Playstation 2 online disaster

[Cougar]

Originally posted by: Skyclad1uhm1
Ok, was just presuming you to be a !Sony fanboy cause of your remarks

X-Box had not proven itself either, have not seen any test results from them so far. X-Box is $50 more expensive than PS2 (I think?) and to play DVDs you still need to buy a remote control for about $25, so the $100 for changes to your PS2 is not as big as people make it out to be. Besides, for those who can't play online anyway it means they don't have to spend the extra cash, and in fact save $75.

P.S. I do not own any console, never have, and don't plan on getting one. Perfectly happy with my PC. The latest X-Box games cost 69.99 Euros here ($66.17), so it's a tiny bit too expensive to my taste.

Actually I'm not anti-anything. I was fully prepared to buy a playstation 2 whenever Metal Gear Solid 2 came out, but I lost my job and I couldn't justify spending $300 when I didn't have any income. Now with the price drop I was debating between the PS2 and a Gamecube, but since the gamecube was cheaper and had Resident Evil 0, Rogue Squadron, and the upcoming Metroid Prime, Zelda, and Super Mario Brothers it was a no brainer. Those are the games I wanted to play so I went with the gamecube. I got in on the Playstation + 10 games = $100 off a new console deal at Electronics Boutique so I picked I my gamecube for $50 and it was worth every penny.

I'm still going to buy the PS2 someday, but that will have to wait till I find a job (gotta play Metal Gear Solid 2 and I believe they Made Syphon Filter for it right?). As far as the Xbox goes, so far there hasn't really been too much on it that has me interested but if a game comes out for it that I really need then I'll go buy that too.

It's all about the games man. I don't care what console they're played on. As far as I see it I've got the best of both worlds (or maybe 4 or 5 worlds) if I've got all the consoles. I still play games on my computer and I can play any virtually game on the planet if I own the PS2, Gamecube, and Xbox. It's a win, win situation for me to have no brand loyalty.

 

[loup garou]

I can't believe people take "stances" and are "anti-this" and "pro-that" when talking about videogames. Seriously, step away from the computer/TV and go outside for awhile. They're just games for chrissakes.

You think back in the day people had arguments like this about which boardgames were better?

 

[Johnlee]

You think back in the day people had arguments like this about which boardgames were better?

Yes, as a matter of fact, we did.

I remember it like yesterday, me and Robbie Joyner out in the back yard, pummeling each other, he with his Monopoly board against my temple and I with my Hungry Hungry Hippos slicing into his kidneys. I was always a Mattel Fanboy.

I can't wait for Xbox to release an online football game. It will finally be the straw that forces me to get broadband. Ahhh, what a childish life I lead.

 

[Lithium381]

the only console i have is an SNES.....i haven a pretty hard time getting online with that :-(

 

[Cougar]

Originally posted by: Valinos
LOL, I like your attitude on the gaming consoles and especially Sony, Cougar. I notice the same thing. I think the gaming press just makes the problem worse.

People fail to see the MONUMENTAL defective rate of PS2's just because its Sony, for some reason. It is such blind loyalty. I have people that come into my work all the time saying their PS2's are broken, and then buy a brand new one. And then 9 months down the road they pay Sony to refurb their PS2 again. Its nuts.

Also, one thing that really gets me is the major bitching about the Xbox controller and the claims that it is the worst controller EVER made. Yawn. Again, it is the biased gaming press. They all say it has the worst controller, people read it, and then they agree. Personally, my vote for worst controller ever? The Jaguar's. I swear, I've never seen so much bitching about controllers in my life until the Xbox came around. I think people look for reasons to hate MS and the Xbox for.

I get people griping about Xbox and Gamecube having no games all the time. Ok, that's great...now rewind to October 2000. Hell, go back to June 2001. What did the PS2 have going for it? Onimusha and Tekken Tag Tournament! Those are the only two A+ titles for the system at the time and Onimusha is debateable considering it took me 4 hours to beat it the first time through.

Let's be serious here kids, stop the hate and the console trumpeting. Accept the fact that the system you own is not the best system. Don't be jealous of me because I own all three. Don't be jealous of Jimmy down the street because he owns a Gamecube and you own an Xbox. Don't hate.

That's exactly what I'm talking about Valinos. So many people out there are either hypocrites or just turn a blind eye when their saviour has a blemish. When the dreamcast came out hordes of people "held out for the PS2 because it's going to be better". Well, the PS2 comes out and the games for it sucked and were few and far between. Yet the zombies replied "It's a brand new system, of course there's no games for it!" Now that the Gamecube and Xbox are out and picking up some steam these same zombies reply "Dude, there's no games for the Cube or the Xbox, why waste your money on those when you can get the PS2 that has tons of games". Amazing that they didn't use that argument to get a dreamcast with loads of AAA titles instead of a PS2 with a bunch of sequels/ports. Hypocrites? I think so.

Then there's the Xbox controller that you brought up. Everyone and their mom talks about how big the controller is. Well, I went into best buy and picked the beast up and lo and behold it was not the 40 pound brick that everyone claimed. But, but, the Xbox is HUGE!!!!! Really? If size mattered then the Cube is what you want to buy since it's so tiny.

If Sega has problems they get crucified and pratically run out of town. If Sony has problems "Who cares, the PS2 still rules". If Microsoft has problems "I knew microsoft couldn't hack it in the gaming biz. They should go back to writing crappy operating systems and a bloated office suite". If Nintendo has problems "Yet another reason why nintendo is going to be out of business soon. The only thing they're good for is pokemon and catering to the 2 - 12 year old crowd".

Brand loyalty is for sheep.

 

[vash]

The failure of Sony's first online game is definitely worth noting, but lets look at the fact that MOST gaming console upgrades aren't worth the cash. Sega failed with their CDRom addon, Nintendo ditched their CDrom added in favor of the N64, etc. Time and time again, addons do not usually do well in the market place. Console's, traditionally, need to stand alone, without upgrades.

The PS2, wasn't designed for upgrades in mind (reguardless of what Sony says, ihmo). The modem adapter, the hard drive adapter were just plain not thought of in the initial tinkerings of the PS2 (had Sony know of the capabilities of the Xbox, it may be a different story).

As far as the Xbox goes, we still have yet to see some games take "true" advantage of the internet capabilities. The hard drive works as advertised (how I love the amount of save games I have in some games), but we haven't seen the ethernet wildly shown in a blissfull light. I am conifident that the Xbox will do well with their built in broadband adapter, but lets hope we see some quality titles that actually can use these neato features.

vash

 

[cisco]

Just adding a reference point here, do a search on ebay of "playstation 2 broken" Playstation 2 parts or not working"
and the try xbox, you'll see hundreds of playstations being sold with disc read errors but only 2 xboxes listed
seems the lasers in PS2s don't hold up very long.
I've got two broken ones here that won't read DVDs, so I think they are junk in my opinion.
and the graphics in a playstation2 motocross game stinks compared to mototcross madness on my PC.
now motogross madnesss is a microsoft game and I'll admitt the online gaming setup at msn.com is kinda weird (had to confirgure my router with open port ranging) , can only go online with one PC at a time unlike other games "unrealtournament" " counterstrike" , just me two cents !!

 

[Smolek]

Originally posted by: cisco
Just adding a reference point here, do a search on ebay of "playstation 2 broken" Playstation 2 parts or not working" and the try xbox, you'll see hundreds of playstations being sold with disc read errors but only 2 xboxes listed seems the lasers in PS2s don't hold up very long. I've got two broken ones here that won't read DVDs, so I think they are junk in my opinion.

Yep, when your having 100's a week breaking down (google search if you dont believe me), its not hard to imagine such a high "shipped" console number that they brag about.