Planetside 2..Free to play..and looking awesome so far!

[NikolaeVarius]

Lol says who? Its an opinion not fact. "Massively Multiplayer Online" no where in those words does it say how many players it takes to be "massively".

So basically if you want to go by your definition which is taking the 3 words "Massively Multiplayer Online" as the definition of MMO there is no right or wrong on the numbers of players it takes.

You are subjectively coming up with a number yourself to fill in what constitutes massive. And then you are no more right than me in subjectively filling in what MMO means.

Please continue to ignore the fact that you have no premise to work off of because you've been shown to be wrong already and yet refuse to answer ths

Also please ignore the fact that two orders of magnitude on number of players is a significant amount of players that leaves no doubt on the definition of MMO in context of PS2.

No one in the entirely of the gaming communty who has a ounce of common sense would ever consider BF2 an MMO. MAG has 256 players playing on maps large than BF3 maps and it still is not considered an MMO.

So please, continue to keep making stupid arguments because.Its one thing if they were legit greivances, but you don't have anything, You have bitching and a list of arguments that were disproven so you move onto another one.

Really where are you getting your definition? So World of Tanks isnt an MMO because it doesnt have persistent maps?

WoT is not an MMO, no matter how much they advertise it as such. Calling WoT an MMO is like saying BF3 is a good sequel to BF2. It's simply not true.

 

[Arsinek]

Please continue to ignore the fact that you have no premise to work off of because you've been shown to be wrong already and yet refuse to answer ths

Also please ignore the fact that two orders of magnitude on number of players is a significant amount of players that leaves no doubt on the definition of MMO in context of PS2.

No one in the entirely of the gaming communty who has a ounce of common sense would ever consider BF2 an MMO. MAG has 256 players playing on maps large than BF3 maps and it still is not considered an MMO.

So please, continue to keep making stupid arguments because.Its one thing if they were legit greivances, but you don't have anything, You have bitching and a list of arguments that were disproven so you move onto another one.



WoT is not an MMO, no matter how much they advertise it as such. Calling WoT an MMO is like saying BF3 is a good sequel to BF2. It's simply not true.

All Im getting from your posts is a bunch of rage with no substance. What is the point youre trying to make?

 

[SunnyD]

No Matt Higby specifically describes this game as an MMO. To me this game is not an MMO. It has persistent maps, which is one aspect of what I think of an MMO, but thats it. It has no crafting, leveling doesnt really do anything, characters dont have stats, the amount of gear in this game is no more than COD/BF. Think of how many weapons your character has access to in WoW. In PS2 you have like, what 5 per class? The environments are static, you cant interact with them. Again, this game should have been marketed as an Online Shooter not an MMO.

And ya its a disappointment to me. I dont recall saying its been universally declared a disappointment.

And Im comparing it to EVE because EVE is an MMO.

As has been pointed out, the elements you're talking about are "RPG" elements, and have absolutely nothing to do with the "MMO"-ness of the game, period. "Massively Multiplayer Online". That's what MMO means.

Again, this game should have been marketed as an Online Shooter not an MMO.

Big, bold, and underlined, quoted a second time, to reiterate...

THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT PLANETSIDE 2 IS MARKETED AS!!!!

It's a massively multiplayer online first-person shooter! This isn't rocket science!

 

[Arsinek]

As has been pointed out, the elements you're talking about are "RPG" elements, and have absolutely nothing to do with the "MMO"-ness of the game, period. "Massively Multiplayer Online". That's what MMO means.



Big, bold, and underlined, quoted a second time, to reiterate...

THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT PLANETSIDE 2 IS MARKETED AS!!!!

It's a massively multiplayer online first-person shooter! This isn't rocket science!

Uh oh, the rage is spreading. No where in "Massively Multiplayer Online" does it say how many players it takes to be massive. So in that case BF3 is an MMO.

 

[NikolaeVarius]

As has been pointed out, the elements you're talking about are "RPG" elements, and have absolutely nothing to do with the "MMO"-ness of the game, period. "Massively Multiplayer Online". That's what MMO means.



Big, bold, and underlined, quoted a second time, to reiterate...

THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT PLANETSIDE 2 IS MARKETED AS!!!!

It's a massively multiplayer online first-person shooter! This isn't rocket science!

It's not going through his thick skull that he has a false premise on what this game is/marketed as.

Any evidence to the contrary is marked off as "rage" and promptly forgotten about in his little dead.

 

[SunnyD]

Uh oh, the rage is spreading. No where in "Massively Multiplayer Online" does it say how many players it takes to be massive. So in that case BF3 is an MMO.

Why are you grasping at straws dude?

We get it. PS2 isn't for you. Be on your merry way then.

edit: Let me ask you this then? Where do you want to draw the line? Where's the cutoff? 10,000? 1,000? 200? 64? How about 10? Is 10 massively multiplayer? Why stop there... let's go with 2. Two is now massively multiple. Yay! Contra is now a massively multiplayer game! Konami got it right so many years ago!!!

You're trying to prove some unknown point (other than okay, PS2 isn't your cup of tea) with arbitrary self-imposed technicalities. See how ridiculous of an argument you're trying to make now?

 

[Arsinek]

It's not going through his thick skull that he has a false premise on what this game is/marketed as.

Any evidence to the contrary is marked off as "rage" and promptly forgotten about in his little dead.

Why are you grasping at straws dude?

We get it. PS2 isn't for you. Be on your merry way then.

Lol. I dont think Im the one grasping. If you want to make the definition of MMO literal, there is no number of players listed in "Massive Multiplayer Online". Its opinion on what is massive, therefore BF3 can fall within this definition of MMO.

As far as the number I dont have one because I dont base my definition of MMO off the 3 words "Massively" "Multiplayer" "Online", I base it off my experiences of playing MMOs. Massively isnt a number its a description which is opinion.

 

[WelshBloke]

If you want to argue that BF3 is a MMOFPS thats up to you. I dont see what that has to do with PS2 though.

 

[SunnyD]

Lol. I dont think Im the one grasping. If you want to make the definition of MMO literal, there is no number of players listed in "Massive Multiplayer Online". Its opinion on what is massive, therefore BF3 can fall within this definition of MMO.

As far as the number I dont have one because I dont base my definition of MMO off the 3 words "Massively" "Multiplayer" "Online", I base it off my experiences of playing MMOs. Massively isnt a number its a description which is opinion.

Okay, good. So we're on the same page, and Contra is a Massively Multiplayer game then. :thumbsup:

Now, all we have to do is get you to understand the difference between the acronyms "MMO" and "RPG", "FPS", "RTS", etc. Then I think you might have a chance at understanding why your arguments here are ridiculous.

 

[Arsinek]

Okay, good. So we're on the same page, and Contra is a Massively Multiplayer game then. :thumbsup:

Now, all we have to do is get you to understand the difference between the acronyms "MMO" and "RPG", "FPS", "RTS", etc. Then I think you might have a chance at understanding why your arguments here are ridiculous.

Well I see youve ran out of straws.

 

[SunnyD]

Well I see youve ran out of straws.

Sure, I'll play.

I don't need straws. I'm not the one that thinks Planetside 2 sucks.

 

[WelshBloke]

Well I see youve ran out of straws.

But your argument seems to be that PS2 is not a MMO game because BF3 can have 64 players.

And you're accusing him of grasping straws.

 

[Arsinek]

If you want to argue that BF3 is a MMOFPS thats up to you. I dont see what that has to do with PS2 though.

It bothered people that I brought up PS2 is more like BF3 than it is like an MMO even though the devs marketed it as an MMO.

 

[SunnyD]

It bothered people that I brought up PS2 is more like BF3 than it is like an MMO even though the devs marketed it as an MMO.

Because you're using the term "MMO" incorrectly and interchangeably with "RPG", which it's not.

 

[Arsinek]

Sure, I'll play.

I don't need straws. I'm not the one that thinks Planetside 2 sucks.

Ok. Im glad you enjoy it. /shrug

 

[WelshBloke]

It bothered people that I brought up PS2 is more like BF3 than it is like an MMO even though the devs marketed it as an MMO.

Why isnt it a MMO game?

Just because its more like BF3 than WOW doesn't mean its not a MMO game.

 

[Arsinek]

Why isnt it a MMO game?

Just because its more like BF3 than WOW doesn't mean its not a MMO game.

I guess my point is can BF3 start marketing itself as a MMO now?

 

[WelshBloke]

I guess my point is can BF3 start marketing itself as a MMO now?

I neither know nor care, and it seems fairly irrelevant as this thread is about PS2.

 

[SunnyD]

I guess my point is can BF3 start marketing itself as a MMO now?

Sure. According to our criteria that we've established, so can Pong. :thumbsup:

 

[Arsinek]

I neither know nor care, and it seems fairly irrelevant as this thread is about PS2.

Then why are you asking? If you have something to say about PS2 no one is stopping you.

 

[Red Storm]

Maybe it's just me then, but there's a big difference between 64 people playing together compared to 1000. Heck PS2 is more massive than many MMORPGs because many of those games use instancing and multiple servers to split up players.

 

[Arsinek]

Sure. According to our criteria that we've established, so can Pong. :thumbsup:

Lol exactly.

 

[WelshBloke]

Then why are you asking? If you have something to say about PS2 no one is stopping you.

I didnt ask about BF3. I asked why PS2 isnt (in your not so humble opinion) MMO.

What BF3 is or isnt has nothing to do with it and is totally off topic for this thread.

 

[Arsinek]

I didnt ask about BF3. I asked why PS2 isnt (in your not so humble opinion) MMO.

What BF3 is or isnt has nothing to do with it and is totally off topic for this thread.

It depends on your (humble) definition of MMO, which is what all the rage is about. The people in this tread in some instances want to take MMO literally but in other instances dont. No where in MMO does it say "Persistent Map" or "100s or 1000s of players".

And BF3 has to do with it because if you take the definition of MMO literally BF3 can be an MMO.

 

[WelshBloke]

It depends on your (humble) definition of MMO, which is what all the rage is about. The people in this tread in some instances want to take MMO literally but in other instances dont. No where in MMO does it say "Persistent Map" or "100s or 1000s of players".

And BF3 has to do with it because if you take the definition of MMO literally BF3 can be an MMO.

Link.

I dont think that many people would argue that PS2 is not a MMOG. I really think that you are wrong here. Theres no rage involved, its simply that you are wrong.