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Pizza Hut Delivery guy fired for defending himself (with a gun)

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Sorry but your wrong.

No you shouldn't shoot someone in the head, wait around a minute or even a few seconds and then empty a clip into them. That's an obvious no no. People can hear the shots or the lack thereof.

The point is if your going to use a gun use it. If the guy is unarmed then yeah you can get into hot water for putting 15 rounds into little Timmy looking to steal your stereo.

However if the guy so much as has a screwdriver in his hand its O.K. because you can easily claim that you were afraid for your life since the guy was in fact armed, it doesn't have to be a gun.

And your also wrong that a single shot is going to save you in court. Every single cop, that I talked to about this, has told me that in court it looks bad if you disable the perp with a shot in the anckle or hand or just shooting them in the head. It makes you look like a cold calculating killer, not an innocent frightened joe who was afraid for his life.

That's the reality of it. It's plain and simple.

However your right, if he has buddies nearby and you empty your clip you can end up getting killed.

But that's what ejectable clips were invented for. Carry a few with you just in case he has friends.

Just don't chase them down cause again it makes you look like a cold calculating killer and not a frightened joe.

Edit: Personally I would shoot the person in the head and empty the clip into their chest and quickly reload, just in case. If there is several of them at once it gets more interesting. So long as they are armed you can pretty much blow them all away and get off scott free.
 
If he only has a screwdriver and you some how unload on him you are going to be having a hard time for a while. You may have been in fear for your life, but in many states that will be ruled excessive.

You'd almost have to prove you were cornered and had nowhere to run.

Search throughout a gun forum for problems other's have had defending themselves legally.

It may work in your hometown, but in average american the right to bear arms is not so cut and dry.
 
Hmm it almost sounds like England.

In the UK, for example, if someone breaks into your house and starts beating on you with a metal pipe and you grab a tire iron or something a little bit more hefty like a sledge hammer and beat the crap out of them then you will get charged for excessive use of force cause your weapon was a lot more dangerous than theirs. Do they get charged? Usually no.

Its pathetic.

Thankfully here in Canada the opposite is true regarding that.


However unlike the US handguns, and guns in general, are so highly regulated that they are completely useless for home defense. They have to be locked behind a key lock, it has to have a trigger lock, and ammo cannot be even stored in the same box (or whatever) and it also must be locked away. By the time you unlock your box, unlock the trigger lock, grab another box with ammo in it that is also locked and unlock that and put 2 and 2 togeather your long since expired and the coroner is doing the autopsy.

Another thing that is kind of odd is that if you keep anything near your bed as a weapon (and they can somehow prove it) or that could be used as a weapon then you are automatically guilty of 1st degree murder cause you planed it out in advance.

Trust me if someone broke in here they would be leaving feet first regardless if they came in armed or not, and regardless of age or sex. No witness'.

There have been more than a few chilling examples of kids doing home invasions and killing or very seriously injuring those they find.
 
I have to confess that I think shooting someone 10 times with a 9mm is a little excessive.

10 shots with a 9mm? That's not self-defense; that's an execution!:Q
 
Actually only professionals use one shot one kill ratios.

When some nutcase smashes through your glass window the average joe is unlikely to aim for the head and shoot the guy between the eyes. Although it does happen from time to time.

The court sees this sort of action as a planned killing and they start to feel sorry for the criminal and that's where it goes down hill for you. Not good.

Also execution style killings are generally single shots to the head. So if you do kill someone with one shot it might be mistakenly interpreted as an execution, especially if it turns out that they had no weapon, which might happen in the middle of the night with no lights on.

As I said... empty the clip.
 
Originally posted by: Nitemare
Originally posted by: Pliablemoose
Originally posted by: Nitemare

FYI, I can't even get a Concealed Carry here because the Sheriff has to sign off on all permits and he will not even after you have jumped through 3 months of hoops, simply because he does not want citizens carrying handguns.

I don't like the fact that the judicial branch has usurped my right to bear arms and my right to defend my life and personal property
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You need to appeal his decision: http://www.jus.state.nc.us/NCJA/ncfirearmslaws.pdf

Your sheriff had 30 days to deny, had 7 days after the denial to notice you of his decision.

& get these folks to help you: Grass Roots North Carolina
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Thanks, guy!!!
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Always happy to put guns in the hands of responsible folks😉 (it makes it that much harder to take mine🙂 )
 
Originally posted by: Mark R
I have to confess that I think shooting someone 10 times with a 9mm is a little excessive.

10 shots with a 9mm? That's not self-defense; that's an execution!:Q
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Well, come on, if "Fiddy" got shot 8 or 9 times with a 9mm, hitting him 10 times is just being thorough. Maybe if it was a 45 or 10mm I'd agree with you. Or, for that matter, a hot loaded 9x23mm.
 
Originally posted by: ScoobMaster
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"A pizza deliveryman won't face charges for fatally shooting a would-be robber several times when he was approached in a high-crime area, but his employer, Pizza Hut, has fired him for violating a company policy against carrying firearms."

WTH??!!! The corporate suits expect you to not defend yourself and possibly get shot/killed??!!
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About the hot topic of hot cofee... any employee can now sue Pizza Hut if they are hurt during work, if carrying a gun would have saved them? I expect some 2 millions of punitive bla bla bla to be awarded 😉

Calin
 
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