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TBC

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Is it just me or is Hotmail getting a ton of spam anymore? I rarely ever use my hotmail account to sign up for stuff on web pages.

I set the spam filter in hotmail, and it worked for a while, but now it doesn't seem to block anything anymore. I get far more spam with hotmail than any other email account.

I hate to give up on my hotmail account, as I really think it has the best web based user interface of any.

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UPDATE: sorry about posting this in the wrong forum. Although I was pretty sure I had posted this in the general forum.

As for the comment below saying Duh!... well I would say the same back to you. Its not expected to have your email provider spamming you. If that were the case then all the free email accounts I have would be doing it. Duh.
 

RDMustang1

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I use yahoo for web mail. I use hotmail for accounts I know will be spammed and I don't care (I don't check it). I get like 2-3 junk mails from yahoo a week compared to the 3-4 a day from hotmail. So just forget your hotmail account and either use Yahoo or get a non-free email account.
 

OneStepAhead

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TBC, Micro$oft GAVE your e-mail address to its partners, and they are the ones SENDING you the spam, and M$ will receice a COMMISH if you buy, so do you REALLY expect them to block their own spam?

Well, DUH!!!

 

reboos

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i got a Hotmail account, never gave it away to a soul, just joined so I could use Messenger. Well anyway it gets about 5 junk emails a day, even XXX ones and everything. Pretty crazy if you ask me.
 

katka

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Never got spam until I registered with Directron.com. If you buy from them and don't want spam use the spam motel or the like.
 

chrisbest01

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if my knowledge base serve me right, it's the hotmail service itself. ppl write a script to generate these mail to spam the hotmail server, it's not MS gave out their emails to the partners like OneStepAhead clamed. I had sign up hotmail using @msn.com, no spam mail, not even once. but don't count on it on the newly signup one, because i think the new @msn.com locate in the hotmail server.
 

DealLurker

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> TBC, Micro$oft GAVE your e-mail address to its partners, and they are the ones SENDING you the spam, and M$ will receice a COMMISH if you buy, so do you REALLY expect them to block their own spam?

BS!



"Hotmail and why it's spammed so much"

1) Microsoft has NOT sold your account information. That is NOT why you're spammed.

2) Hotmail is the widest used free e-mail account.

3) Spammers now perform "domain substitution" with known "good" email addresses from anywhere else in the world.

4) This means that you can sign up for most any big service (e.g. MSN, AOL, HOTMAIL, and yes, even Yahoo! mail) and within a few minutes, you may be receiving boatloads of spam



I personally have 3 Hotmail accounts.

1 is spammed beyond belief (about 50 messages per day, 10 in the inbox, 40 in the filtered junk mail folder)

The other two have ZERO messages, other than test ones I've sent from other places, after owning them for OVER a year.



Here's the problem.

1) You sign up 4 years ago with your tiny ISP, and lets say your name is "joeblow". Your old email address was "joeblow@littletownisp.com"

2) You started posting to the internet or buying/selling on eBay. You started getting spam at that account.

3) Last year you signed up for a hotmail account. You named it "joeblow@hotmail.com"

4) Within minutes or even a few weeks later, you started to receive spam mail there, yet never posted your email address.



Why? The spammers knew that "joeblow@littletownisp.com" worked, so they figured, why not try to spam you at "joeblow@hotmail.com" and "joeblow@aol.com" and "joeblow@msn.com" and "joeblow@prodigy.net".



I signed up for a MSN account and within 5 minutes I had 4 spam mails. I was getting 100 a day there, and never gave it out. MS can't "Sell" your account name to a spammer THAT fast, even if they did.



Basically, you now have to create an account at one of the free sites (or MSN or AOL even) that has NEVER been used before ANYWHERE.

My accounts are something like this: [myfirstname]65[mylastname]ABC@hotmail.com.

I have NEVER received a single spam there at all. But my account of [myfirstname][mylastname]@hotmail.com is spammed.




Why doesn't the spam filter work? The generic spam filter works by putting into the junk folder anything that isn't SPECIFICALLY addressed to you. Spammers now have gotten smart and now put your email address in the To: line, therefore Hotmail's filter doesn't catch it.

That's all.


Until we go to PAY TO SEND email, spam will continue to get worse. The only way around it is never to reuse your prefix on another domain once you start getting spammed on a main one. (Or switch to a small ISP, if any still exist).