Plane crash in northern kentucky :(

[MetalMat]

Just found out this morning that there was a fatal plane crash in Northern Kentucky. I flew from that airport to Nashville, TN yesterday under the same operator.

 

[blurredvision]

Holy sh!t!!! Watching on the local news right now.....

EDIT: They are reporting 49 of the 50 dead (47 passengers, 3 crew) on the local news, although CNN.com says all 50 are presumed.

EDIT2: One person did survive, but it in critical condition at a local hospital, one of the best thankfully.

 

[Engineer]

I live in Lexington (just a few miles from the airport) and it's been on the news all morning (all stations). From early reports, the pilot may have taken off on the wrong runway. He was supposed to take off on a 7,000 foot runway and instead, took off on a 3,500 foot runway. There were storms in the area at the time also which might have caused runway selection confusion.

VERY SAD!

Edit: From initial reports, there is only one survivor and it is reported that it's either the pilor or co-pilot.

 

[NEWKILLA]

wow-that sucks

bad scene-VERY SAD STUFF

RIP:brokenheart:

*k*

 

[0]

sad.

 

[Scouzer]

I feel bad for the controllers...

I have not yet had a crash yet at work, but I know some that have...it really fvcks them up...

 

[tyler811]

:brokenheart:

 

[NFS4]

Sad

Please don't let this be terrorism related. PLEASE, PLEASE!! The politicians will find yet ANOTHER reason to put fear into the minds of Americans

 

[blurredvision]

Originally posted by: Engineer
From early reports, the pilot may have taken off on the wrong runway. He was supposed to take off on a 7,000 foot runway and instead, took off on a 3,500 foot runway.

From the map they are showing on TV of the crash site compared to the two runways, this is definitely the case. There's no way that plane took off from the longer runway like it should have.

Here's my own map I made to bring across what they are showing on the local news (using Google Earth): crash.JPG.

 

[Scouzer]

...ATC should have thought "hmmm...an RJ is a piece of crap, it shouldn't take off that runway". that runway would be quite below minimum TORA required for a CRJ... then you add 900ish ft MSL + warmer temperatures...even longer minimums...

pilot/copilot fault, not terrorism.

 

[jadinolf]

One survivor in critical condition according to FNC.

 

[blurredvision]

Originally posted by: jadinolf
One survivor in critical condition according to FNC.

My sister-in-law is a nurse on the 1st floor of the hospital the survivor is currently at (currently undergoing surgery). Luckily, she didn't have to work today, otherwise it would be a media frenzy over there right now. A local girl got hit by a train at some point in the past year, and she couldn't get work done because of the media that crowded that place. I can only imagine this is many times worse.......

 

[EKKC]

one survivor, 49 dead, this sounds like an old cancelled series... he has weird luck or something afterwards...

 

[aswedc]

Sucks to be the survivor if he's the pilot who chose the wrong runway...

 

[BrunoPuntzJones]

Originally posted by: aswedc
Sucks to be the survivor if he's the pilot who chose the wrong runway...

No joke, I imagine with that much sorrow he'd make himself be the last one dead

 

[blurredvision]

Reports on the local news say there was one person at work in the tower at the time of takeoff. Also, the smaller runway was used only during daylight hours, and wasn't even lit, whereas the longer, main runway was lit at the time. The two runways cross each other, which can be seen in my graphic in an earlier post.

They've also said that according the plane manufacturer's website, a fully-loaded plane of this type needs 5,009 feet of runway to take off....the shorter runway they used was only 3,500 feet long.

 

[TripleAAA]

It's kinda crazy. I just moved here a week ago and flew into the airport where that plane took out from. The crash site is like 3-5 miles from my house.

 

[blurredvision]

Originally posted by: TripleAAA
It's kinda crazy. I just moved here a week ago and flew into the airport where that plane took out from. The crash site is like 3-5 miles from my house.

They keep talking about a couple who were just married last night, and were on their way to their honeymoon early this morning who died on the flight. This was me just 3 months ago, leaving early Sunday morning on my honeymoon from this airport. It's kinda freaky when I think about it.

 

[spidey07]

Originally posted by: blurredvision

Originally posted by: TripleAAA
It's kinda crazy. I just moved here a week ago and flew into the airport where that plane took out from. The crash site is like 3-5 miles from my house.

They keep talking about a couple who were just married last night, and were on their way to their honeymoon early this morning who died on the flight. This was me just 3 months ago, leaving early Sunday morning on my honeymoon from this airport. It's kinda freaky when I think about it.

yeah, I just flew out of there last week and maybe doing it again in the coming weeks. It's a freaky feeling.

Very sad, bucause this could have been prevented. I'm sure some rules are going to change. Seems like when a preventable accident occurs the NTSB puts countermeasures in place.

Still very sad.

 

[Dunbar]

Originally posted by: Scouzer
...ATC should have thought "hmmm...an RJ is a piece of crap, it shouldn't take off that runway". that runway would be quite below minimum TORA required for a CRJ

If it was foggy, the tower wouldn't know which runway they were taking off from. They would give the instructions to taxi to the longer runway and it would be up to the pilots to get there (since I doubt they have ground radar at such a small airport.) I would think a CRJ could get off the ground in 3500 feet of ground roll.

 

[AnyMal]

If it was indeed a pilot error, it wouldn't surprise me a bit. Comair is Delta's sweatshop for brand new pilots. These pilots are usually fresh out of Comair's Academy trying to log some hours. They make a ridiculously low wage for an airline pilot, and are often undertrained.

 

[Insane3D]

I'm going to be flying into and out of Lexington next month for an install. My flights will also be connecting flights...but to NC.

Good thing I'm not worried about plane crashes...

 

[Scouzer]

Originally posted by: Dunbar

Originally posted by: Scouzer
...ATC should have thought "hmmm...an RJ is a piece of crap, it shouldn't take off that runway". that runway would be quite below minimum TORA required for a CRJ

If it was foggy, the tower wouldn't know which runway they were taking off from. They would give the instructions to taxi to the longer runway and it would be up to the pilots to get there (since I doubt they have ground radar at such a small airport.) I would think a CRJ could get off the ground in 3500 feet of ground roll.

Nope...look at previous posts, the RJ needs a minimum of 5007ft...that's not accounting for 900FT MSL and temperature correction.

But I didn't read it was foggy...definitely 100% pilot fault.

 

[spidey07]

Originally posted by: Scouzer
Nope...look at previous posts, the RJ needs a minimum of 5007ft...that's not accounting for 900FT MSL and temperature correction.

But I didn't read it was foggy...definitely 100% pilot fault.

I am not associated nor do I possess the knowledge to make this comment. And it ticks me off the media's push to find out at such a early stage of 'who's to blame!!!'

wouldn't one think a controller should have picked up on this and quickly aborted the take off?????

 

[GTaudiophile]

No matter who made the call, the Captain was responsible for the aircraft. Lucky for him he died.

The black boxes still may show the First Officer to be in the wrong. We'll see.

My prayers go out to all 50 of them and their families!