'Plated' speakers? is this BS?

KillaKilla

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My brother has some (IMO) rathar nice speakers, whiuch don't seem to lose sound quality with more volume. He claims they're 'plated, saying that they don't have a single magnet but a series of small ones up and down the 'cone (it isn't even a cone, more of a dome, assuming that those thingimajiggers right behind the mesh are the cones themselves) .here's a link to what I think they are. Also, what does THX cert. mean?(these aren't THX certified)
 

CraigRT

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M4H is right :)

I have never bought computer speakers I've liked.. I hook my computer up to a home theater receiver with some nice real speakers, that's the only way I enjoy how it sounds.

but for the average user I guess these are probably above average.
 
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Originally posted by: CraigRT
M4H is right :)

I have never bought computer speakers I've liked.. I hook my computer up to a home theater receiver with some nice real speakers, that's the only way I enjoy how it sounds.

but for the average user I guess these are probably above average.

Meh. I picked up a set of cheap Z-640s for 5.1 sound in Doom3 and DVDs, but for music playback I shut them off and pipe it out to the component stereo. :D

- M4H
 

compfreak999

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Originally posted by: KillaKilla
My brother has some (IMO) rathar nice speakers, whiuch don't seem to lose sound quality with more volume. He claims they're 'plated, saying that they don't have a single magnet but a series of small ones up and down the 'cone (it isn't even a cone, more of a dome, assuming that those thingimajiggers right behind the mesh are the cones themselves) .here's a link to what I think they are. Also, what does THX cert. mean?(these aren't THX certified)

thx certified means that it has reached a standard therefore earning the thx logo on it, but then again creative owns around 50% of thx so its not really a good standard anymore, those are decent speakers the itruige (spelling?)
 

CraigRT

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Originally posted by: MercenaryForHire
Originally posted by: CraigRT
M4H is right :)

I have never bought computer speakers I've liked.. I hook my computer up to a home theater receiver with some nice real speakers, that's the only way I enjoy how it sounds.

but for the average user I guess these are probably above average.

Meh. I picked up a set of cheap Z-640s for 5.1 sound in Doom3 and DVDs, but for music playback I shut them off and pipe it out to the component stereo. :D

- M4H

excellent :)
for music I definitely love the stereo, and even for games, I just use earphones cause I like it like that!
not only that, but the way my room is set-up, I have no room for speakers behind me. so I just don't bother.
 
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Originally posted by: CraigRT
excellent :)
for music I definitely love the stereo, and even for games, I just use earphones cause I like it like that!
not only that, but the way my room is set-up, I have no room for speakers behind me. so I just don't bother.

Definitely. The Z's have some decent punch since the sub's corner-loaded, but it really doesn't compare to dropping air from a pair of 12"s. :D

I wish I could afford a pair of the Zalman surround-cans. I love the positional audio for games, but headphones really puts it inside your brain, where a Trent-Reznor recorded Imp can really mess up your mind. :Q

- M4H
 

zzzz

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Originally posted by: MercenaryForHire

I wish I could afford a pair of the Zalman surround-cans. I love the positional audio for games, but headphones really puts it inside your brain, where a Trent-Reznor recorded Imp can really mess up your mind. :Q

- M4H

Arent those just $50? Then the price isnt bad, considering Doom3 cost about that when it came out.
 

RaiderJ

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Originally posted by: zzzz
Originally posted by: MercenaryForHire

I wish I could afford a pair of the Zalman surround-cans. I love the positional audio for games, but headphones really puts it inside your brain, where a Trent-Reznor recorded Imp can really mess up your mind. :Q

- M4H

Arent those just $50? Then the price isnt bad, considering Doom3 cost about that when it came out.

I picked up a pair of these, and they should be waiting for me when I get home tonight. A bit more expensive than the Zalman's, but I'm hoping they are well worth the cost. I'll post once I give them a shot.
 

RaiderJ

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I picked up a pair of these, and they should be waiting for me when I get home tonight. A bit more expensive than the Zalman's, but I'm hoping they are well worth the cost. I'll post once I give them a shot.

They sound good, but the damn things came with a 220V AC/DC adapter, making me have to go out and buy an $18 universal adapter :(.

However, they do sound very good for playing games/watching movies. Not quite up to par with a full-fledged 5.1 HT setup, but provides a bit better surround than regular headphones. Recommended, but a bit expensive.
 
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Originally posted by: sandorski
Originally posted by: oneshot47
Originally posted by: sao123
Nothing can touch a Klipsch 5.1 pro ultra.

Apparently youve never heard a good, properly done home stereo set up.

He probably should had said for the price. ;)

Bull. For US$350 (Klipsch 5.1 Promedia) I'd wager you could easily cobble together a cheap HT that would knock its block off. :D

- M4H
 

mitchafi

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Can someone direct me to a good home theater information site or give me a brief rundown of how everything works? My father has a very nice Kenwood setup that is out in the living room but he uses it solely for music. It has 2 really nice and large standup speakers, as well as a giant subwoofer that's about 5 times the size of my computer subwoofer. As far as the actual components there is a big amp and something called a digital signal processor, as well as a compact disc player of course. I don't know what a receiver is or looks like, but can I hook my computer up to this system?
 

Tab

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Originally posted by: MercenaryForHire
Originally posted by: sandorski
Originally posted by: oneshot47
Originally posted by: sao123
Nothing can touch a Klipsch 5.1 pro ultra.

Apparently youve never heard a good, properly done home stereo set up.

He probably should had said for the price. ;)

Bull. For US$350 (Klipsch 5.1 Promedia) I'd wager you could easily cobble together a cheap HT that would knock its block off. :D

- M4H

Your being challanged. Tell me the stuff I'd need under $350 that'd make me a awesome 5.1 sound setup. This would obiviously be used specifically for a computer that plays games,movies and music.
 
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Originally posted by: Tabb
Originally posted by: MercenaryForHire
Originally posted by: sandorski
Originally posted by: oneshot47
Originally posted by: sao123
Nothing can touch a Klipsch 5.1 pro ultra.

Apparently youve never heard a good, properly done home stereo set up.

He probably should had said for the price. ;)

Bull. For US$350 (Klipsch 5.1 Promedia) I'd wager you could easily cobble together a cheap HT that would knock its block off. :D

- M4H

Your being challanged. Tell me the stuff I'd need under $350 that'd make me a awesome 5.1 sound setup. This would obiviously be used specifically for a computer that plays games,movies and music.

Okay, so I'm using a bit of hyperbole here. $395 normal, wait for a sale:

Onkyo HT-S760.

Or grab one any HTIAB that's marked down and add your own (better) powered sub.

- M4H
 

sandorski

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Originally posted by: MercenaryForHire
Originally posted by: Tabb
Originally posted by: MercenaryForHire
Originally posted by: sandorski
Originally posted by: oneshot47
Originally posted by: sao123
Nothing can touch a Klipsch 5.1 pro ultra.

Apparently youve never heard a good, properly done home stereo set up.

He probably should had said for the price. ;)

Bull. For US$350 (Klipsch 5.1 Promedia) I'd wager you could easily cobble together a cheap HT that would knock its block off. :D

- M4H

Your being challanged. Tell me the stuff I'd need under $350 that'd make me a awesome 5.1 sound setup. This would obiviously be used specifically for a computer that plays games,movies and music.

Okay, so I'm using a bit of hyperbole here. $395 normal, wait for a sale:

Onkyo HT-S760.

Or grab one any HTIAB that's marked down and add your own (better) powered sub.

- M4H

That might do it, though the 5.1 Ultra sub is hard to equal at this low of a budget.
 

Operandi

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Originally posted by: sandorski
Originally posted by: MercenaryForHire
Originally posted by: Tabb
Originally posted by: MercenaryForHire
Originally posted by: sandorski
Originally posted by: oneshot47
Originally posted by: sao123
Nothing can touch a Klipsch 5.1 pro ultra.

Apparently youve never heard a good, properly done home stereo set up.

He probably should had said for the price. ;)

Bull. For US$350 (Klipsch 5.1 Promedia) I'd wager you could easily cobble together a cheap HT that would knock its block off. :D

- M4H

Your being challanged. Tell me the stuff I'd need under $350 that'd make me a awesome 5.1 sound setup. This would obiviously be used specifically for a computer that plays games,movies and music.

Okay, so I'm using a bit of hyperbole here. $395 normal, wait for a sale:

Onkyo HT-S760.

Or grab one any HTIAB that's marked down and add your own (better) powered sub.

- M4H

That might do it, though the 5.1 Ultra sub is hard to equal at this low of a budget.

I don't think any HT in a box is gona beat the pro media's for the price.
 

basslover1

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Main topic at hand, he's blowin smoke up your ass. Not to be rude, but I doubt a company like Creative Labs would actually do something like that in the 80 dollar range, and yes the 'thingamajiggers' behind the mesh is the speakers. Look like 2.5" midranges, nothing spectacular, but for the price...you can't really go wrong I suppose.

As for the 350 dollar challenge, that's really hard to do for a DECENT ht setup...it's tough.

Everything In the forthcoming list requires a little DIY...IE cabinet building, x-over building, tuning...you get the idea.


Front 3-way Towers (x2 on all of them obviously): Dayton DVC 8" midwoofer.

Dayton 4" midrange

Vifa .75" soft dome tweeter.

Rear 2-ways: Peerless 5.5 midwoofer.

Vifa .75" soft dome tweeter


Center channel.

Vifa 1" neodymium tweeter x2

Vifa 4" midwoofer x1

Comes out to about 283.16 for just the speakers.

Throw in cost of supplies to build cabinets, and x-overs...looking around 370 or so, and you got your self one KILLER ht setup.
 

sandorski

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Originally posted by: Operandi
Originally posted by: sandorski
Originally posted by: MercenaryForHire
Originally posted by: Tabb
Originally posted by: MercenaryForHire
Originally posted by: sandorski
Originally posted by: oneshot47
Originally posted by: sao123
Nothing can touch a Klipsch 5.1 pro ultra.

Apparently youve never heard a good, properly done home stereo set up.

He probably should had said for the price. ;)

Bull. For US$350 (Klipsch 5.1 Promedia) I'd wager you could easily cobble together a cheap HT that would knock its block off. :D

- M4H

Your being challanged. Tell me the stuff I'd need under $350 that'd make me a awesome 5.1 sound setup. This would obiviously be used specifically for a computer that plays games,movies and music.

Okay, so I'm using a bit of hyperbole here. $395 normal, wait for a sale:

Onkyo HT-S760.

Or grab one any HTIAB that's marked down and add your own (better) powered sub.

- M4H

That might do it, though the 5.1 Ultra sub is hard to equal at this low of a budget.

I don't think any HT in a box is gona beat the pro media's for the price.

The satellites could be beat, but the sub would be very difficult. The Amp might be hard to match as well, at least with most Box systems.
 

AsianriceX

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Originally posted by: basslover1
Main topic at hand, he's blowin smoke up your ass. Not to be rude, but I doubt a company like Creative Labs would actually do something like that in the 80 dollar range, and yes the 'thingamajiggers' behind the mesh is the speakers. Look like 2.5" midranges, nothing spectacular, but for the price...you can't really go wrong I suppose.

As for the 350 dollar challenge, that's really hard to do for a DECENT ht setup...it's tough.

Everything In the forthcoming list requires a little DIY...IE cabinet building, x-over building, tuning...you get the idea.


Front 3-way Towers (x2 on all of them obviously): Dayton DVC 8" midwoofer.

Dayton 4" midrange

Vifa .75" soft dome tweeter.

Rear 2-ways: Peerless 5.5 midwoofer.

Vifa .75" soft dome tweeter


Center channel.

Vifa 1" neodymium tweeter x2

Vifa 4" midwoofer x1

Comes out to about 283.16 for just the speakers.

Throw in cost of supplies to build cabinets, and x-overs...looking around 370 or so, and you got your self one KILLER ht setup.

You forgot that you need something to drive those speakers, though if I had the know-how, I'd try building my own speakers too.
 

0roo0roo

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good god that creative system is cr@p. it doesn't touch the higher end by klipsch/logitech. let alone creative(cambridge soundworks) the sub on that is pathetic, and those little tweet things are limited no matter what they do. thx is just a cert. and thx for computer speakers is not equivalent to thx for home theater spec. its a different spec.

creative speakers? ;) http://www.cambridgesoundworks...pkm22zz&type=store
 

Operandi

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Originally posted by: basslover1
Main topic at hand, he's blowin smoke up your ass. Not to be rude, but I doubt a company like Creative Labs would actually do something like that in the 80 dollar range, and yes the 'thingamajiggers' behind the mesh is the speakers. Look like 2.5" midranges, nothing spectacular, but for the price...you can't really go wrong I suppose.

As for the 350 dollar challenge, that's really hard to do for a DECENT ht setup...it's tough.

Everything In the forthcoming list requires a little DIY...IE cabinet building, x-over building, tuning...you get the idea.


Front 3-way Towers (x2 on all of them obviously): Dayton DVC 8" midwoofer.

Dayton 4" midrange

Vifa .75" soft dome tweeter.

Rear 2-ways: Peerless 5.5 midwoofer.

Vifa .75" soft dome tweeter


Center channel.

Vifa 1" neodymium tweeter x2

Vifa 4" midwoofer x1

Comes out to about 283.16 for just the speakers.

Throw in cost of supplies to build cabinets, and x-overs...looking around 370 or so, and you got your self one KILLER ht setup.

The problem with building up speakers from scratch is they rarely turn out perfect the 1st time. Whether it be the Xover or the cabinet design odds are something is going sound a bit off from what you expected. If you have the know-how and resources it's a fun project and is a killer in savings. For most people though its a bit much even if you do know what your doing. There are some pretty awesome kits out there though, just follow the instructions and assemble.

Edit, your drivers aren't voice matched, that wouldn't be a very good idea for HT setup. The center channel sucks it should be as near identical to the L/R main channels as possible. Also 3-way isn't practical for this price range.