Please help with my Serial HD and WinXP

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xodius

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ok that link...it took me to a download and the SATA it too big for a floppy. I tried to install on 2 and it will not work either. URGH. I am ready to just shoot my computer.
 

Woody419

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PATA = ATA = IDE. Where the damn "P" came from I have no idea. It wasn't there a year ago, now everyone uses it.
 

xodius

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LMAO. Well let me ask you this....

My old HD is a ATA, Seagate 160 GB....it runs slow though. If I dr5op it in, it will be reformated...rightt? SO then I should not have to worry about any viruses or anything like that correct??

Then I could install all this other crap for SATA and eventually pull the ATA...right?? Maybe, lol
 

mechBgon

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"PATA" means Parallel ATA, the regular type of hard-drive interface with wide ribbon cables. You might want to grab a free 30-day trial of Kaspersky Antivirus Personal 5 from http://www.kaspersky.com/trials, it's quite good. You can also get free 15-day trials of Norton Antivirus 2005 from here, and McAfee VirusScan 9.0 from here. Given what you just said about your infection problem, I think defintely do Service Pack 2 and also look at the ongoing-prevention suggestions I put up on that page where I talk about wormproofing.

One other tip: make a little .bat batchfile that contains these commands, and put it in C:\Documents And Settings\All Users\Start Menu\Programs\Startup:

net share c$ /delete
net share d$ /delete
net share e$ /delete
net share ipc$ /delete
net share admin$ /delete
exit

This would delete your administrative shares upon each bootup, further reducing the attack options for worms and Trojans.
 

mechBgon

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Originally posted by: xodius
ok that link...it took me to a download and the SATA it too big for a floppy. I tried to install on 2 and it will not work either. URGH. I am ready to just shoot my computer.
Only put on the folder for WinXP and leave the other folders off of the floppy.

My old HD is a ATA, Seagate 160 GB....it runs slow though. If I dr5op it in, it will be reformated...rightt? SO then I should not have to worry about any viruses or anything like that correct??
If you do that route, then one modification:

1) run Windows Setup far enough to where it shows the partitions. Delete all the partitions, and then exit Windows Setup by pressing the F3 key twice.

2) now start Windows Setup a second time, and this time go all the way through the routine. This prevents you having two WindowsXP's to choose from during boot-up and makes sure the ghosts are gone :)

Then I could install all this other crap for SATA and eventually pull the ATA...right??
Not without some third-party software, but it wouldn't be the end of the world if the 160GB drive is your boot drive either.
 

Woody419

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Originally posted by: xodius
ok that link...it took me to a download and the SATA it too big for a floppy. I tried to install on 2 and it will not work either. URGH. I am ready to just shoot my computer.

Whoa, you are right. I just downloaded the files and looked inside, what a mess. Looks like you will have to find the drivers on the motherboard install disk. Look for a Silicone Image or RAID folder under drivers or something and find the XP folder with the SATA/RAID drivers inside. Then copy those to floppy.
 

Jexx

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The P stands for Paralell ATA, S stands for Serial ATA.

As for the drivers you need to extract the downloaded file and copy the files from the dir containg the txtsetup.oem file (copy dir contense not the dir to the floppy) there are 2 version of the driver one if your using raid Si33112r and the non-raid version Si3112.
 

Woody419

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Originally posted by: mechBgon
Only put on the folder for WinXP and leave the other folders off of the floppy.
I thought that too, but the files are an install.exe and *.cab files. Not what you would expect, the files install the RAID drivers into an existing Windows setup. Very, very dumb setup. Looks like the only usuable SATA files are on the mb disk.

 

mechBgon

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Originally posted by: Woody419
Originally posted by: mechBgon
Only put on the folder for WinXP and leave the other folders off of the floppy.
I thought that too, but the files are an install.exe and *.cab files. Not what you would expect, the files install the RAID drivers into an existing Windows setup. Very, very dumb setup. Looks like the only usuable SATA files are on the mb disk.
Ooops! :eek:

What's wierd is that this motherboard would need drivers for the native nVidia SATA controller when some don't. I picked up a Seagate 7200.8 SATA drive for mass storage purposes for my work rig, and for the heck of it I installed WinXP Pro x64 Edition RC2 onto it on my nF3 250GB board (Asus K8N-E Deluxe) to try out Win64 a little. No drivers needed, it mimicked a PATA drive. The performance is still not as good as my old Cheetah 15k.3 but it does have over 10x the capacity... tradeoffs, tradeoffs...

 

Woody419

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Got-em. Inside the Si3112 folder is ANOTHER Si3112 folder WITH THE DRIVERS!
What the heck, just copy everything except the DriverLanuageMap.xml to a floppy and you are good to go.

And don't forget to read and print out the directions from my first post. The directions are in PDF format so you will need Acrobat Reader.
 

mechBgon

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Originally posted by: Woody419
Got-em. Inside the Si3112 folder is ANOTHER Si3112 folder WITH THE DRIVERS!
What the heck, just copy everything except the DriverLanuageMap.xml to a floppy and you are good to go.
If you're having him use the SI drivers then we better get him to plug the drive into the SI controller. I had him on the nVidia controller since it's not jammed on to the overcrowded PCI bus.
 

Woody419

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Then he needs the nVidia controller too.

Inside the expanded Chipset driver 23MB download is:
NC8S\IDE\WinXP
with the drivers.

The same folder is probably on the mb disk.
 

Boztech

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I'll say one thing, this is definitely turning me off on the Gigabyte boards I was looking at for my nF4 system. :confused:
 

mechBgon

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Originally posted by: Boztech
I'll say one thing, this is definitely turning me off on the Gigabyte boards I was looking at for my nF4 system. :confused:
Hehe... now you see why I don't have a quick simple SATA-installation section in my Newbie Guide, huh? :D *whaps Gigabyte upside the head with a floppy cable*
 

Woody419

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My ASUS A8V Deluxe disk has a MakeDisk.exe for both the Promise and VIARAID drivers. I wouldn't be surprised if xodius finally finds the same MakeDisk file if he looked hard enough on the Gigabyte disk.
 

Boztech

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Originally posted by: mechBgon
Hehe... now you see why I don't have a quick simple SATA-installation section in my Newbie Guide, huh? :D *whaps Gigabyte upside the head with a floppy cable*

Well you could show the physical installation of the drive without having to go into the software install side of things.

After all it is a computer assembly guide, not an O/S installation guide.
 

mechBgon

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Originally posted by: Boztech
Originally posted by: mechBgon
Hehe... now you see why I don't have a quick simple SATA-installation section in my Newbie Guide, huh? :D *whaps Gigabyte upside the head with a floppy cable*

Well you could show the physical installation of the drive without having to go into the software install side of things.

After all it is a computer assembly guide, not an O/S installation guide.
I promise to add that much, yeah... maybe later this week I'll have a bit of free time to tear open my work rig and shoot some photos of my new SATA drive, cable and mobo fittings :)
 

xodius

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AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

Ok....

Just got back form Dinner and I am going to try it again. I do have to say that out of all the forums I have been on and this one has been the most help! I think I have found my regular board finally.

The only reason I picked this MB is because I know very little about them. Well, I should say I know enough to be dangerous. My old MB was a Asus and I loved it...until it went a little nutty. It might still be good so I will mess with that in an old case I have and see how it goes. My GF's MB is a ECS and it is ok. Good enough. THe one I used on my Moms is a Soyo and I really like that one but they do not make a 939 board so I was SOL. THe Asus was an option but I was not sure what would be a good one and th eforums I tried no one could tell me anything about them.

I will post back in a little bit and let you know if the load works. I sure hope it does. I am having withdrawls of games. One of my only ways I relax after work...well that and a nice cold Beer...mmmmm Beer.
 

xodius

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Ok you will like this. I opened the Chipset drivers and there are a couple of files in there for SATA. This excited me. I formated a copuple of floppies and pasted the files over. THen when I tried to install them it says that the txtsetup.oem could not be found but when I look at the floppies with the other PC they are there....Next thought?
 

xodius

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Well I did that and I installed 2 files or drivers and it still does not recognize the thing. It is a Seagate 120 GB model # ST3120827AS

I installed the 3112 and the 3112r but they didnt work...I am clueless. Please help.
 

xodius

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Well I did that and I installed 2 files or drivers and it still does not recognize the thing. It is a Seagate 120 GB model # ST3120827AS

I installed the 3112 and the 3112r but they didnt work...I am clueless. Please help.
 

mechBgon

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I installed the 3112 and the 3112r but they didnt work...I am clueless.
Those drivers are for the Silicon Image SATA controller, which controls only the SATA jacks at the bottom edge of the board. I wouldn't use it except as a last resort since it shares the PCI bus with about eleventeen other bandwidth-sucking devices, I'd use the upper SATA jacks that are operated by the nVidia controller. That means having the nVidia drivers, not the SI 3112 drivers.

Anyway, you're making headway, you've got the driver-on-floppy routine figured out. Now for the correct drivers. :)
 

xodius

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we will see. I will mess with it in the morning. Had a long day at work. I am starting to get some serious withdrawls from the puter....I need my far cry and Doom 3, lol.
 

FP

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If you don't want to pay for your virus scanning software and you are using it for personal use, I highly recommend AVG Free.

Link

I have been using it for the last few years and enjoyed it so much I bought the Professional version just because I wanted to support their cause... Give it a try...

Oh one more thing... BE SURE the computer you are copying these driver files from is virus free, otherwise your floppy will most likely transfer the virus to your new drive. Even just putting the floppy in an infected computer will infect the floppy.
 

Hardlin

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If all the other suggestions don't work, try booting with just one stick of RAM. I had the same problem with my DFI board until I removed my second stick of RAM. Once I did that, XP install would see the drive and install. After the system was installed, I put the second module back in and everything was fine. I was using the built in nForce SATA controller.