Plagarismo from the simpsons

[Babbles]

I loved Futurama, and thought it was much more witty than even the Simpsons. I don't like Family Guy very much, I'll watch it when it's on but it really isn't my thing, so to speak.

In fact I think the writing for Family Guy is absolutely atrocious, horrible, and half-witted. I would argue it has some of the worse writing for any prime-time sitcom. They do throw in pop culture references (over abundantly so in my opinion) and people think that is somehow "clever" but the reality is the writers for Family Guy are hoping that silly pop culture references will generate the laughs that their writing fails to deliver.

In my opinion Family Guy lacks originality, creativity, and good dialogue; therefore, I fail to see how people seem to think it is a wonderful show. Yes, the Simpsons has gone down hill a bit however I do think the past two seasons were pretty decent. I imagine it has got to be somewhat difficult to keep a show running for ten years and still manage to keep it fresh.

 

[wfbberzerker]

so ...

if it wasn't for the simpsons, you think that family guy would have existed?

its impossible to say. does family guy borrow from simpsons? yes, i'd say so. does family guy plagarize? to say that, you would have to say that the ideas that family guy took from the simpsons were originally created by the simpsons, which in many cases is not true. as corporaterecreation said, the simpsons did not create the dysfunctional family, which is one point commonly made by fans of the simpsons (i.e. the fat, sarcastic, idiotic father - that idea is present in many family sitcoms - married with children for example, which was already mentioned).

i remember seeing a ytmnd with a point-by-point comparison of many of the plots "stolen" from the simpsons by family guy. while its true that the simpsons may have done episodes about many ideas that were later done in family guy, its simply ignorant to say that family guy copied the simpsons because you cannot say that the simpsons was the first to do them all.

so, back to your question, i can't really say whether or not family guy would have been created without the simpsons. then again, there are lots of shows that i imagine have been influenced by the simpsons.

and, as was said on south park, the simpsons have been around forever. they've done a show about everything, so its impossible to come up with an idea they haven't done.

 

[AznAnarchy99]

Simpsons are no longer funny so it really doesnt matter to me.

Family Guy and American Dad is where its at now

 

[Gothgar]

wow I could kill myself trying to read some of your guys comments

 

[Perknose]

How many of you who saw the last Simpson's episode caught Homer doing his Mussolini imitation on the balcony?

 

[HamburgerBoy]

Originally posted by: Don Rodriguez
Spongebob is the funniest show on television, ever.

Fixed.

 

[Al Neri]

Originally posted by: wfbberzerker


and, as was said on south park, the simpsons have been around forever. they've done a show about everything, so its impossible to come up with an idea they haven't done.

taking the cop out root?


ultimately the answer is, Family Guy would never have existed if it wasn't for the simpsons, anyone who says otherwise knows that they are wrong.

 

[EpsiIon]

Originally posted by: Babbles
I loved Futurama, and thought it was much more witty than even the Simpsons. I don't like Family Guy very much, I'll watch it when it's on but it really isn't my thing, so to speak.

In fact I think the writing for Family Guy is absolutely atrocious, horrible, and half-witted. I would argue it has some of the worse writing for any prime-time sitcom. They do throw in pop culture references (over abundantly so in my opinion) and people think that is somehow "clever" but the reality is the writers for Family Guy are hoping that silly pop culture references will generate the laughs that their writing fails to deliver.

In my opinion Family Guy lacks originality, creativity, and good dialogue; therefore, I fail to see how people seem to think it is a wonderful show. Yes, the Simpsons has gone down hill a bit however I do think the past two seasons were pretty decent. I imagine it has got to be somewhat difficult to keep a show running for ten years and still manage to keep it fresh.

Futurama, FTW!

I have to agree on most counts. Family Guy used to have its moments. Now it doesn't even have those. Neither does American Dad. Both are currently horrible shows based almost entirely on shock value/stupid humor.

 

[Goosemaster]

didn't really do anything for me.

they key to the simpsons was that they emulated the great sitcoms of the past, the great movies, and the great situations, but took advatage of their ability to introduce the absurb.

they screwed that all up when the writers left.

as strange as this might sound, the simpsons is no longer realistic.


remember the fight betweem homer and bush? that wasn't the best example but it did the job. ignoring the bug scene, the bitterness between them was executed really well.

or back further to the mother of satires, the Burn's mayoral race.

that was truly a joy to watch. the writers made everyone act their roles really role with just a bit of loonicy for added fun (the three eyed fish)

It was honestly liek catching a bit of the producers or some other legendary broadway comedy except with none of the pomp and circumstance, and with none of the physical and contexual limits😀

this last episode, which I caught by accident as i gave up on them long ago, was really dissapointing. the situations were really predictable, not that they haven't always been, but the drama is so dull that it is a chore to watch.

i want homer to piss off someone important and get scared.

I want homer to act infintile but modest like he used to .

I want lisa to be smart but only momentarily proactive.

I want what they will not give me, and what they give me is crap.


In its earlier seasons It still stands as my favorite tv show , and its capacity to make me fall off my chair and spit my drink all over the place on rgular ocassions did indeed make it into Futurama.

It had a good run.
[/simpsons]

 

[wfbberzerker]

Originally posted by: Don Rodriguez

Originally posted by: wfbberzerker


and, as was said on south park, the simpsons have been around forever. they've done a show about everything, so its impossible to come up with an idea they haven't done.

taking the cop out root?


ultimately the answer is, Family Guy would never have existed if it wasn't for the simpsons, anyone who says otherwise knows that they are wrong.

ok, so what does that prove?

 

[AsianriceX]

Originally posted by: GoodRevrnd
There's often a fine line between parody and plagiarism. I think what it really boils down to is the Simpson's pioneered the delivery.

I'm not gonna argue against the fact that Simpsons took a major hill downhill, and that in it's current state FG is definitely funnier. I even like FG a lot, but the fact is the show is heavily comprised of cheap one liner's and punctuated by relatively out of place pop culture references. It really plays more like a standup routine than a fluid show with plot.

I used to think Family Guy was absolutely hilarious, but as of late, it's just gotten annoying. I mean, it has its moments, but the repetitive one liners are a little ridiculous.

I'm not sure if it was a new episode, but it involved Lois' deranged brother killing fat people. Peter kept saying "Bam! Right in the kisser!" to aggravate him, but it was more annoying than funny. I mean, the whole repetitive bit was funny back when Peter hit his knee and he would hurt over it for about 15 seconds... but now it's just drawn out and stupid.

 

[Al Neri]

Originally posted by: wfbberzerker

Originally posted by: Don Rodriguez

Originally posted by: wfbberzerker


and, as was said on south park, the simpsons have been around forever. they've done a show about everything, so its impossible to come up with an idea they haven't done.

taking the cop out root?


ultimately the answer is, Family Guy would never have existed if it wasn't for the simpsons, anyone who says otherwise knows that they are wrong.

ok, so what does that prove?

my point!

 

[Schadenfreude]

Futurama >*

 

[Syrch]

that was funny

 

[Acanthus]

Originally posted by: CorporateRecreation

Originally posted by: Don Rodriguez

Originally posted by: CorporateRecreation
but the simpsons didn't pioneer the disfunctional sitcom family...

they may not have been the first, but I'd venture to say they've been the longest running dysfunctional sitcom, if they didn't perfect it...

and either way, they brought (rebrought if you think the jetsons and flintstones were legitimate) the animated dysfunctional family to the limelight, and paved the way for family guy.

also i don't think the writers from the better simpsons episodes jumped ship to futurama, i could be wrong, but i don't think so. either way i've seen about 30+ episodes of futurama, enough for me to realize i dont like it.

Most of the good writers are long gone, people like Conan, etc.
And if you don't find Futurama entertaining you need to watch more closely. The humor isn't as obvious as a simple 'doh' 😉

Thats what i loved about futurama, there were jokes on every level, from the upfront dirty weird jokes to the really suttle ones most people dont catch. Like in one episode where fry and bender crawl through a steam pipe and then in the next scene all of his clothes shrank.

I actually noticed that the simpsons kinda tanked right around when futurama started airing, groening no longer works on the simpsons? I honestly thought he worked on both shows at the same time. It would explain a lot of things if he doesnt.

 

[Al Neri]

imo... futurama is horrible, not worth the airtime it was given... but thats just my opinion.

however futurama MAY have existed if it wasn't for the simpsons, but sure as sh!t Family Guy wouldn't have.

 

[BigJ]

Originally posted by: Don Rodriguez
imo... futurama is horrible, not worth the airtime it was given... but thats just my opinion.

however futurama MAY have existed if it wasn't for the simpsons, but sure as sh!t Family Guy wouldn't have.

And without Married... with Children, there's a possibility the Simpsons may not have existed.

 

[Al Neri]

Originally posted by: BigJ

Originally posted by: Don Rodriguez
imo... futurama is horrible, not worth the airtime it was given... but thats just my opinion.

however futurama MAY have existed if it wasn't for the simpsons, but sure as sh!t Family Guy wouldn't have.

And without Married... with Children, there's a possibility the Simpsons may not have existed.

Family Guy would not have existed without the Simpsons.

 

[BigJ]

Originally posted by: Don Rodriguez

Originally posted by: BigJ

Originally posted by: Don Rodriguez
imo... futurama is horrible, not worth the airtime it was given... but thats just my opinion.

however futurama MAY have existed if it wasn't for the simpsons, but sure as sh!t Family Guy wouldn't have.

And without Married... with Children, there's a possibility the Simpsons may not have existed.

Family Guy would not have existed without the Simpsons.

I'm simply pointing that out because you're acting as if the Simpsons is the god of all telelvison that involves a family and a middle-aged obnoxious father that hates his job and does hilarious but assinine things.

Also, there's a GOOD chance that the Simpsons wouldn't have even survived on Fox without Married... with Children because of the raunchier comedy that MWC introduced. It helped turn Fox into a more respectable and powerful station, and helped pave the way on the station for satire like the Simpsons.

Also, it still doesn't change the fact the Simpsons hasn't even been funny since around Season 12ish.

 

[MagicConch]

I don't think FG is too derviative in nature, at least any moreso than the Simpsons (too many dumb husband, attractive smart wife, smart-aleck-son shows to name). Simpsons never did random sketches in the middle of a show not attached to the story line. Jetsons were the real pioneer of primetime animation.

 

[Demon-Xanth]

Originally posted by: Don Rodriguez
ill start with a fat all american guy as the main character who's always coming up with schemes and hitches to get out of work and further advance his lifestyle.

Sounds like Fred Flintstone, who plagerized the Honeymooners....

 

[Al Neri]

Originally posted by: BigJ

Originally posted by: Don Rodriguez

Originally posted by: BigJ

Originally posted by: Don Rodriguez
imo... futurama is horrible, not worth the airtime it was given... but thats just my opinion.

however futurama MAY have existed if it wasn't for the simpsons, but sure as sh!t Family Guy wouldn't have.

And without Married... with Children, there's a possibility the Simpsons may not have existed.

Family Guy would not have existed without the Simpsons.

I'm simply pointing that out because you're acting as if the Simpsons is the god of all telelvison that involves a family and a middle-aged obnoxious father that hates his job and does hilarious but assinine things.

Also, there's a GOOD chance that the Simpsons wouldn't have even survived on Fox without Married... with Children because of the raunchier comedy that MWC introduced. It helped turn Fox into a more respectable and powerful station, and helped pave the way on the station for satire like the Simpsons.

Also, it still doesn't change the fact the Simpsons hasn't even been funny since around Season 12ish.

its relative... because that consensus exists, its accepted as canon... that's not always true.

The reason I'm making the simpsons the "god of all telelvison that involves a family and a middle-aged obnoxious father that hates his job and does hilarious but assinine things. " is because it took what was out there... put a spin on it...[[ (according to recounts from older people, i was born in 1982) the Jetsons were more or less a joke and not regarded as a work of intelligence alike the simpsons (which has had numerous write ups in the NYT, for one)]] animation...

and its not the longest-running American animated television series in television history, and the longest-running sitcom in the history of American television for no reason.

Simpsons never did random sketches in the middle of a show not attached to the story line.

i don't think you've watched the simpsons much? or your a super family guy fanboy? or don't really pay attention?

 

[oddyager]

Meh, whether or not FG would have existed with or without the Simpsons is an open debate. Point is, a creator took a chance by throwing an idea that an animated cartoon on primetime tv would work and a studio gave it a shot. I'm sure the same shot would have been given for ANY cartoon had Simpsons never happened.

Funny episode though.

 

[BigJ]

Originally posted by: Don Rodriguez

and its not the longest-running American animated television series in television history, and the longest-running sitcom in the history of American television for no reason.

That still doesn't change the fact that the most recent seasons have been mediocre at best.

It's like your faithful dog you don't want to put down, but should've years ago.

 

[purbeast0]

so does anyone have a vid cap of this part damnit?