<Man, are you lost.>>

BlipBlop, If you think of that as a joke in which Russ is calling the people who inhabit ATOT as anything but normal it's quite funny.

On the other hand, if you are expressing feelings, as I think you are, of kind of being lost, it is very easy to take what may have been a jab at the rest of us personally and seen it it an intended insult. Considering that Russ thinks you drew first blood, I would say that he meant the former. I can see though how you might have interpreted it differently. Where I would differ with Russ is in his assessment of the wisdom of revealing personal problems on a BBS. I found your post compelling, deeply insightful and moving. You don't strike me as some flake or flighty air head who could be set off the deep end by the stupidity of some of the stuff that can get posted. Seems to me you zre rather sophisticated, both in the quality of your self analysis and in your responses here.

Anyway, I can deeply identify with what you express and thank you for doing so. Remembering that Russ warned that none of us is qualified to speak here, you can discount the my following brief 2 cents worth. I'll make it short because I've said it enough now to that it's tiresome to me and I'm sure others:

I set out to find a way to comfort myself in the face of the tragedy of the world when I reached the age when one begins to become aware of such things. I believed in God, but I wanted to prove that he exists to finally end suffering. I failed. I saw through everything and realized I had believed a lie. I went into a depression so deep that I can barely imagine now imagine. Everything was completely black. I knew that I would never ever be happy. The pain was crushing. Life was totally meaningless. I happened on a book of Zen Buddhism and found people saying the same thing as me. No God, no meaning, nothing, but they were smiling. WTF is that. How can they smile. That was a powerful and important awakening for me. Could it be that meaninglessness doesn't need to make you miserable. I thing that possibility would never have occurred to me. Meaning was everything. There were a bunch of Zen koans that helped challenge or shake deep rooted assumptions that I was operating on without awareness that I held them. Anyway as a result of all the odd and completely different impacts these Zen masters were saying, and probably for other reasons I really can't explain, one night, as I lay trying to figure out why I was so unhappy, I went deeper and deeper into that question. A big gust of wind hit the house. I sort of woke up alone in bed aware of nothing but that blast of wind. I felt a deep pease. I understood. I realized that all the love that died when my love for God died was still there in the center of my being. Love and joy can't die or be lost, they can only become burried deep within surrounded by worry and fear. Nothing is required for them to be because they are the deepest core of our being, who we really are.

So I guess I can say that one thing that I think seems to keep people in a twilight zone is the fear of feeling bad, the fear that if we allow ourselves to feel we will fall into a bottomless pit. Personally, I couldn't stop my fall, but I'm glad I happened onto those Zen dudes. 'If you've got a pumpkin I'll give you one and if you haven't got one I'll take it away.'






 

lawaris

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<< Ya know, it surprises me that I didn't turn to you al sooner. Despite the various vices this forum holds, it seems to be a good barometer of "normalcy" and perhaps it can help me with my situation.

Do any of you suffer from what I like to call quasi-depression?

See, I used to be a very depressed person. I couldn't imagine what it was like to be happy. I saw only the darker side of things. I had an overwhelming empathy for the disadvantaged (which was obviously a transference of self-pity), and I just didn't feel like like had any meaning. A natural consequence of this was amotivation, escapism through drug use, and basically lying in bed all day.
I have gotten over that. Through the use of antidepressants, I lifted my head out of the dark cloud enough so that I could re-experience a non-depressive mindset and have since stopped taking anti-depressants (and all mind-altering drugs for that matter). On the surface of it, I am a portrait of success, or at the very least the portrait of a relatively circuitous path to success - top ten liberal arts school -> drop out for two years -> returns and hold a 3.8 gpa -> enters a good law school....

On the inside, though, I just don't feel like I'm where I could be. Having screwed up the earlier part of my undergraduate education, I wasn't able to matriculate at a top law school, and instead had to settle for a school a bit below that. I have worked myself to death in my first year, trying to prove to myself that I can live up to my potential. The big realization, however, is not that I am capable of such a thing, but that even if I am capable, such "success" still won't give me what I want. Is this the beginning of the all-too-common perpertual dissatisfaction that so many people seem to face?
I mean, in some ways I do have it all - decent looks (or so I am told), decent personality (or so I am told), a good future, a good, strong family (although my parents messy almost-divorce was heavily responsible for my initial deep depression), and youth (although its fading by the second!). In other ways, and often the view I seem to default to, I have nothing - I don't have a girlfriend, I am not at a school or position where I feel I am even able to demonstrate my potential, I have tremendous guilt over the grief I've caused my parents, and I have a brother who, though suffered like I did, seemed to make all the right choices....he is about to be accepted (I'm alomst sure of it) to a top-ten law school (but I'm not jealous in the traditional sense - I am really happy for him and he deserves it...he's busted his ass).

As if such internal problems weren't enough, I feel that the world is also about to explode. The crisis in the middle east and the underlying prejudice, racism, nationalism (read: fascism), and general us/them hostility is threatening to destroy the world I and you live in. While an explosion or a nuclear blast may not ever occur (although it looks like it will), enough damage has already been done. Whether or not you want to admit it, we are living in a different America, where anthrax attacks are now commonplace, FBI warnings about possible attacks have become expected, and the fate of our lives are called into question. How do I go to school - an "occupation" whose sole purpose is to prepare for the future - when I can't convince myself that a future even exists, or one that I want to be a part of?

Perhaps taken seperately, these are all worries that are conquerable. But taken together, there is indeed a greater sum than all of the parts - and I feel like the world is upon my shoulders. Am I the only one who feels this way? Is there something really wrong with me?
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Hi,
I might look like a fool trying to answer this post seriously .....but I do feel that maybe what all u have written is true ..........

1. As far as I know we all suffer depression - just the degree varies......

2. Dis-satisfaction is the key to success. U try only when u r satisfied !

3. The world has had problems long b'for u were born and it has found a way evertime to survive ......


so, the lesson i s.....just take care of yourself and try to be a good human being and the rest will fall into place itself.

BTW : I think u need some loving company ........or am I mistaken ??