please explain to me how iTunes isn't a scam

[Chiropteran]

I bought a song for the first time yesterday. I can listen to it on the computer I bought it from, but nowhere else. Is that working as intended?

Does Apple really expect people to pay money for music just to throw it all away when they upgrade to a new computer or reinstall the OS? Am I missing something here?

 

[AMDZen]

Pray4sure or whateverthefrickcrappyDRM Apple uses does have hacks out there. But yea that is how its intended, and dont try loading it on your zune/phone/other mp3 player, its iPod or nothing.

Pretty much all pay2play services suck balls, they only help to promote piracy IMO

 

[glutenberg]

There are converters out there that can convert their file formats to mp3.

 

[MrWizzard]

uh, burn to rewritable, then rip the rewritable........

 

[mcvickj]

You can have up to 5 computers authorized to listen to the purchased music. All you need to do is copy the files between one computer and the other. Make sure you de-authorize your computer before you reformat.

 

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[jlbenedict]

Originally posted by: glutenberg
There are converters out there that can convert their file formats to mp3.

aah.. yes.. because converting from one crap format to another crap format is the thing to do

 

[mundane]

Slashdot reported this morning from a BBC article,

Microsoft is one of the biggest exponents of DRM, which is used to protect music and video files on lots of different online services, including Napster and the Zune store. Blogger Michael Arrington, of Techcrunch.com, said Bill Gates' short-term advice for people wanting to transfer songs from one system to another was to 'buy a CD and rip it'. Most CDs do not have any copy protection and can be copied to a PC and to an MP3 player easily and, in the United States at least, legally.

 

[2Xtreme21]

Burn to CD and rip it back onto your hard drive.

OR there's a method which you set the Output on Winamp to waveout, set a location, play the iTunes song, and it will show up as a .wav file at the location you specify. Not absolutely sure about the specifics of that method, but I think it works.

 

[Pepsi90919]

it IS a scam

 

[jlbenedict]

Originally posted by: 2Xtreme21
Burn to CD and rip it back onto your hard drive.

OR there's a method which you set the Output on Winamp to waveout, set a location, play the iTunes song, and it will show up as a .wav file at the location you specify. Not absolutely sure about the specifics of that method, but I think it works.

I thought you couldn't burn DRM protected content to CD?

 

[mugs]

Sounds like a carbon-based interface error.

Or maybe a PEBKAC error

Or maybe the old ID-10T error.

In any event, not a scam.

 

[AMDZen]

Originally posted by: MrWizzard
uh, burn to rewritable, then rip the rewritable........

Originally posted by: jlbenedict

Originally posted by: glutenberg
There are converters out there that can convert their file formats to mp3.

aah.. yes.. because converting from one crap format to another crap format is the thing to do

Thats exactly what I was going to say to MrWizzard too. Burning and then ripping is only going to degrade quality further. And at 128kbps its already crappy enough.

Piracy FTW
*disclaimer: this post in no way advocates piracy, FTW means nothing and is not an acronym - piracy is wrong - ninjaz > piratez*

 

[Miramonti]

please explain to me how iTunes isn't a scam

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[imported_inspire]

I use emusic. It's simple enough. You pay for music, you own it.

 

[Yossarian]

Originally posted by: Chiropteran
Does Apple really expect people to pay money for music just to throw it all away when they upgrade to a new computer or reinstall the OS? Am I missing something here?

they're probably just momentarily confused by the 3 million downloads they provide every day

 

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[JackBurton]

I :heart: iTunes.

 

[ultimatebob]

I think that the Zune Marketplace is an even bigger scam. You can't even play those tunes on Windows Media Player, or any PlaysForSure device.

 

[DaWhim]

that's why I don't pay for intangibles.

 

[blackrod]

yes blackrod feels that drms are no good. blackrod feels that drm only hurts the legitimate end user. a person that will pirate music, movies or games will find a way to do it.

 

[JasonCoder]

Originally posted by: ultimatebob
I think that the Zune Marketplace is an even bigger scam. You can't even play those tunes on Windows Media Player, or any PlaysForSure device.

Damn, that is a rip. WTF?

 

[tfinch2]

Originally posted by: blackrod
yes blackrod feels that drms are no good. blackrod feels that drm only hurts the legitimate end user. a person that will pirate music, movies or games will find a way to do it.

stfu blackfraud

 

[AMDZen]

Originally posted by: blackrod
yes blackrod feels that drms are no good. blackrod feels that drm only hurts the legitimate end user. a person that will pirate music, movies or games will find a way to do it.

love the 3rd person speak - not to mention that most pirates I know only became pirates after this sorta thing. after dl'in tunes on iTunes, they turned to NG's instead

 

[chcarnage]

Uhm why do you buy something before informing yourself?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ITMS

[*]Up to 5 computers might play iTMS songs at any given time
[*]iTMS songs can burned to CDs as many times as you wish
[*]Any given playlist might be burned up to 7 times

HTH