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[Mloot]

Why the he** is everyone (aside from a rare few in this thread) jumping on Felix? Is it because they're jealous that they don't have the same kind of funds to spend on just a processor? And why do alot of folks want to try to "prove" their superiority by pointing out that they may get similar (or perhaps better, in a few cases) performance out of their cheaper CPU's? If Felix wants to spend his hard-earned cash on an EE, then it's his decision and it's no reason for others to bust his chops. If I was able to overclock a P4 (let alone an EE, were I fortunate enough to own one) to near 4ghz on air alone, I would want to share my joy, too.

I try to maintain a level head on this board (which is why I don't visit the Politics/News forum), but this kind of thead-crapping just really pi**es me off and lowers the overall quality of these (otherwise excellent) forums.

 

[omniviper]

Ahhh... another p4 EE user here I see. I just got mine, at a bargain though. My rich cousin wanted to go for AMD so he sold me his p4 3.4 EE for 500. A nice lump of money which i was saving for the fx but I didnt want to have to swap mobos and other components just for the AMD.

Anyway felix, just a few q, I've been trying to push my EE past the 4 barrier but it seems that it isnt capabale of doing that. Best stable oclcok i had was 3.93 @ 1.6750. Maybe i should pump up the voltages more... Can you tell me the batch and number of your proc? Thanks man. And uhhh... EE rocks? There are so little EE users around here, like 3 at my last count.

 

[Imyourzero]

Originally posted by: omniviper
There are so little EE users around here, like 3 at my last count.

That's because most people know you can get 95% of the EE's performance while spending 1/2 or 1/3 as much on a CPU.

BUT, I'm not here to bust anyone's chops that owns an EE. I would spend my money more wisely, but I understand some people like to brag about having what they consider the best...and at any rate, if I was running an EE at nearly 4 GHz I'd be one happy camper too. Even though you can have similar performance of the EE with other CPU's when the EE is stock, when the EE is running at 3.9 GHz I would think it pulls ahead of the pack.

 

[omniviper]

Originally posted by: Imyourzero

Originally posted by: omniviper
There are so little EE users around here, like 3 at my last count.

That's because most people know you can get 95% of the EE's performance while spending 1/2 or 1/3 as much on a CPU.

BUT, I'm not here to bust anyone's chops that owns an EE. I would spend my money more wisely, but I understand some people like to brag about having what they consider the best...and at any rate, if I was running an EE at nearly 4 GHz I'd be one happy camper too. Even though you can have similar performance of the EE with other CPU's when the EE is stock, when the EE is running at 3.9 GHz I would think it pulls ahead of the pack.

agreed. Hahha if you look at what i wrote, my friend was selling his 3.4 EE for 500 clams. An fx-53 cost what? 600-700 clams plus I have to change my board and reinstall everyting all over again. With the p4 EE, at least its the proc that I have to change only. So its pretty much cost effective to me. I would go AMD if that oppurtunity did not come but such a deal is too good to pass man. Besides, being the minority isnt such a bad thing. I like it. ahahha

 

[toneman]

Geez, it seems that some of you who posted in this thread decided for whatever reason to turn this thread into a pissing contest, ostensibly to increase your post-whore counts; either that or to compensate for a lack of self-esteem. The original poster (Felix) posted his results as strictly that--results. Nowhere did I read or interpret his initial post as such that he did so (post the results) just to say that his setup is the best one out there or that it'll blow away most AMD setups. Why some people find the need to crap on this particular thread by saying that their stock and less-expensive AMD setup will beat Felix's OC P4 EE setup is beyond me. So what if your less-than-spectacular system can still beat his--do you want people to bow down to you or something? Okay, so your setup is better than someone elses'--more power to you, I say.

Felix--right on! I know I'd be happy with a setup like that, regardless of what other people have to say.

 

[jefbak]

Um, I have a 3.2ee machine and a 3.2c 512 machine. My 3.2c 512 is OC to 3.4ghz and still cannot out perform my non OC'ed 3.2ee. In video editing, which is what I do the ee makes a huge diffence in performance. That is in the real world, that is.

 

[caz67]

Woo Hoo another member of the EE Brotherhood..!!!

 

[orion7144]

Originally posted by: jefbak
Um, I have a 3.2ee machine and a 3.2c 512 machine. My 3.2c 512 is OC to 3.4ghz and still cannot out perform my non OC'ed 3.2ee. In video editing, which is what I do the ee makes a huge diffence in performance. That is in the real world, that is.

AMEN!

 

[toneman]

Originally posted by: jefbak
Um, I have a 3.2ee machine and a 3.2c 512 machine. My 3.2c 512 is OC to 3.4ghz and still cannot out perform my non OC'ed 3.2ee. In video editing, which is what I do the ee makes a huge diffence in performance. That is in the real world, that is.

How much narrower is the difference between your 3.2ee and 3.2c if you OC the 3.2c to 3.52ghz/880 FSB?

 

[Tasque]

When the 865, 875 chipsets came out, I had to start from scratch and all I could afford at that time was a 2.4C - I have no regrets, it has never disappointed me. I decided that for this generation I'd go with the very best intel had to offer.

If AMD owners think they have better processors they should just be happy that they can score higher in their benchmarks without having to spend as much. Good for them.

I have just ordered a socket 775 3.4EE from Newegg. It's cost me quite a bit but it's just a bit strange to me how there are virtually no benchamrks for multitasking out there... i.e. playing a game with sound effects only enabled, playing some mp3s, having emule running and trillian as well...

I don't 'just' play games, and I don't play them 24/7. Spending a grand on a processor might be ridiculous for some. But the FX-53 costs just about 200 less and that is still a lot to pay for something that is only useful for gaming and whose chipset support is pathetic. Compare SATA RAID on intel and nvidia platforms...

I have no interest in overclocking, if you're not happy with the stock performance of an extreme edition then.... I don't know....

 

[natto fire]

Kind of funny how some people are defending Felix in regards to thread crapping and yet he did the same thing in this thread.

Congrats on the overclock, have fun with the chip. :thumbsup:

 

[Budman]

link.

 

[FelixDeCat]

Originally posted by: Budman
link.

:roll:

 

[FelixDeCat]

Originally posted by: Captain_Howdy
Kind of funny how some people are defending Felix in regards to thread crapping and yet he did the same thing in this thread.

Congrats on the overclock, have fun with the chip. :thumbsup:

Thats right - Im the man. Id be interested to see how a 775 oc's however.

 

[Adn4n]

That is a sweet overclock felix, especially on air. Tomshardware.com has nitrogen cooling at temperatures of -50C, yes negative, and they couldn't run 4.0Ghz stably. 3.9Ghz was max, and you did that with air cooling. Props to you, and cheers.

 

[MDE]

Originally posted by: Tasque
I don't 'just' play games, and I don't play them 24/7. Spending a grand on a processor might be ridiculous for some. But the FX-53 costs just about 200 less and that is still a lot to pay for something that is only useful for gaming and whose chipset support is pathetic. Compare SATA RAID on intel and nvidia platforms...

I find your comment on FX chipset support slightly ridiculous. What's wrong with the K8T800 Pro or nForce3 250Gb?

 

[Markfw]

Originally posted by: MDE

Originally posted by: Tasque
I don't 'just' play games, and I don't play them 24/7. Spending a grand on a processor might be ridiculous for some. But the FX-53 costs just about 200 less and that is still a lot to pay for something that is only useful for gaming and whose chipset support is pathetic. Compare SATA RAID on intel and nvidia platforms...

I find your comment on FX chipset support slightly ridiculous. What's wrong with the K8T800 Pro or nForce3 250Gb?

I wan to know also..

 

[clarkey01]

To the guy whop defended felix about buying this Chip because we were all too poor and just Jealous, here's this.

Whats the point in spending almost 50% more for a chip that only performs about 5-10 faster then say a 3.2Ghz, 3000+, 3200+ ? at leats the FX is around the 700/800 mark ( and performs and scales better), and is not in the 1000 ball park.

Shoot me down and i spose will learn something, atleast I'll hold my hands up and say " Yeah I see your point", Felix and his last thread " why would any one go AMD" just sums up how closed minded he is. As an AMD fan I wouldnt turn my nose up @ Intel if they had a better performing chip for my games and college work I do then AMD at a lower price.

 

[Mik3y]

oh great, not again...

 

[clarkey01]

we dont have to flame, I just want to make a point mik3y, I believe you had the same view as me on the last thread...ah well.

 

[Zebo]

P4 3.4EE@ 3.9EE, 2 gig PC4000, fx5600 blah blah blah
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= I can't play games worth a (*&^. Maybe if you had'nt blew your wad on a CPU you'd have a system that can play games. My 05 marks are probably higher than your 03' maybe even 01 LOL Text Also my CPU marks are within 5% for 1000% less money spent. Folks this is the kind of people Intel stock holders love.



To the guy whop defended felix about buying this Chip because we were all too poor and just Jealous, here's this.
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Those "guys" are just stupid. As I said earlier thier choice is totally deviod of any cost/benefit analysis and they love paying a premium because it sets them apart, refined and special and there is a definite sense of community because they know that the vast majority of people have not invested as much money into their computers.

Which would you rather be stupid or have sense enough to follow the basic laws of economics and cost pricing and use excess cash for things that acrue in value instead of a CPU which depreciates faster than anything?

Besides by those "guys" logic, thier not that rich or they would'nt be building thier own. Alienware makes some nice WC P4EE boxen that thier too poor to buy. (which I can beat for 500% less money)

 

[Tasque]

Onboard Raid is better on Intel chipset.
There is better DDR compatability on Intel Platforms.
PCI-Express ? Hahahaha...not just for graphics, but RAID Cards....

I don't give a fuc* if you guys can't afford it. Don't hate the player, hate the game.

 

[Tasque]

slightly ridiculous... thank god, glad it's not 100% ridiculous.

I have to write subtitles and encode Anime so that the masses can leech them on bittorrent. Encoding + Storage + Stability are crucial for me. I seriously doubt I'd be able to get things done anywhere near as efficiently on an AMD platform.

Also, the comparisons between Inteland AMD are not fair. They shouldn't compare chipsets just because they run at DDR400, they should compare them based on what's available. It may not sound fair, but we can't neglect the fact that DDR2 is out there....

AFAIK, SUPERMICRO Make the best motherboards out there.... Just look at the layout of their boards.... They don't support a single AMD chip. So you see guys, I don't have that big a choice when chossing a processor.

 

[Tasque]

While the AMD board manufacturers figure out a way to get PCI-Express to work on the AMD platform, are they going to do comparisons with first generation intel PCI-Express solutions like 925, 915?

Tomshardware and Anandtech compare the P4C800-E deluxe with chips that have only just been released....what's up with that?

 

[FelixDeCat]

Originally posted by: Adn4n
That is a sweet overclock felix, especially on air. Tomshardware.com has nitrogen cooling at temperatures of -50C, yes negative, and they couldn't run 4.0Ghz stably. 3.9Ghz was max, and you did that with air cooling. Props to you, and cheers.

You know, I think the motherboard is the secret.