PLEASE HELP!! FIRST BUILD POSTING PROBS! ECS 790GX BLACK SERIES!

[Aztecha]

Hi Everyone!

I just put together my first build 2 nights ago and was uber excited! I saved for almost 4 months to get this thing together and was siked!

I put everything in and hooked everything up and got a "NO SIGNAL" message on my monitor. WTF??? I tried using DVI via my GPU and also tried via VGA & HDMI on my MOBO...and still nothing!

I tried booting up the pc with just the CPU GPU and RAM...still nothing.

I even tried it with CPU and 1 stick of ram in a different slot! NOTHING!!

I even tried reseating the CPU checking to see if any of the pins were bent...all were straight as an arrow!

And after that I even took my MOBO and PSU out of the case and set them on a table and tried to boot, thinking that the MOBO might my grounding itself to the case...but NOPE STILL no POST no BIOS NO NOTHING! My monitor dosent even ackwoledge that its hooked up to it!

And I am positive that my Monitor works its a Gateway FHD2401, I use it with my PS3 via HDMI almost daily! and have used DVI & VGA connections through it countless times before with my laptop and what not.

I bought everything from NEwegg naturally!...and have since called ECS my MOBO company and the guy told me that m MOBO was faulty. I did everything that he told me to do and half of the things I had already done! NO POST NO BEEP NO NOTHING!


I have notified NEwegg and they have approved an RMA..and have sent labels and what not and if all still goes this way I will proceed to send it out on MOnday for a replacement.

But heres my question guys do you think that its really my MOBO? I mean I dont wanna get it back and have a simmilar problem ya know? I mean waiting 4 months for something and then putting it together only to find that it dosent work is a HUGE BLOW. I was crushed.

Please PLease PLease give me some insight on this If I can possibly do something or try something else that might make something work so that I can have my brand nnew PC now instead of a week later I'LL DO ANYTHING!!!..or maybe it is my MOBO? I just wanna know that IM doing the right thing!


Here are my specs

Phenom II X2 550 Callisto 3.1GHZ Dual Core

ECS 790GXM-AD3 " BLACK SERIES"

4 gigs of Crucial Balistix Tracer DDR3 1333

AZZA 650w Dynamo

Sapphire HD 4890 TOXIC @ 960MHZ

Seagate Barracuda 500G 7200 RPM SATA

LITE ON SATA DVD/CD Burner

And Vista Home Premium 64bit...though as you can tell never for the friggin chance to install it.

ABS/TAGAN El Diablo Case.

Any Help would be greatly appreciated.

 

[AznAnarchy99]

Simple questions but did you make sure you had all the PCIe power cables hooked into your video card and did you try resetting CMOS?

 

[Aztecha]

Hey Thanks for the reply! and Affirmative! on both of those questions!

I reset CMOS multiple times and nothing. NO BEEPS no matter what I did!

 

[BTRY B 529th FA BN]

Sometimes you just gotta wait that little bit longer.

 

[Aztecha]

Meaning.........Wait longer when clearing CMOS or wait longer for new MOBO?

just trying to make sense of it.

Tyz for reply

 

[BTRY B 529th FA BN]

The worse of the two. It's happened to me also, it sucks waiting...

 

[Aztecha]

So you think that its the MOBO for sure then bro?....I was thinking the same just trying to conjure up some feeble hope ya know? that imfamous "what if" factor hehehehhe. Well I'm gonna send it out tomorrow.

 

[BTRY B 529th FA BN]

I've been waiting to get my video editing machine up and configured correctly and its taken me about a month deciding which OS, which NLE, how to configure my drive setup, tests to see how Premiere Pro & AVCHD runs on my machine at stock settings... o yeah, its been a while. I think I just finally got my hard drive storage solution figured out...

It'll be under 2 weeks. Ask the vendor if they can ship the new one overnight or next day. New Egg offered to send me my replacement after UPS handed the Vraptor I bought sounded like every mechanical component broke during the shipping. Luckily i didn't go that route and saved the $$$ on a refund.... so just ship it out and wait it out, it's the only thing you can do.

In the meantime till tomorrow, if you have any friends that can loan you a PSU or some other component so you can cross check your parts, do so and continue trouble shooting.

 

[Spikesoldier]

no video 99.999999% of the time means either one (or more) of these components are at fault:

cpu
memory
vga card
mainboard

im willing to bet its the mainboard. you are attempting to use one stick of memory during this time right? do you have any known good working parts to sub in?

in my experience with ECS boards, recieving at least two DOA boards in a row is rather common.

 

[heyheybooboo]

Did you remove the vid card and try to boot with the IG ?

 

[Aztecha]

@ Spikesoldier..no I have no other working parts to throw in unfortunately. This is my first build and since have NO other parts.ANd I sure as hell hope that I dont recieve 2 DOA boards XD

@ heyheybooboo yes I tried that. I tried booting up the pc with just the CPU MOBO..thats it! no ram no anything and no memory mssgs no nothing. Then with 1 stick of ram and nothing.

 

[Beanie46]

Not to sound like a smart ass or anything, but part of your problem is simply ECS. You've chosen a bottom of the barrel motherboard maker, pure and simple. Return the piece of dung and get a decent brand like Gigabyte, Asus, EVGA, or even MSI (and I hate MSI!)

 

[Aztecha]

Hey man I appreciate the comment and I dont take you for a smart ass...you're just trying to help me and I appreciate it. I respect your opinion. But its just that!...you have had a horrible experience with ECS I feel for you! But there are also hundreds of ppl that have had positive ones!...I mean its like this 10 ppl stay at the same hotel

7 had exellent experiences, while the other 3 had feces rubbed all over their room's walls when they walked in!!!....ya get me?...


Brands are BRands they are all made in the same factory with most of the same components...just a different label slapped on em!

Its just like GPU's one of my pals had a horrible experience with ATI in the past and since then has always bought NVIDIA...however I have an uncle that builds PC's and has always used ATI without any probs ya get my drift?..Shit happens but just cuz shit happens to you dosent mean the entire line of products that the company produces is shit now does it?...



Thanks For your concern.

 

[tcsenter]

Originally posted by: Beanie46
Not to sound like a smart ass or anything, but part of your problem is simply ECS. You've chosen a bottom of the barrel motherboard maker, pure and simple. Return the piece of dung and get a decent brand like Gigabyte, Asus, EVGA, or even MSI (and I hate MSI!)

Brilliant. The last review for the comparable ASUS board is a DOA case. Counting only the five and four ratings, the ASUS board has 82% positive vs. 79% for the ECS, a difference of only 3%. The last three reviews for the comparable MSI board are all DOA.

Parroting comments may be a fun way to pass some time, but repeating them a billion times doesn't make it true.

 

[Aztecha]

TCSENTER!! U ROCK MAN!! thanks for getting those digits man!! totally awesome!


To TCSENTER:beer:

 

[Lunyone]

* Have you even considered that the PSU might be bad too? Never heard of AZZA PSU's
* Have you removed everything from the case and put on a non-conductive surface (cardboard works well)? This would eliminate any possible shorts that you may have on your mobo/case.

 

[Aztecha]

Yes I have considered it...but tis highly unlikely..one thing that I failed to mention is that everything lights up! all of my leds,fans,CPU fan, GPU fan,HDD is spinning and clicking,Optical drive is spining..not to mention fully functional. Even my MOBO's function was working...the power/reset buttons and the green led o the MOBO was on!


Also the reason why you've never heard of AZZA psu's is because the company has just debuted not long ago...read the reviews!!!...its not Rosewill...relax XD!..I've read alot of good thigns about my PSU.

And I really dont think that my PSU is underpowered for my system..its a 650w and I could get away with a 350-400w w/out my GPU and with my GPU 500w is req. So thats not an issue. And when my GPU isnt in use it underclocks and takes less power. Though I have never gotten to see this as I havent even been able to install Vista!..I would imagine that it would do so on 1st boot naturally! and even if it dosent say for some reason, say it runs FULL LOAD power even though there is no need the max I'd need is 500w TOTAL POWER..and of course it uses no where near to 500w on full load...just need to leave all of taht for system of course

I mean every GPU manufac..gives you MUCH MUCH higher PSU req's than you really need.
I mean I know a few ppl that are running this card with 450watts!!..and have had no probs!..but be that as it may to be safe I went for the 650w.

And yes I have tried the MOBO outside the case and stillnothing! I mentioned that in my original post

 

[cdx]

hi there. i just registered only to share infos.
i also using ECS brand, 790GXM-A. not the ddr3 version.
im using AM2+ 7750 black edition with 2GB of ddr2 800MHz Supertalent brand ram.
and my GPU is HIS ATi HD3870.

as what i know, (from the manual book) ram slot must be occupied referring to the manual properly : -
only use 3rd slot for single ram.
3rd and 4th slot for 2 pcs of ram.
and slot 1,3,4 for 3pcs of ram.
and of course, all slot for 4 pcs of ram.

pls check the ram section on the manual.
i think its just same as mine bcoz ECS780-Ultra also use the same method.

im using this system almost 4 month now.
working great but got issue with 4gb of ram = vista 32bit cannot load. it goes BSOD. same thing with win7 32bit.
4gb ram is okay if use winXP.
haven't try 64bit OS yet.

thats all for now.

 

[heyheybooboo]

Originally posted by: cdx
hi there. i just registered only to share infos.
i also using ECS brand, 790GXM-A. not the ddr3 version.
im using AM2+ 7750 black edition with 2GB of ddr2 800MHz Supertalent brand ram.
and my GPU is HIS ATi HD3870.

as what i know, (from the manual book) ram slot must be occupied referring to the manual properly : -
only use 3rd slot for single ram.
3rd and 4th slot for 2 pcs of ram.
and slot 1,3,4 for 3pcs of ram.
and of course, all slot for 4 pcs of ram.

pls check the ram section on the manual.
i think its just same as mine bcoz ECS780-Ultra also use the same method.

im using this system almost 4 month now.
working great but got issue with 4gb of ram = vista 32bit cannot load. it goes BSOD. same thing with win7 32bit.
4gb ram is okay if use winXP.
haven't try 64bit OS yet.

thats all for now.

:thumbsup:

You mean we have to read the manual?

 

[yh125d]

Cheapo motherboard manufacturer, cheapo PSU. Sounds like a DOA motherboard.


And the reason we haven't heard of Azza is cause they aren't very good. And no I don't need a review to tell me that. A "500w" that has the same 12v power as a quality 400w. Rated output is max, not continuous. No PFC or 80 plus certification. The story on the 650w isn't much different. Less power than a good 550w, No PFC or 80 plus. Don't try to fool us, you bought a cheapo

 

[cdx]

Originally posted by: heyheybooboo


:thumbsup:

You mean we have to read the manual?

manual tells everything.
just because we have basic or advance computer hardware knowledge, manuals always solve most of the problem.

and again, ECS 790GX mainboard require us to use 3rd ram slot for a single ram usage. (as per manual). this very same thing happen with my friends mainboard ECS 780GM-A ultra, black edition.

 

[cdx]

Originally posted by: yh125d
Cheapo motherboard manufacturer, cheapo PSU. Sounds like a DOA motherboard.


And the reason we haven't heard of Azza is cause they aren't very good. And no I don't need a review to tell me that. A "500w" that has the same 12v power as a quality 400w. Rated output is max, not continuous. No PFC or 80 plus certification. The story on the 650w isn't much different. Less power than a good 550w, No PFC or 80 plus. Don't try to fool us, you bought a cheapo

i haven't heard of azza brand PSU before. is it really that bad?
my ecs 790GXM-A only using enlight PSU 550watt with an ATI HD3870.
running vista32 SP2.

 

[yh125d]

It may not be the worst brand you can buy, but it's def not a good one

 

[cdx]

Originally posted by: yh125d
It may not be the worst brand you can buy, but it's def not a good one

thanks for info.
i should avoid it if i see it.

anyway, my ECS A790GXM-A can use 4gb ram on vista already.
ACPI problem, bios update soLve the problem.

what happen to thread starter? any update?

 

[deimos3428]

Originally posted by: Aztecha
Yes I have considered it...but tis highly unlikely..one thing that I failed to mention is that everything lights up! all of my leds,fans,CPU fan, GPU fan,HDD is spinning and clicking,Optical drive is spining..not to mention fully functional. Even my MOBO's function was working...the power/reset buttons and the green led o the MOBO was on!

This doesn't sound like a motherboard issue at all. It sounds like a display issue. Maybe I missed it, but what sort of display and connector type are you using? Is it known to work on another computer?

Check the cable for bent pins. Swap out the display (and cable) with another if you have the parts available. Ensure you're plugging into the correct port (ie. not plugging into the IGP when you're using the 4890, etc.) Also, wait at least 30 seconds after you power on...some displays are abysmally slow at detecting signal for various reasons.