Please evaluate my 60 WoW rogue

Heckler 5th

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okay, I got my only WoW character up to 60 last night so i'm pretty happy about that but i've never really gotten any input from other WoW rogue vets. since i stay as far away as possible from the official WoW forums, thought i'd post here since so many ppl here seem to play it.

first, a little background info. i do zero pvp. only did enough early on to get a discount on mount. also, my gear is a little behind b/c i started playing the game in dec. with 3 real-life friends of mine so we 4-manned everything up thru uldaman with a shammy as our only healer! as a result, we were doing instances at later levels than most. whereas if we'd been in a guild or something, we probably woulda been doing ST or maybe even BRD at that point. LOL still haven't finished BRD yet, and haven't touched anything beyond. :\ workin on it!

here's how i'm using my talent points:

ASSASSINATION
Malice: 5/5
Improved Slice and Dice: 3/3
Assassination Total: 8

COMBAT
Improved Sinister Strike: 2/2
Lightning Reflexes: 5/5
Improved Backstab: 1/3
Precision: 5/5
Improved Evasion: 2/2
Dual Wield Specialization: 5/5
Blade Flurry: 1/1
Combat Total: 21

SUBTLETY
Master of Deception: 5/5
Elusiveness: 5/5
Opportunity: 5/5
Initiative: 4/5
Ghostly Strike: 1/1
Preparation: 1/1
Subtlety Total: 21

haven't spent my last talent point yet. any ideas where it'd be most effective for high level instances/raids?

i've set it up this way to maximize damage per swing while at the same time, not stealing aggro from the MT (hit > crit). i use blade flurry with slice and dice to maximum effect for attacking two targets at once and evasion with ghostly strike for defensive purposes. and i love having prep to reset cooldowns for all the above. also, this build allows for me to reach adrenaline rush once lvl caps are moved to 70. am i missing out on anything important?

my main concern regards weapons. a rogue wants a slow main hand weapon with high damage and as fast a weapon as possible in off-hand, right? i've been using the widowmaker since lvl42 cuz i haven't found a comparable dagger with good damage AND agility & stam/str. my agility is 363, i think. i haven't gotten the barman shanker yet but i'm leary of a dagger that has a stupid proc on it rather than agility & stam/str. guess that's why i've been using the same dagger for 18 levels! :\ off-hand, i have a green dimensional blade of the monkey (+7 agil, +7 stam) with a speed of 1.6 for applying poison.

i do have a firebreather (from sunken temple) to switch to in main hand for face-to-face sinister strikes but it's kinduva pain to do so in combat. backstabbing with a dagger is always preferable to sinister strike-spamming with a sword, right?

thanks in advance for your analysis!
 

Syrch

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aha he just hit 60, the games been out how long? Its those that get 60 in a week that need to get some sunlight
 

imported_Pablo

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Later on in life, when you're older, I'll bet you'll never say "man, I wish I had spent a few more hours developing that WoW character."

Now go, and live life. Real life.
 

Doboji

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I'm at the tavern getting drunk... are there any girls there?!?! If there are I want to DO them!



 

Doboji

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Seriously though... I admire the way you went about playing... instead of rushing headlong as fast as you can, taking the time to play with friends is DEFINITLY the way to go.

How'd you guys manage to stay at compareable levels?

-Max
 

rh71

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I also bought WoW for Christmas and my rogue is just at level 44... I'm playing slowly and exploring... good times. I'm in a guild - only because of a friend who's just given me money and some eq at lower levels... I don't do much in groups except for the ones I bump into along the way.

As for my talents... I didn't use any on subtlety... mostly assassination and just a handful on combat so far. I'll leave the rest of the evaluation to experienced players...
 

sao123

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May 27, 2002
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Originally posted by: Heckler 5th
okay, I got my only WoW character up to 60 last night so i'm pretty happy about that but i've never really gotten any input from other WoW rogue vets. since i stay as far away as possible from the official WoW forums, thought i'd post here since so many ppl here seem to play it.

first, a little background info. i do zero pvp. only did enough early on to get a discount on mount. also, my gear is a little behind b/c i started playing the game in dec. with 3 real-life friends of mine so we 4-manned everything up thru uldaman with a shammy as our only healer! as a result, we were doing instances at later levels than most. whereas if we'd been in a guild or something, we probably woulda been doing ST or maybe even BRD at that point. LOL still haven't finished BRD yet, and haven't touched anything beyond. :\ workin on it!

here's how i'm using my talent points:

ASSASSINATION
Malice: 5/5
Improved Slice and Dice: 3/3
Assassination Total: 8

COMBAT
Improved Sinister Strike: 2/2
Lightning Reflexes: 5/5
Improved Backstab: 1/3
Precision: 5/5
Improved Evasion: 2/2
Dual Wield Specialization: 5/5
Blade Flurry: 1/1
Combat Total: 21

SUBTLETY
Master of Deception: 5/5
Elusiveness: 5/5
Opportunity: 5/5
Initiative: 4/5
Ghostly Strike: 1/1
Preparation: 1/1
Subtlety Total: 21

haven't spent my last talent point yet. any ideas where it'd be most effective for high level instances/raids?

i've set it up this way to maximize damage per swing while at the same time, not stealing aggro from the MT (hit > crit). i use blade flurry with slice and dice to maximum effect for attacking two targets at once and evasion with ghostly strike for defensive purposes. and i love having prep to reset cooldowns for all the above. also, this build allows for me to reach adrenaline rush once lvl caps are moved to 70. am i missing out on anything important?

my main concern regards weapons. a rogue wants a slow main hand weapon with high damage and as fast a weapon as possible in off-hand, right? i've been using the widowmaker since lvl42 cuz i haven't found a comparable dagger with good damage AND agility & stam/str. my agility is 363, i think. i haven't gotten the barman shanker yet but i'm leary of a dagger that has a stupid proc on it rather than agility & stam/str. guess that's why i've been using the same dagger for 18 levels! :\ off-hand, i have a green dimensional blade of the monkey (+7 agil, +7 stam) with a speed of 1.6 for applying poison.

i do have a firebreather (from sunken temple) to switch to in main hand for face-to-face sinister strikes but it's kinduva pain to do so in combat. backstabbing with a dagger is always preferable to sinister strike-spamming with a sword, right?

thanks in advance for your analysis!


perhaps you should equip a vibrator and go level up your sex skills.
 

rh71

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See if you posted this in software, you would get much more mature responses... now you've learned your Off-Topic lesson...
 

Heckler 5th

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all u who assume i'm a little teen l33ter and take it upon yourselves to insult me can all go fvck yourselves. i'm sure your lives are sooo interesting. this is off topic, and this isn't a question specifically regarding software so go troll somewhere else, a$$holes.
 

imported_Pablo

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Originally posted by: Heckler 5th
all u who assume i'm a little teen l33ter and take it upon yourselves to insult me can all go fvck yourselves. i'm sure your lives are sooo interesting. this is off topic, and this isn't a question specifically regarding software so go troll somewhere else, a$$holes.

Your name is "Heckler" and you can't stand a little bit of ribbing?
 

Doboji

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Originally posted by: Heckler 5th
all u who assume i'm a little teen l33ter and take it upon yourselves to insult me can all go fvck yourselves. i'm sure your lives are sooo interesting. this is off topic, and this isn't a question specifically regarding software so go troll somewhere else, a$$holes.

Wow you are clearly a super n00b... if you can't stand the heat, get out of the kitchen.... this is ATOT... expect to get your head chopped off... I posted a diet thread a few minutes ago... if people don't tell me I'm a fat lazy good for nothing at least every 5 posts in that thread I'd be shocked.

Deal with it.

-Max
 

cKGunslinger

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The WoW class forums are where you go to ask about specific talent builds. Even the AT Software forum has the occasional WoW thread.

ATOT is for the kids to whine about spending $100+ on their 16yo girlfriends and still not getting to second base on thier 15th date.

In short, Learn2Post, noob! :D
 

pulsedrive

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Originally posted by: cKGunslinger
The WoW class forums are where you go to ask about specific talent builds. Even the AT Software forum has the occasional WoW thread.

ATOT is for the kids to whine about spending $100+ on their 16yo girlfriends and still not getting to second base on thier 15th date.

In short, Learn2Post, noob! :D

ROFLMAO
 

CVSiN

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Originally posted by: cKGunslinger
The WoW class forums are where you go to ask about specific talent builds. Even the AT Software forum has the occasional WoW thread.

ATOT is for the kids to whine about spending $100+ on their 16yo girlfriends and still not getting to second base on thier 15th date.

In short, Learn2Post, noob! :D

yet another classic quote by CK...

freaking classic..

as for wow still playing got my 3rd char to L45 now... hunter and is by far my fave.. my 60 rogue sits in storage mainly..

but your template is pretty standard assasination one..
weps.. you need to get a heartseeker..

its not all about agl stam at 60 anymore...
get that outa your head..
+crit + dodge + to hit are all more important at 60..
you already have tons of agl.. and remeber each 1% crit is worth 30 agl..

 

sao123

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May 27, 2002
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Originally posted by: Doboji
Originally posted by: Heckler 5th
all u who assume i'm a little teen l33ter and take it upon yourselves to insult me can all go fvck yourselves. i'm sure your lives are sooo interesting. this is off topic, and this isn't a question specifically regarding software so go troll somewhere else, a$$holes.

Wow you are clearly a super n00b... if you can't stand the heat, get out of the kitchen.... this is ATOT... expect to get your head chopped off... I posted a diet thread a few minutes ago... if people don't tell me I'm a fat lazy good for nothing at least every 5 posts in that thread I'd be shocked.

Deal with it.

-Max



you're a fat lazy good for nothing...






j/k