Uh, yes there is. Being the only IP address they are going to see from my company is the router, the IP is worthless unless they want to include all 10,000 people who use it. At home I have three computers sharing my routers IP.Originally posted by: SagaLore
Duuuuuuh, somebody needs to learn what cookies actually do... they just store information, in a text file, in your cache. That information that gets stored is generally for keeping site settings like options you picked or shopping cart items. There is nothing from that cookie that a site can get that they didn't already get in order to put it into a cookie! They could just as easily track IPs and history on their end, but it's less resource hogging by keeping the "cookies" on our end.
People are so paranoid and misinformed...
Originally posted by: dwellUse a real browser and get rid of Google spying in three clicks:
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<--0wnedOriginally posted by: aves2k
Originally posted by: dwellUse a real browser and get rid of Google spying in three clicks:
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Originally posted by: dwell
Uh, yes there is. Being the only IP address they are going to see from my company is the router, the IP is worthless unless they want to include all 10,000 people who use it. At home I have three computers sharing my routers IP.Originally posted by: SagaLore
Duuuuuuh, somebody needs to learn what cookies actually do... they just store information, in a text file, in your cache. That information that gets stored is generally for keeping site settings like options you picked or shopping cart items. There is nothing from that cookie that a site can get that they didn't already get in order to put it into a cookie! They could just as easily track IPs and history on their end, but it's less resource hogging by keeping the "cookies" on our end.
People are so paranoid and misinformed...
If you look at the Google cookie it uses a 64-bit UID to track you. Doubleclick and a ton of other sites do the same thing. They don't need to track me, no matter how benign their intentions are so I disallow their cookies.
pwned!
Originally posted by: Jeff7
More, MORE, MORE!!! We need MORE conspiracy theories!!!
I'll bet that Anand is personally overseeing this Google thing - just watch, soon the forum search will use Google technology. All knowledge will be assimilated. The end is near!
Originally posted by: Jeff7
More, MORE, MORE!!! We need MORE conspiracy theories!!!
I'll bet that Anand is personally overseeing this Google thing - just watch, soon the forum search will use Google technology. All knowledge will be assimilated. The end is near!
Originally posted by: yoda291
Google cannot differentiated me from the guy sitting next to me at work. We use the same OS, browser, and setup. There is only a handful of information the browser sends to the server about a surfer. This includes the browser, OS, IP address of their router, and perhaps their screen resolution, among other trivial bits of information. It's really not enough to make a unique UID. The only way to keep it unique is to create a UID and plant it in your cookies. As soon as it?s erased they lose all tracking information about you.Originally posted by: dwell
Google uses a UID to track you because it doesn't want to cross you with someone else behind whatever router or switch you may rest behind. If google wanted to track your activities, it certainly does not need a cookie to do so. Your computer isn't generating that 64-bit uid, google is. Your computer didn't arbitrarily decide to put stuff into the cookie, google did. It's almost certainly just a hash of information that your browser has already sent to google. In other words, the second you hit google, your browser has just sent all the information you think you're preventing google from seeing, regardless of whether or not you actually have google's cookie. The only thing that could remotely be called "tracking" is google throwing whatever link you clicked on or whatever term you searched for into that cookie...and if you think that google can't find a way to track its clickthrus without the use of cookies...I've got a great deal on the brooklyn bridge for you.
I don't know if anyone is saying Google is spying on them, but it's just an invasion of privacy that can be easily remedied by not accepting their cookie. There is no reason for me to accept the cookie. Google works the same with or without it. If they want to attempt to ascertain my individual machine by some other means more power to them.
Google utilizes perhaps the benign form of session tracking. Others companies such as Doubleclick and Sextracker use cookies for deeper mining and tracking.
Originally posted by: KingNothing
Originally posted by: xirtam
Why do people go online, a place where millions or billions live, work, play, and do business with each other...
...and then demand absolute privacy, anonymity, and expect awesome public utilities (like Google) to not have some kind of agenda? We live in a capitalistic system. Deal with it or boycott search engines altogether.
I fail to believe that the solution to dealing with infringement of privacy and the widespread "abuse" of technology is to become amish.
Who said anything about becoming Amish?
Originally posted by: Jeff7
More, MORE, MORE!!! We need MORE conspiracy theories!!!
I'll bet that Anand is personally overseeing this Google thing - just watch, soon the forum search will use Google technology. All knowledge will be assimilated. The end is near!
Originally posted by: xirtam
Originally posted by: Jeff7
More, MORE, MORE!!! We need MORE conspiracy theories!!!
I'll bet that Anand is personally overseeing this Google thing - just watch, soon the forum search will use Google technology. All knowledge will be assimilated. The end is near!
Resistance is futile?