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Planning to Build A gaming Pc

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justmaine25

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1. What YOUR PC will be used for. That means what types of tasks you'll be performing.
-Gaming And Editing

2. What YOUR budget is. A price range is acceptable as long as it's not more than a 20% spread
-1000 to 1200 Canadian dollar

3. What country YOU will be buying YOUR parts from.
-Canada

4. IF you're buying parts OUTSIDE the US, please post a link to the vendor you'll be buying from.
We can't be expected to scour the internet on your behalf, chasing down deals in your specific country... Again, help us, help YOU.
-http://www.tigerdirect.ca

5. IF YOU have a brand preference. That means, are you an Intel-Fanboy, AMD-Fanboy, ATI-Fanboy, nVidia-Fanboy, Seagate-Fanboy, WD-Fanboy, etc.
-AMD Processor, Nvidia Video card

6. If YOU intend on using any of YOUR current parts, and if so, what those parts are.
-none

7. IF YOU plan on overclocking or run the system at default speeds.
-it will be great to have oc, but if i can still afford it

8. What resolution, not monitor size, will you be using?
-1920x1200 px

9. WHEN do you plan to build it?
Note that it is usually not cost or time effective to choose your build more than a month before you actually plan to be using it.
-next month or around july

X. Do you need to purchase any software to go with the system, such as Windows or Blu Ray playback software?
-still need to buy windows win7 64bit
 
justmaine25 said:
9. WHEN do you plan to build it?
Note that it is usually not cost or time effective to choose your build more than a month before you actually plan to be using it.
-next month or around july
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Start watching for deals on a power supply ~600w suggested (antec, corsair, seasonic are my favorites), ssd and case. You can slowly purchase things to maximize savings, but rebates are almost inevitable and there is increased shipping costs.

Rumor is that nVidia is going to release the next generation this month, and Intel has formally announced Haswell this month as well. The price of Windows is very stable, so delay the purchase unless you can get it as a bundle deal.
 
J Macker said:
Start watching for deals on a power supply ~600w suggested (antec, corsair, seasonic are my favorites), ssd and case. You can slowly purchase things to maximize savings, but rebates are almost inevitable and there is increased shipping costs.

Rumor is that nVidia is going to release the next generation this month, and Intel has formally announced Haswell this month as well. The price of Windows is very stable, so delay the purchase unless you can get it as a bundle deal.
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can i pick higher watts for power suppy? or 600w is better?
 
this is my ideal spec

Mobo: Asus Sabertooth 990FX R2.0 AM3+ Motherboard

Processor :AMD FD8320FRHKBOX FX-8320 Eight-Core 3.5GHz AM3+ Processor - AM3+, Eight-Core, 3.5GHz, 16MB, 125W, Unlocked

ram:8gb

this 3 parts come with bundle.. (439.99 after rebate 429.99 w/o tax)

gpu :Asus Radeon HD 7770 2GB GDDR5 (169.99CD w/o Tax)

PSU: Cooler Master Silent Pro M 850W (159.97CD w/o tax)

HDD: Toshiba HDKPC03 DT01ACA100 1TB Hard Drive - 1TB, 7200 RPM, SATA, 3.5" (69.97CD w/o Tax)

OS: Win7 Pro 64bit (139.99CD)

Case:NZXT Phantom Enthusiast Full Tower (137.99 CD w/o tax)

SSD:OCZ 120GB Agility 3 Series 2.5" SATA III SSD (89.99CD w/o tax)

CD/DVD: no idea

Sound Card: still not decided

Cooling system: no idea

do i still need to add more memory? i can still up my budget till 1.4K without the taxes..
 
justmaine25 said:
this is my ideal spec

Mobo: Asus Sabertooth 990FX R2.0 AM3+ Motherboard

Processor :AMD FD8320FRHKBOX FX-8320 Eight-Core 3.5GHz AM3+ Processor - AM3+, Eight-Core, 3.5GHz, 16MB, 125W, Unlocked

ram:8gb

this 3 parts come with bundle.. (439.99 after rebate 429.99 w/o tax)

gpu :Asus Radeon HD 7770 2GB GDDR5 (169.99CD w/o Tax)

PSU: Cooler Master Silent Pro M 850W (159.97CD w/o tax)

HDD: Toshiba HDKPC03 DT01ACA100 1TB Hard Drive - 1TB, 7200 RPM, SATA, 3.5" (69.97CD w/o Tax)

OS: Win7 Pro 64bit (139.99CD)

Case:NZXT Phantom Enthusiast Full Tower (137.99 CD w/o tax)

SSD:OCZ 120GB Agility 3 Series 2.5" SATA III SSD (89.99CD w/o tax)

CD/DVD: no idea

Sound Card: still not decided

Cooling system: no idea

do i still need to add more memory? i can still up my budget till 1.4K without the taxes..
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So when you asked if 600w was enough and I said 500w was MORE than enough, you thought 850w was the way to go...? Well you were wrong, that is a stupid PSU to buy for your build. With an HD7770 you wont even be hitting 300w at full load.
 
mnewsham said:
So when you asked if 600w was enough and I said 500w was MORE than enough, you thought 850w was the way to go...? Well you were wrong, that is a stupid PSU to buy for your build. With an HD7770 you wont even be hitting 300w at full load.
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then what kind of PSU should i buy..
 
justmaine25 said:
but does 500-600w can support any latest parts to come?
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What do you mean? That 450w unit could run an i5-3570k at 4.0Ghz and a GTX titan.

Here are full load power results on graphics cards, that 450w unit has 420w on the 12v rail so any card that at full load is hitting 400w or less on this chart will run just fine on that PSU

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the cards were tested using this system
CPU: Intel Core i7-3960X @ 4.3GHz
Motherboard: EVGA X79 SLI
Hard Disk: Samsung 470 (256GB)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws DDR3-1867 4 x 4GB (8-10-9-26)


as you can see even with an overclocked 130w CPU a GTX 680 would be pretty comfortable sitting on that 450w PSU, and the 7770 you listed is a LOT less powerful than that.
 
500W is fine for most single GPU systems. But FX8320 is so power hungry, especially when OC'd, that I'd want 550-600W when combined with a high end GPU. But 7770 is midrange GPU with low power consumption... you would be fine with a 400W unit, or 500W if u want to OC/upgrade.
 
mnewsham said:
What do you mean? That 450w unit could run an i5-3570k at 4.0Ghz and a GTX titan.

Here are full load power results on graphics cards, that 450w unit has 420w on the 12v rail so any card that at full load is hitting 400w or less on this chart will run just fine on that PSU

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the cards were tested using this system
CPU: Intel Core i7-3960X @ 4.3GHz
Motherboard: EVGA X79 SLI
Hard Disk: Samsung 470 (256GB)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws DDR3-1867 4 x 4GB (8-10-9-26)


as you can see even with an overclocked 130w CPU a GTX 680 would be pretty comfortable sitting on that 450w PSU, and the 7770 you listed is a LOT less powerful than that.
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oh i see thanks so even i use gtx 660 450-600 psu is still better?
 
lehtv said:
500W is fine for most single GPU systems. But FX8320 is so power hungry, especially when OC'd, that I'd want 550-600W when combined with a high end GPU. But 7770 is midrange GPU with low power consumption... you would be fine with a 400W unit, or 500W if u want to OC/upgrade.
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Even if he OC'd the FX-8320 to the max on air cooling he would likely only see 4.5Ghz which would draw somewhere around 150-175w, and at that point you should be more worried about your motherboard trying to deliver that much stable power to your CPU 😉

I stand by the 450w recommendation unless he ups his GPU by a significant factor, or tells us he will be doing suicide OC runs with liquid nitrogen.
 
lehtv said:
500W is fine for most single GPU systems. But FX8320 is so power hungry, especially when OC'd, that I'd want 550-600W when combined with a high end GPU. But 7770 is midrange GPU with low power consumption... you would be fine with a 400W unit, or 500W if u want to OC/upgrade.
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what if i change my gpu 7770 to gtx 660? do i still need to upgrade my PSU?
 
mnewsham said:
Even if he OC'd the FX-8320 to the max on air cooling he would likely only see 4.5Ghz which would draw somewhere around 150-175w, and at that point you should be more worried about your motherboard trying to deliver that much stable power to your CPU 😉

I stand by the 450w recommendation unless he ups his GPU by a significant factor, or tells us he will be doing suicide OC runs with liquid nitrogen.
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is it bad idea to OC with liquid nitrogen?
 
justmaine25 said:
is it bad idea to OC with liquid nitrogen?
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If you care about the longevity of your motherboard, CPU, and RAM, yes yes it is a bad idea. The only "real" use is for people to try and clock the parts as high as they can for the bragging rights, no one in their right mind would actually use liquid nitrogen cooling for a real gaming computer.
 
mnewsham said:
If you care about the longevity of your motherboard, CPU, and RAM, yes yes it is a bad idea. The only "real" use is for people to try and clock the parts as high as they can for the bragging rights, no one in their right mind would actually use liquid nitrogen cooling for a real gaming computer.
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so what kind of cooling system should i use??
 
justmaine25 said:
so what kind of cooling system should i use??
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Just a simple Hyper 212 EVO is good enough for most people. If you really want to try to wring the last ounce of performance from your CPU though you will need to use something more exotic such as liquid cooling. However for you the Hyper 212 EVO should be more than enough. Or you can try to eek out another 200-400Mhz with something larger like the Phanteks PH-TC14PE

Or you can be happy with your CPU the way it is and keep it not OC'd at all, for the majority of your use you probably wont even notice the OC because your GPU is so low powered anyway.
 
mnewsham said:
Just a simple Hyper 212 EVO is good enough for most people. If you really want to try to wring the last ounce of performance from your CPU though you will need to use something more exotic such as liquid cooling. However for you the Hyper 212 EVO should be more than enough. Or you can try to eek out another 200-400Mhz with something larger like the Phanteks PH-TC14PE

Or you can be happy with your CPU the way it is and keep it not OC'd at all, for the majority of your use you probably wont even notice the OC because your GPU is so low powered anyway.
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even i use gtx 660? the OC will not notice? 660 and 7770 i actually picking with this two gpu..

does liquid cooling is easy to install?coz i never use liquid cooling before i only uses fans
 
justmaine25 said:
even i use gtx 660? the OC will not notice? 660 and 7770 i actually picking with this two gpu..

does liquid cooling is easy to install?coz i never use liquid cooling before i only uses fans
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In gaming more GPU is better than more CPU (for the most part) so no, you probably will not be too CPU limited with a GTX 660, if you had dual 7950's or dual 670's then I would say get a better CPU.

You want a GTX 660 AND an HD 7770? That just isn't going to happen I am not even sure why you'd want to do that.

As for liquid cooling, it is easy enough if you take the time to read up on it and really learn it, however it is not for beginners and it is not something I would recommend for you.
 
mnewsham said:
In gaming more GPU is better than more CPU (for the most part) so no, you probably will not be too CPU limited with a GTX 660, if you had dual 7950's or dual 670's then I would say get a better CPU.

You want a GTX 660 AND an HD 7770? That just isn't going to happen I am not even sure why you'd want to do that.

As for liquid cooling, it is easy enough if you take the time to read up on it and really learn it, however it is not for beginners and it is not something I would recommend for you.
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what i mean is, im choosing which gpu ill use gtx 660 or hd 7770..

then i will take the fan that you recommended ..
 
justmaine25 said:
what i mean is, im choosing which gpu ill use gtx 660 or hd 7770..

then i will take the fan that you recommended ..
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Here is a build that I would recommend for your price range, I can change it a bit if you need a monitor, keyboard, wifi card, etc. But this is a decent base build.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($229.99 @ Amazon Canada)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($29.99 @ NCIX)
Motherboard: Asus P8Z77-V LX ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($119.50 @ Vuugo)
Memory: Patriot G2 Series Division 4 16GB (4 x 4GB) DDR3-1333 Memory ($83.00 @ Vuugo)
Storage: Samsung 840 Series 120GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($99.49 @ NCIX)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($106.49 @ Newegg Canada)
Video Card: PowerColor Radeon HD 7950 3GB Video Card ($269.99 @ NCIX)
Case: Fractal Design Core 3000 USB 3.0 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($69.99 @ NCIX)
Power Supply: Antec 450W ATX12V Power Supply ($39.99 @ NCIX)
Optical Drive: LG GH24NS95 DVD/CD Writer ($17.99 @ NCIX)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($97.99 @ NCIX)
Total: $1164.41
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-05-09 15:59 EDT-0400)



But as others have said, wait until you are actually ready to order the system before getting a full parts list because deals change all the time and depending on what deals are currently available can significantly effect a build.
 
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mnewsham said:
Here is a build that I would recommend for your price range, I can change it a bit if you need a monitor, keyboard, wifi card, etc. But this is a decent base build.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($229.99 @ Amazon Canada)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($29.99 @ NCIX)
Motherboard: Asus P8Z77-V LX ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($119.50 @ Vuugo)
Memory: Patriot G2 Series Division 4 16GB (4 x 4GB) DDR3-1333 Memory ($83.00 @ Vuugo)
Storage: Samsung 840 Series 120GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($99.49 @ NCIX)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($106.49 @ Newegg Canada)
Video Card: PowerColor Radeon HD 7950 3GB Video Card ($269.99 @ NCIX)
Case: Fractal Design Core 3000 USB 3.0 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($69.99 @ NCIX)
Power Supply: Antec 450W ATX12V Power Supply ($39.99 @ NCIX)
Optical Drive: LG GH24NS95 DVD/CD Writer ($17.99 @ NCIX)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($97.99 @ NCIX)
Total: $1164.41
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-05-09 15:59 EDT-0400)



But as others have said, wait until you are actually ready to order the system before getting a full parts list because deals change all the time and depending on what deals are currently available can significantly effect a build.
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i check the mobo its said crossfire support no, but 7950 crossfire support 4way crossfire.. do they have conflict to each other?

does the cpu have OC?
 
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