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Please don't commit suicide

Ultimate expression of personal choice and freedom in my opinion.

Lots of people do it for "the wrong reasons" according to society and especially religion, and much of it may be preventable with mental healthcare and counseling, etc. But in essence, it is all judgemental thinking to say it is 'wrong'.

What about right-to-die for terminally-ill people? Most would argue that right-to-die isn't suicide because the people seeking it are "justified" with their reasoning, or however folks want to rationalize it. The only real difference to me is the feels and/or judgement from those left behind wondering, "why?!".

I am truly sorry to hear about your friend, in any case.
 
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Sorry to hear. 🙁 Depression is a hell of a disease. I remember when I was there and when suicidal thoughts happened, it's messed up. I can understand now how it can happen to people you would never think, because when you are at that moment, you're in such a dark place and just want to do anything to make the feelings go away. I knew it was not the right thing to do and fought it but sadly some people don't fight it, nor do they seek help.
 
Mayne said:
It really fucks up my head. Good friend and co-worker did the act a couple days ago.
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Condolences man. I feel like I've lost a friend a year since high school like this. The tough thing is that it's a combination of feeling so bad in the moment that you want to die, along with not thinking about the actual negative impact it will have on other people. One of my friends was an only child...his parents are still wrecked, years later. Just awful. My heart goes out to you brother.
 
Kaido said:
The tough thing is that it's a combination of feeling so bad in the moment that you want to die, along with not thinking about the actual negative impact it will have on other people.
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I believe for many it's a balancing act. It isn't that they never consider or think about the people they leave behind, it's whether those emotional connections are strong enough to overcome the desire to exit stage left.

I know that it was often what kept me from considering it further at some points in my life...the thought of how it would affect my parents, etc. I didn't want to cause them the pain, I felt like it was in a way transferring the pain I was experiencing to them, against their will or choice.

Sometimes, for some folks...that notion is no longer enough.

I've also found in my experience and interactions with people over the years, it is extremely hard to understand or grasp the basic concept of mental illnesses such as depression, anxiety, etc if you have never experienced them yourself. I've had very good friends that I just didn't have discussions about certain things like depression because they had absolutely no clue and "just didn't get it".

Some folks don't even believe mental health is an actual real issue, sadly.
 
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Pohemi420 said:
I believe for many it's a balancing act. It isn't that they never consider or think about the people they leave behind, it's whether those emotional connections are strong enough to overcome the desire to exit stage left.

I know that it was often what kept me from considering it further at some points in my life...the thought of how it would affect my parents, etc. I didn't want to cause them the pain, I felt like it was in a way transferring the pain I was experiencing to them, against their will or choice.

Sometimes, for some folks...that notion is no longer enough.

I've also found in my experience and interactions with people over the years, it is extremely hard to understand or grasp the basic concept of mental illnesses such as depression, anxiety, etc if you have never experienced them yourself. I've had very good friends that I just didn't have discussions about certain things like depression because they had absolutely no clue and "just didn't get it".

Some folks don't even believe mental health is an actual real issue, sadly.
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I think our country is vastly under-educated about mental & emotional health issues. I learned that one of the reasons they keep telephones near suicide sites like bridges is because, in most cases, people just feel so bad in the moment that if they can just talk to someone to help shift their perspective, that's all they really need. I read an article where they surveyed people who jumped & survived & like the majority of them said everything just hit them at one time & funneled them into doing the deed. Makes me wonder how COVID has affect people who are already struggling really hard, you know?
 
Kaido said:
Condolences man. I feel like I've lost a friend a year since high school like this. The tough thing is that it's a combination of feeling so bad in the moment that you want to die, along with not thinking about the actual negative impact it will have on other people. One of my friends was an only child...his parents are still wrecked, years later. Just awful. My heart goes out to you brother.
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Also, when people are stricken with these feelings, it's often accompanied by the feeling that things will never get any better. Even if they've been in that hole before, once you're in the hole, it feels like light never existed and never will.
My former BIL's adult daughter did the same, and ten years later he's still struggling with it.
 
I'll commit homicide before suicide. No reason to go out like that without taking someone with me such that society benefits.
 
Red Squirrel said:
Sometimes it helps to vent your feelings especially during hard times. When I went through depression talking to people is what kept me going.
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imo if you haven't gone through depression yet, just wait, it's coming for you!
 
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