Please explain, people wanting change vs Obama approval rating

[Sonikku]

All I hear about this election is people want change, change, change. Yet...

Current Obama job approval rating 58%
http://www.businessinsider.com/obama-approval-rating-trump-hillary-clinton-polls-2016-9

Current approval rating for Congress (in case you didn't know both houses run by Republicans) 12.5%
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/other/congressional_job_approval-903.html

So if people don't want a 3rd Obama term why do so many approve of the job he is doing? Don't give me that he's on his way out stuff, Bush was in the 20s on his way out. Why do so many dislike the job Republicans in Congress are doing?

Are people really making a case for Trump and Republicans this fall??

It's not that he's amazing, he actually seems kind of meh. But stacked up against Hillary or Trump he suddenly appears preferable in comparison.

 

[bradly1101]

State and Local government tends to have a greater impact on most peoples lives than Federal anyway, but a lot of people seem to not realize that.

The whole system in general has gotten so bloated it is pathetic though, no matter which party as been in charge.

I don't know why, but Democrats are just too lazy to vote in midterms.

 

[Strk]

People have always wanted change in congress, but it is always the others, not "their guy." It's the whole idea that their congressman is great, but that guy from Texas is a real asshole.

 

[MongGrel]

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112th - 2011 - 2013
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[Roflmouth]

All I hear about this election is people want change, change, change. Yet...

Current Obama job approval rating 58%
http://www.businessinsider.com/obama-approval-rating-trump-hillary-clinton-polls-2016-9

Current approval rating for Congress (in case you didn't know both houses run by Republicans) 12.5%
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/other/congressional_job_approval-903.html

So if people don't want a 3rd Obama term why do so many approve of the job he is doing? Don't give me that he's on his way out stuff, Bush was in the 20s on his way out. Why do so many dislike the job Republicans in Congress are doing?

Are people really making a case for Trump and Republicans this fall??

They are! And Hilary's in a statistical tie with him! How embarrassing for you!

 

[pcgeek11]

Thanks for that Mr Obvious. The last 8 years have been Republicans though

I always knew the 60 votes in the Senate was going to be a complete mess when that passed.

My bad they have only owned the House of Representatives over the 112th and 113th, not both Mr Clueless.

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OK

 

[SMOGZINN]

People have always wanted change in congress, but it is always the others, not "their guy." It's the whole idea that their congressman is great, but that guy from Texas is a real asshole.

To be fair, the guy from Texas is a real asshole. I've met most of them, and they are pretty much all assholes. It seems to be our specialty.

 

[IGBT]

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-09-15/harvard-debunks-obama-recovery-farce
Further evidence that obama supporters are low information goobers:
Harvard Crushes The "Obama Recovery" Farce With 9 Simple Charts

Harvard University points out that, despite claims of an "Obama Recovery," in fact, the U.S. economy has continued to deteriorate in the aftermath of the "great recession." Among other things, Harvard attributes the economic deterioration to a "lack of economic strategy, especially at the federal level" and a "political system was once the envy of many nations" but has now "become our greatest liability." Below are a couple of the key conclusions...Harvard argues that one of the primary causes of the sustained economic downturn has been a lack of an economic strategy from the federal government which has instead chosen to rely exclusively on accomodative Fed policies.

 

[Victorian Gray]

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-09-15/harvard-debunks-obama-recovery-farce
Further evidence that obama supporters are low information goobers:
Harvard Crushes The "Obama Recovery" Farce With 9 Simple Charts

Harvard University points out that, despite claims of an "Obama Recovery," in fact, the U.S. economy has continued to deteriorate in the aftermath of the "great recession." Among other things, Harvard attributes the economic deterioration to a "lack of economic strategy, especially at the federal level" and a "political system was once the envy of many nations" but has now "become our greatest liability." Below are a couple of the key conclusions...Harvard argues that one of the primary causes of the sustained economic downturn has been a lack of an economic strategy from the federal government which has instead chosen to rely exclusively on accomodative Fed policies.

"Harvard crushes" nothing.

"The opinions expressed in this report are the authors' own and not those of Harvard Business School."

http://www.hbs.edu/competitiveness/Documents/problems-unsolved-and-a-nation-divided.pdf

 

[IGBT]

No doubt the obama greatly fueled this fire:


The U.S. political system was once the envy of many nations. Over the last two decades, however, it has become our greatest liability. Americans no longer trust their political leaders, and political polarization has increased dramatically. Americans are increasingly frustrated with the U.S. political system. Independents now account for 42% of Americans, a greater percentage than that of either major party.

 

[IGBT]

http://www.cnbc.com/2016/07/18/sen-...onomy-is-a-disaster-hillary-to-extend-it.html

Sen. Jeff Sessions: Obama's economy is a disaster; Hillary to extend it...
"Our middle class is steadily declining, with our African American and Hispanic communities being hurt the most. But, the Washington establishment, the media, and big corporations have been in denial," he said at the Republican National Convention. "This is an economic disaster. We are on the wrong track and the people know it."

"Yet, Hillary Clinton's plan is more of the same: more government, more taxes, more regulation, … and more debt," he said. "She has been a champion of globalist trade agreements. But the facts are in. They have not worked for our people."

 

[Jhhnn]

Nevermind that the Repub sponsored "Ownership Society" was the false prosperity of too much credit & that it ended with a swift kick to the nuts for the economy or that only fast action by the govt & the FRB prevented a re-do of the great depression.

Reality's version of Trump's charts-

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...ne-graph-tweet-proving-that-obama-has-failed/

 

[IGBT]

http://dailycaller.com/2014/07/16/the-disaster-of-the-obama-presidency/#masthead

Robert G. Kaufman
Professor of Public Policy, Pepperdine University

The Disaster Of The Obama Presidency

The economy limps along anemically — the weakest recovery from a recession in history. Rising taxes, suffocating regulation, soaring domestic spending, and voraciously expanding entitlements have deep-chilled growth, innovation, and the creation of new jobs. The administration has tenaciously impeded the exploitation of huge energy reserves that could transform the U.S. into an

 

[Jhhnn]

http://dailycaller.com/2014/07/16/the-disaster-of-the-obama-presidency/#masthead

Robert G. Kaufman
Professor of Public Policy, Pepperdine University

The Disaster Of The Obama Presidency

The economy limps along anemically — the weakest recovery from a recession in history. Rising taxes, suffocating regulation, soaring domestic spending, and voraciously expanding entitlements have deep-chilled growth, innovation, and the creation of new jobs. The administration has tenaciously impeded the exploitation of huge energy reserves that could transform the U.S. into an

Which doesn't explain the price of oil or natural gas & which falsely attributes the results of automation & offshoring to extraneous causes.

 

[ivwshane]

Which doesn't explain the price of oil or natural gas & which falsely attributes the results of automation & offshoring to extraneous causes.

His bubble is fortified so you aren't going to reach him let alone get a response from him. He's become just like a lot of other righty nutters, he simply dumps and runs.

 

[brycejones]

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-09-15/harvard-debunks-obama-recovery-farce
Further evidence that obama supporters are low information goobers:
Harvard Crushes The "Obama Recovery" Farce With 9 Simple Charts

Harvard University points out that, despite claims of an "Obama Recovery," in fact, the U.S. economy has continued to deteriorate in the aftermath of the "great recession." Among other things, Harvard attributes the economic deterioration to a "lack of economic strategy, especially at the federal level" and a "political system was once the envy of many nations" but has now "become our greatest liability." Below are a couple of the key conclusions...Harvard argues that one of the primary causes of the sustained economic downturn has been a lack of an economic strategy from the federal government which has instead chosen to rely exclusively on accomodative Fed policies.

http://www.cnbc.com/2016/07/18/sen-...onomy-is-a-disaster-hillary-to-extend-it.html

Sen. Jeff Sessions: Obama's economy is a disaster; Hillary to extend it...
"Our middle class is steadily declining, with our African American and Hispanic communities being hurt the most. But, the Washington establishment, the media, and big corporations have been in denial," he said at the Republican National Convention. "This is an economic disaster. We are on the wrong track and the people know it."

"Yet, Hillary Clinton's plan is more of the same: more government, more taxes, more regulation, … and more debt," he said. "She has been a champion of globalist trade agreements. But the facts are in. They have not worked for our people."

http://dailycaller.com/2014/07/16/the-disaster-of-the-obama-presidency/#masthead

Robert G. Kaufman
Professor of Public Policy, Pepperdine University

The Disaster Of The Obama Presidency

The economy limps along anemically — the weakest recovery from a recession in history. Rising taxes, suffocating regulation, soaring domestic spending, and voraciously expanding entitlements have deep-chilled growth, innovation, and the creation of new jobs. The administration has tenaciously impeded the exploitation of huge energy reserves that could transform the U.S. into an

Needs more you-tube links otherwise you're just an even more sucky version of underroos.

 

[HomerJS]

http://www.cnbc.com/2016/07/18/sen-...onomy-is-a-disaster-hillary-to-extend-it.html

Sen. Jeff Sessions: Obama's economy is a disaster; Hillary to extend it...
"Our middle class is steadily declining, with our African American and Hispanic communities being hurt the most. But, the Washington establishment, the media, and big corporations have been in denial," he said at the Republican National Convention. "This is an economic disaster. We are on the wrong track and the people know it."

"Yet, Hillary Clinton's plan is more of the same: more government, more taxes, more regulation, … and more debt," he said. "She has been a champion of globalist trade agreements. But the facts are in. They have not worked for our people."

You mean Obama had an economy that was a bigger disaster then the last Republican economy that lost 800,000 jobs/month?!!

I find that just a little hard to believe

 

[JSt0rm]

They always beat this drum. It's always wrong but a segment of the population votes based on this idea so they keep going.

I honestly think our public schools are shit on purpose. Much easier to control a stupid population.

 

[Jhhnn]

http://www.cnbc.com/2016/07/18/sen-...onomy-is-a-disaster-hillary-to-extend-it.html

Sen. Jeff Sessions: Obama's economy is a disaster; Hillary to extend it...
"Our middle class is steadily declining, with our African American and Hispanic communities being hurt the most. But, the Washington establishment, the media, and big corporations have been in denial," he said at the Republican National Convention. "This is an economic disaster. We are on the wrong track and the people know it."

"Yet, Hillary Clinton's plan is more of the same: more government, more taxes, more regulation, … and more debt," he said. "She has been a champion of globalist trade agreements. But the facts are in. They have not worked for our people."

Sessions ought to know about poverty. His state is the 4th poorest & has been run by Repubs for decades. His own voting record & that of his state delegation in general has been dismal. They refuse to enact medicaid expansion & tax the poor more than the rich-

http://www.al.com/news/index.ssf/2015/01/is_alabama_a_low-tax_state_not.html

All I'm seeing are crocodile tears.

 

[Starbuck1975]

Easy answer. People generally and genuinely like Obama, but not everyone is benefitting from the 21st century economy, and the world he is passing along is as scary if not more so than the one he inherited.

 

[Jaskalas]

Easy answer. People generally and genuinely like Obama, but not everyone is benefitting from the 21st century economy, and the world he is passing along is as scary if not more so than the one he inherited.

He didn't fix it, nor could he. A President is not that powerful, especially without Congress.
I mean, even if he had a solution... it would not be possible to apply one.

 

[Sonikku]

http://www.cnbc.com/2016/07/18/sen-...onomy-is-a-disaster-hillary-to-extend-it.html

Sen. Jeff Sessions: Obama's economy is a disaster; Hillary to extend it...
"Our middle class is steadily declining, with our African American and Hispanic communities being hurt the most. But, the Washington establishment, the media, and big corporations have been in denial," he said at the Republican National Convention. "This is an economic disaster. We are on the wrong track and the people know it."

"Yet, Hillary Clinton's plan is more of the same: more government, more taxes, more regulation, … and more debt," he said. "She has been a champion of globalist trade agreements. But the facts are in. They have not worked for our people."

Hillary to extend it? Not "Hillary and Trump to extend it"? How many people here think Trump is going to turn things around in a positive way?

 

[Starbuck1975]

He didn't fix it, nor could he. A President is not that powerful, especially without Congress.
I mean, even if he had a solution... it would not be possible to apply one.

Agreed, but initally he had a mandate and Congress, but lost both at the midterms because he perhaps underestimated the tenacity of his opponents. I think history will judge Obama as a strong President but also a missed opportunity.

 

[glenn1]

Agreed, but initally he had a mandate and Congress, but lost both at the midterms because he perhaps underestimated the tenacity of his opponents. I think history will judge Obama as a strong President but also a missed opportunity.

He didn't "miss the opportunity," he just instead decided to use the opportunity he had to spend his political capital on Obamacare and "stimulus" like 99 weeks of unemployment.

 

[Starbuck1975]

He didn't "miss the opportunity," he just instead decided to use the opportunity he had to spend his political capital on Obamacare and "stimulus" like 99 weeks of unemployment.

Any candidate that goes from a historic and decisive victory to historic and decisive midterm losses is a missed opportunity