Please please PLEASE can I post umolested URLs? (IMGUR, YouTube)

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Spacehead

Lifer
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Testing

@Ichinisan
@CZroe


I took the 4 code links from your post #17. Let's see what happens.


Click on "Insert Link", paste into URL box, nothing for "Text":
https://www.google.com/search?q=test
https://www.google.com/search?q=test&tbm=isch


Pasting directly into the reply box:





Same Youtube link, click on "Insert Link", paste into URL box, same URL for"Text":
http://youtube.com/watch?v=G-ssDk6QiAo&t=44s


Text formatting issue seems to be gone too. [edit]Um, maybe not.
 

CZroe

Lifer
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Testing

@Ichinisan
@CZroe


I took the 4 code links from your post #17. Let's see what happens.


Click on "Insert Link", paste into URL box, nothing for "Text":
https://www.google.com/search?q=test
https://www.google.com/search?q=test&tbm=isch


Pasting directly into the reply box:





Same Youtube link, click on "Insert Link", paste into URL box, same URL for"Text":
http://youtube.com/watch?v=G-ssDk6QiAo&t=44s


Text formatting issue seems to be gone too. [edit]Um, maybe not.
Even things that work on the regular forums are broken for no good reason elsewhere. Like IMGUR links.
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The "middle name" threads are hopelessly broken on Tapatalk.

It's a predictable problem. Just stop screwing with URLs, Anandtech!
 

CZroe

Lifer
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@CZroe
That work for you? It may get you what you want but not sure how easy it is on a phone.

imgur.com/a/O8tAXJY

Insert Link &
Code:
URL = http://imgur.com/a/O8tAXJY
Text = imgur.com/a/O8tAXJY

Yes!
Looks/works like a standard link. Launched the IMGUR app and just works.

The problem remains that everyone else posting IMGUR, GIPHY, Reddit, etc links as they normally do results in broken links for Tapatalk. I can't make them use URL tags. :(
 

Spacehead

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The problem remains that everyone else posting IMGUR, GIPHY, Reddit, etc links as they normally do results in broken links for Tapatalk. I can't make them use URL tags. :(
Well, now that you know it works at least you can start spreading the word. Whether others opt to try using it is up to them.

Also, it works for imgur & YouTube but i wonder if it'll work for all the other sites that get wrapped in a MEDIA tag by the forums? I haven't tried any other sites.
 

Ichinisan

Lifer
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Well, now that you know it works at least you can start spreading the word. Whether others opt to try using it is up to them.

Also, it works for imgur & YouTube but i wonder if it'll work for all the other sites that get wrapped in a MEDIA tag by the forums? I haven't tried any other sites.
I can't make the YouTube time stamp link work in this thread:

It always converts to a MEDIA tag and embeds the video, with no time stamp. No matter what.
Code:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rbHxeOQA1Mc#t=8m20s

Test:

...that's what it did when I tapped "insert link" and pasted the full URL into both fields.
 

Spacehead

Lifer
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@Ichinisan
Try this, Insert Link &
Code:
URL = https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rbHxeOQA1Mc#t=8m20s
Text = youtube.com/watch?v=rbHxeOQA1Mc#t=8m20s

youtube.com/watch?v=rbHxeOQA1Mc#t=8m20s

I didn't try playing the video to see if it starts at the correct time.

I wonder if stripping the "https://www." portion of URLs in the "Text" box will work for all the sites that are forced to have a Media tag?
Weird though, look at my post #26 above, near the bottom of the post. The YouTube link showed correctly there but not with the one we're trying now. Wonder if it's because it's "http://" not "https://www".

Also, read post # 90 & 91 here:
https://forums.anandtech.com/thread...e-what-do-you-recommend.2577830/post-40089352
Do we have a choice of editors? I'm a missing something?
 

Ichinisan

Lifer
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@Ichinisan
Try this, Insert Link &
Code:
URL = https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rbHxeOQA1Mc#t=8m20s
Text = youtube.com/watch?v=rbHxeOQA1Mc#t=8m20s

youtube.com/watch?v=rbHxeOQA1Mc#t=8m20s

I didn't try playing the video to see if it starts at the correct time.

I wonder if stripping the "https://www." portion of URLs in the "Text" box will work for all the sites that are forced to have a Media tag?
Weird though, look at my post #26 above, near the bottom of the post. The YouTube link showed correctly there but not with the one we're trying now. Wonder if it's because it's "http://" not "https://www".

Also, read post # 90 & 91 here:
https://forums.anandtech.com/thread...e-what-do-you-recommend.2577830/post-40089352
Do we have a choice of editors? I'm a missing something?
The little gear icon switches to a plaintext + BBCode edit field.
 

mxnerd

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I don't use that Insert link button.

What I did was after posting the link in plain text, anandtech forum would automatically add
Code:
[URL unfurl="true"] and [/URL ]
for the URL, I then went back and edited the URL code so the link changed

Code:
from
[URL unfurl="true"]https://www.ibm.com/[/URL]

to
[URL unfurl="false"]https://www.ibm.com/[/URL]


https://www.ibm.com/

for youtube, you paste the link in plain text then add the unfurl tags

https://youtu.be/9oFLmdix_mE?t=79

or you just use the method for everything.
 
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Ichinisan

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I don't use that Insert link button.

What I did was after posting the link in plain text, anandtech forum would automatically add
Code:
[URL unfurl="true"] and [/URL ]
for the URL, I then went back and edited the URL code so the link changed

Code:
from
[URL unfurl="true"]https://www.ibm.com/[/URL]

to
[URL unfurl="false"]https://www.ibm.com/[/URL]


https://www.ibm.com/

for youtube, you paste the link in plain text then add the unfurl tags

https://youtu.be/9oFLmdix_mE?t=79

or you just use the method for everything.

Testing to see if the first part of the URL string affects the parsing filter on this forum.

Code:
[URL unfurl="false"]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9oFLmdix_mE?t=79[/URL]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9oFLmdix_mE?t=79


Code:
[URL unfurl="false"]https://youtu.be/9oFLmdix_mE?t=79[/URL]
https://youtu.be/9oFLmdix_mE?t=79
 

Ichinisan

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WHY IS THIS STILL SO BROKEN?

Test:
Code:
[url="https://i.imgur.com/4TZtoHCl.jpg"]received 1[/url]
[url="https://i.imgur.com/wWtkghUl.jpg"]received 2[/url]
[url="https://i.imgur.com/K56mWhil.jpg"]received 3[/url]
[url="https://i.imgur.com/MpCGcVZl.jpg"]received 4[/url]
[url="https://i.imgur.com/DgEa2H2l.jpg"]received 5[/url]

Result:
received 1
received 2
received 3
received 4
received 5

Try clicking the links! It simply drops ".jpg" from the URL!

I tried to be courteous by linking to the "l.jpg" (that's a letter "L") version of each image because high-DPI phones make absurdly large screenshots.

After hours of headaches trying to get my post to display correctly, I tested again just now with full-size images.

Test:
Code:
[url="https://i.imgur.com/4TZtoHC.jpg"]received 1[/url]
[url="https://i.imgur.com/wWtkghU.jpg"]received 2[/url]
[url="https://i.imgur.com/K56mWhi.jpg"]received 3[/url]
[url="https://i.imgur.com/MpCGcVZ.jpg"]received 4[/url]
[url="https://i.imgur.com/DgEa2H2.jpg"]received 5[/url]

Result:
received 1
received 2
received 3
received 4
received 5

This forum to drops the ".jpg" from the URL if I link to whateverl.jpg, but does not do that when I link to whatever.jpg
 

mxnerd

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WHY IS THIS STILL SO BROKEN?
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This forum to drops the ".jpg" from the URL if I link to whateverl.jpg, but does not do that when I link to whatever.jpg

Again, it's probably forum's editor unique issue with Firefox.
1st set of links: 1st link is OK, but broken for 2th-5th images​
2nd set of links: 1-4 images are OK, but broken because you were missing the dot "." for ".jpg" Your link was hxxps://i.imgur.com/DgEa2H2ljpg​

Chrome is fine for all links except the link that missed the dot.


Of course you can't force every user to use Chrome or Chrome based browsers to view the forum, but it is what it is however.

Don't know if a forum software (Xenforo) upgrade can solve the issue.
 
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CZroe

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Again, it's probably forum's editor unique issue with Firefox.
1st set of links: 1st link is OK, but broken for 2th-5th images​
2nd set of links: 1-4 images are OK, but broken because you were missing the dot "." for ".jpg" Your link was hxxps://i.imgur.com/DgEa2H2ljpg​

Chrome is fine for all links except the link that missed the dot.


Of course you can't force every user to use Chrome or Chrome based browsers to view the forum, but it is what it is however.

Don't know if a forum software (Xenforo) upgrade can solve the issue.
He doesn't even use Forefox. He uses Chrome, Safari, and iOS Safari. Not sure where you got the idea that it's a Firefox thing. It's a "forum breaks stuff for no reason because it stupidly thinks it should handle certain URLs differently" thing.
 

mxnerd

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He doesn't even use Forefox. He uses Chrome, Safari, and iOS Safari. Not sure where you got the idea that it's a Firefox thing. It's a "forum breaks stuff for no reason because it stupidly thinks it should handle certain URLs differently" thing.

OK. So it's probably problems from imgur.com. OP better find a more reliable alternative.

I cleared cache of Chrome & Firefox and retested. I also load Link Redirect Trace extension/add-on for both browsers. And now none of the 1st set links work for both browsers, all links got redirected and got errors. 2nd set all got redirected correctly except the 5th link which missed the dot "." like I said earlier.

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Also found that if I right click the link and open the image in Incognito mode then the image shows up correctly, if I right click the link and open in a new tab or new window, then it got same error as left clicking the link.

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mxnerd

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All my previously working embedded images are now broken.

I'm getting this error when trying to embed images from my own server.

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Here's a link to an image file where the IMG tags now fail.



You need to upgrade your server with a SSL certificate and update all links with https

Single image link will open in a new tab and still works since it's not considered as mixed contents.

Chrome does not allow mixed contents in web pages any more, however. Looks like Anandtech forum also does not allow img link that's not https.

 
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mxnerd

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Random image from imgur.com with https

Code:
https://i.imgur.com/ytLOol1.jpg

ytLOol1.jpg


Got the same "image can not be loaded from the passed link" error as yours if I try to link that eagle photo from your server, however.
 
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Amol S.

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I think this issue could get fixed if we converted this forum into a forum board like view similar to Reddit, but using Wiki Commons software instead. Wiki Markup from what I know, gives a lot of control over how the posted content would like to the poster. The only problem is, to really get the full power of it, once has to understand the Wiki Markup language.

Another option is to go back to how the forums use to work using phpBB as the forum engine, although I do remember the reason why it was switched to this was because there were other problems with phpBB that users were encountering. At the same time however, phpBB does give more control over how the posted content will look like when posted.
 

Amol S.

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I can't make the YouTube time stamp link work in this thread:

It always converts to a MEDIA tag and embeds the video, with no time stamp. No matter what.
Code:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rbHxeOQA1Mc#t=8m20s

Test:

...that's what it did when I tapped "insert link" and pasted the full URL into both fields.
Talking about time stamp. If you try to play the image directly in AT Forums as an embedded video and not open up the YouTube link, it will ironically strip away all ads even. I have never seen an embedded ad from an embedded YouTube video here.
 

Amol S.

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OK. So it's probably problems from imgur.com. OP better find a more reliable alternative.

I cleared cache of Chrome & Firefox and retested. I also load Link Redirect Trace extension/add-on for both browsers. And now none of the 1st set links work for both browsers, all links got redirected and got errors. 2nd set all got redirected correctly except the 5th link which missed the dot "." like I said earlier.

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Also found that if I right click the link and open the image in Incognito mode then the image shows up correctly, if I right click the link and open in a new tab or new window, then it got same error as left clicking the link.

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Loads a blank page, no 404 or any error. It looks almost like about blank. When I go into Developer Options, and go under network tab it says 404. Now, when I go on private view, the same thing. When I add .jpg, it says that the image has been removed. Same thing in private mode.
 

Amol S.

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There is a reason why I use the "Developer Edition" of Firefox, it can tell you things that other browsers may not.
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It won't show the link, I did not try to embed anything, but instead the forum software decided to embed it itself. It seems that this is not because of anything related to the browser or forum software, but rather imgur does not (or no longer) allows it's images to load embedded from an external source.
 

mxnerd

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It's possible that imgur.com never liked that users use direct links to image files.
 

Amol S.

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It's possible that imgur.com never liked that users use direct links to image files.
Then that is bad news, because AT Forum devs do not like iframes in user posts. Otherwise one can go around all of the restrictions imgur have in place about embedding images from their website. You can use the actually embed code then instead, if AT Forum allowed users to use the iframe html tag.

Although I do know why they don't want users to have the ability to use iframe, as it basically would be opening a big security loophole and web threat to all users on the forums. For example, the iframe could have it's source page tagged as a link to virus total's website download page for a virus.