Planar 19" LCD for $590 (DEAD)

[HardWired]

Unfortunately Jim, you are right. Since the PX171 is a 16 ms. LCD display, I was assuming (hoping, actually) that this new 19" model with the PX prefix they are sending to market was also a 16 ms. display. But I did see the data sheet and it looks like what they changed from the PL191 to the PX191 is higher brightness and contrast settings. With brightness at 300 rather than 250, and 700:1 as compared to a 500:1 contrast ratio.

It also has a much thinner (silver) bezel (like the Samsung/Dell) and the "quad stand", that allows for one-touch adjusting...including landscape to portrait mode, which previously only the 17" model did. Maybe they changed the look in hopes to get a contract with Dell and have Dell re-badge them under the Dell name w/o anyone noticing a difference. It would obviously be a smart move on Planar's part. And the landscape to portrait adjustment is a totally cool feature that every LCD maker should adopt.

But you're right...still no 16 ms. pixel response time according to the data sheet. Bummer :frown:

While all the above mentioned new features are obviously a welcome sight to the 19 incher, having the PL191 and being satisfied with it's current birhgtness/contrast numbers and features, I was really hoping for the 19" size and the faster response time

 

[HardWired]

Cool, Carl. Do you have one now or did you order it recently? You'll have to let us know how it performs.

No matter what, while I tolerated going from a 20" viewable 21" CRT that I've had for the last 3 years to the 19" Planar I now have and losing only the one inch viewable space, not even for a faster response time could I go from a 20 viewable back to a 17. That's just giving up too much real estate for me.

I don't run games that much to make it worth the downsizing.

 

[Chadder007]

Originally posted by: FiLeZz
I know the 1900fp sucks for games cause I have one.. how about the planar 19"

DO you use the DVI connection on the unit and also run it at native resolution? If not, this would cause problems.

 

[nikkai]

Bump for an amazing deal if you got a 20% off coupon from small business!

Checked my mail today, jaw dropped.
Ran to computer, inputed code.
Inputed stackable 10% (expiring tonight)
Ebates 2%
Rebate 30
Tax: 7.75%

Total: 496.88

Me happy. Even if it doesn't move around and do a little dance like the PX does. =)

 

[Superunknown]

I'm in the market for a 19" FP. Are there better LCD's out there than the Planar? I dont want to spend more than $800 and want something with a great picture, especially text and graphics. Dont care too much about games. Digital connection would be nice. THanks!

 

[HardWired]

Superunknown...You should probably take this question to the IWANNA thread, since there are a few quality 19" LCD's out there. Here's a link anyway from the AT Video Forum from earlier in this thread:

Review: Dell 1900FP vs Planar 191M

 

[amdi8]

Originally posted by: GnatGoSplat
There already are 19" monitors that support 1600x1200. Look at Planar's lineup, there's at least one.
You'll probably never find them in the mainstream, because the majority of people don't want such a high resolution.

I didn't know they already made 19" LCDs at 1600x1200. Thanks for the heads up. Unfortunately I did some brief checking, and prices seem to be around $1K still. Maybe in a year or so.

As for the high resolution, most 17" LCDs come with 1280x1024, so it would be only natural for 19" LCDs to be 1600x1200. Things would look just as big on the screen.

 

[GnatGoSplat]

Originally posted by: amdi8

I didn't know they already made 19" LCDs at 1600x1200. Thanks for the heads up. Unfortunately I did some brief checking, and prices seem to be around $1K still. Maybe in a year or so.

As for the high resolution, most 17" LCDs come with 1280x1024, so it would be only natural for 19" LCDs to be 1600x1200. Things would look just as big on the screen.

I think this question was asked of Samsung (in the FP1900 review on this site). Their answer mentioned something about people prefer 1280x1024 in a 19" LCD so that's why there's been no push for 1600x1200.
I suppose it makes sense, I always ran my 21" CRT in 1280, 1600x1200 was just too tiny for my eyes. 1280 on my 19" LCD is about perfect with no strain to read the text. Considering most middle aged people, even those with decent vision, have to whip out reading glasses to read small text, it's no surprise that everyone wants 1280 on a 19".

 

[Stout]

Finally got back home and going to try the FP 1900 that has been sitting here for a few days. Will post my impressions.

 

[ericlp]

Got a couple of Dell 18.1" for like 360 bucks a pop. Try and beat that. Just wait 3 months I guess.

Anyway. I have the Planar 19" @ work. I have played a few games it's just as bright and sharp tho it is a bit slower. I can see more ghosting on the Plannar vs. dell @ home. Tho, it is a good monitor and I didn't have any problems with it. I would use this monitor to play games on. Tho, you wouldn't think 1 inch would make that much of a diff. But sadly it does. Even tho I like my dells I am going to wait till the 19 or 20" LCD's get to be DIRT cheap before I upgrade. I am think 21-25" LCD's by next year this time should be about 3-400 range. Even cheaper with a deal. I am even holding out for an LCD Big Screen TV! Not gonna buy those 65" 350 lbs TV's. I'll Wait for a 65" LCD 60 lbs, and 4" Thick LCD.

The new thing out new is a negative charge being placed on the screen to produce pure black. That would be cool. I suspect by next year the LCD's will have improved the refresh times to less then 10 MS.

So if you going to upgrade and try to get rid of that 21" trinitron now is the time before they tell you have to pay 200 bucks to dump the 20lbs of lead. Last time I tried taking my monitor to the dump they wouldn't let me do it. Funny that they will let you take TV's to the dump but not Computer CRT's. What gives?

 

[Johnniewalker]

My 3 Arrived. Being used for work (@work) no games and they are PURDY!

Rebates are in the mail. 3 different names, 3 different addresses, one receipt. Hope it works, it should!

___________
:beer::beer::beer:

 

[nikkai]

Has this happened to any of you guys w/ this monitor?

all my videos (regardless of type, avi mpeg etc) go full screen w/o me doing anything and the only way I can exit is Alt+F4.

Although windows itself doesn't make it go full screen, I can still press stop w/ the mouse if I can find it while it's covered by the movie.

This sucks. I love this monitor but the heck is wrong with its resolution autostretching. =/

Thanks.

Dom

 

[HardWired]

That's not the monitor. That's a Windows setting. The monitor will only display what it's told to display. Are you referring to Windows Media Player when you say your videos all go full screen? If so, under the "View" setting across the top, there is a setting "Full Screen". Check to see if you have that checked or not.

But in short, a monitor doesn't just decide to display things full screen. It doesn't have any kind of processor or OS or anything that makes it a "smart" component". Again, it will only display what it's told to display by the software that's sending info to it. Or if it's DVD software, check that for a "Full Screen" option/setting. Something somewhere is telling your videos to go full screen, but it's certainly not the monitor deciding to do it on it's own.

 

[GnatGoSplat]

Now even cheaper! 20% off makes this monitor $555 through Dell Small Business.
Even cheaper if you have the 5% off coupon code (which unfortunately, I don't have, so anyone feeling generous feel free to PM me one).

 

[HardWired]

Where do you see that price? Both the Home and SB pages have it listed at $693

 

[GnatGoSplat]

Add it to your cart, you should see the 20% discount (-$138.60).
Too bad the rebate expired yesterday.

 

[Carl Uman]

Originally posted by: HardWired
Cool, Carl. Do you have one now or did you order it recently? You'll have to let us know how it performs.

Just came in the mail yesterday but I'm waiting on more parts... have to order a few too :Q Someone on eopinions did a review on one that was good.

 

[nikkai]

The reason why I believe it has something to do w/ the monitor is when I plug my CRT back in, the media player ran at normal size.

It's not just for media player. Everything tries to maximize to full screen resolution regardless of what type (rm, mpeg, avi)


Here's a question, in Dispaly Properties, under monitors, does it actually list out PL191M? or does it say default or plug and play monitor?

Thanks.

Dom

 

[HardWired]

Are you running it from a analog output on your video card or a DVI output? Regardless, no it won't say PL191 in Device Manager. But do this anyway if you haven't already done so.

On the monitor under Device Manager, choose "Update Driver" then choose "Install from a list or specific location" and click Next. From there, click "Don't search, I will choose the driver to install". Then on the next screen, uncheck the box that is probably checked that says "Show compatible hardware" and a long list under "Manufacturer" will appear. Click on "(Standard monitor types)", then in the box on the right labeled "Model", choose "Digital Flat Panel (1280x1024)". Then click "Next", then "Finish", and you're all set.

Hope that helps.