Pizza = healthy?

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jadinolf

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Originally posted by: kogase
Originally posted by: Jnetty99
Do you think regular mom and pop pizza (not pizza hut or dominos or papa johns) is more healthy than, McDonalds, Burger King, Taco Bell... etc.

More healthy? Yes, but not by far. They do use real cheese, but it is still white bread and cheese.

.and fat and salt........
 

kogase

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Originally posted by: jadinolf
Originally posted by: kogase
Originally posted by: Jnetty99
Do you think regular mom and pop pizza (not pizza hut or dominos or papa johns) is more healthy than, McDonalds, Burger King, Taco Bell... etc.

More healthy? Yes, but not by far. They do use real cheese, but it is still white bread and cheese.

.and fat and salt........

Most of the fat and salt is in the cheese (only a bit of each in the dough).
 

HonkeyDonk

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Pizza is healthy if there isn't much cheese or fatty meats. Those are the two biggest factors that make the pizza a fattening food.
 

yhelothar

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It is unhealthy.. just look at the italians.. fattest people on the planet..
Yes *gasp* even fatter than americans.
 

TallBill

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Originally posted by: dighn
pizzas are usually greasy as hell. you must be outta your mind.

And fats and sugars are on top of the food pyramid so they are the most important.
 

Gooberlx2

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Originally posted by: edmundoab
i know the real Italian Pizza is alright

but the Americanized Pizza .. hmm..

Pizza (as we know it) was invented in NYC....I remember watching something on A&E or Food network about it.

Original pizza used big hunks of sliced cheese....not shredded.
 

Legend

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Not most pizza.

In most American pizzas:

The crust is made out of white flour. High GI = body fat and quick hunger. But the hunger doesn't happen with pizza because the other stuff on the pizza takes so long to digest.

Loaded with salt.

Some have transfats.

Loaded with artery clogging saturated fats.


The few health benefits:
Calcium, vitamin D, lycopene.
 

Fritzo

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There's really nothing wrong with pizza at all. In fact, if you used whole grain flour for the crust, it would be downright healthy. Things that make pizza bad are the meats- any type of sausage is going to add lots of fat.

 

rh71

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Originally posted by: edmundoab
i know the real Italian Pizza is alright

but the Americanized Pizza .. hmm..
what does that mean ? My wife went to Italy and said all the food there was (yuck). I couldn't believe it either. It's kinda like having Americanized Chinese food all your life (the MSG-filled stuff) and then having authentic - yuck.
 

BoberFett

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Way too greasy to be considered more healthy.

Home made pizza on the other hand can be quite healthy. Wheat crust with tons of fresh veggies, low fat cheese, and chicken is damn good and quite healthy.
 

kogase

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Originally posted by: virtualgames0
It is unhealthy.. just look at the italians.. fattest people on the planet..
Yes *gasp* even fatter than americans.

Pizza in Italy is an entirely different product. It is usually much more healthy than American-style pizza.
 

BSEagle1

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Absolutely. A homemade pizza (especially with toppings) is quite healthy.

McDonalds, Burger King etc., are the exact opposite of healthy. I'll lick a sidewalk before eating at any of those places.
 

Legend

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n00b question:

Where would you find whole grain flour at a grocery so you could make your own crust?

I love pizza. I'm wondering if there's a healthy and cost effective way to make it.
 

abc

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Originally posted by: Gooberlx2
Originally posted by: edmundoab
i know the real Italian Pizza is alright

but the Americanized Pizza .. hmm..

Pizza (as we know it) was invented in NYC....I remember watching something on A&E or Food network about it.

Original pizza used big hunks of sliced cheese....not shredded.


yes pizza arrived to America via NYC... fobby italians and GIs who fought the war brought the idea over.

now there are a few forms of 'nyc' pizza.

wood brick oven, charcoal brick oven...
the now trendy-but-i-think-fake brick oven-but gas flame!

then the run of the mill NYCPizza with metal ovens using gas...

and mexicans seem to have a better handle over learning pizza making than those coupla of muslim pizzerias...

they cut corners by lowering the oven temp, less cheese, overstretching dough... sigh.... all characteristics of being cheap... don't cheap your product, duh.
 

Pepsi90919

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Oct 9, 1999
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Originally posted by: So
Originally posted by: eakers
Originally posted by: Atomicus
Originally posted by: eakers
hold on hold on.... what is this about fake cheese on pizza? someone educate me

Take a look at a pizza from Little Ceasars and one from your local privately owned pizzeria.

ok, i make my own pizza, buy frozen and buy little ceasars and the cheese all seems the same to me? :confused:

Most (all?) big chains use artificial cheese on their pizza. Real cheese is MUCH more stringy.

huh? pizza hut states it uses 100% mozzerella.
 

abc

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Originally posted by: eakers
hold on hold on.... what is this about fake cheese on pizza? someone educate me

yeah u dont call it 'mozz' bec. it isn't. it's a cheese sub.

poeple may mix their tray of shredded mozz w/ some portion = cost savings
 

nageov3t

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Feb 18, 2004
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on a scale of 1-10, with a 1 being a fresh veggie salad with no dressing or any non-veggie product and a 10 being a Big Mac with extra meat, bacon, cheese, and mayo, I'd put pizza at an 8.
 

thirdlegstump

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It's a greaseball. Sure it's just cheese, bread and tomato sauce but there's nothing particularly good about it so it can't be labeled healthy. It's also been cooked to the point where the tomato is no longer retaining it's nutritional value. Bread and cheese is also not something you want much of in your diet as they are fattening and not very nutritional to begin with.
 

abc

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Originally posted by: Demon-Xanth
What makes Pizza NOT healthy?

the cholesterol and sodium in the cheese.

blotting the pools of oil would help on the fat, not the sodium though...

 

Fritzo

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Originally posted by: rh71
Originally posted by: edmundoab
i know the real Italian Pizza is alright

but the Americanized Pizza .. hmm..
what does that mean ? My wife went to Italy and said all the food there was (yuck). I couldn't believe it either. It's kinda like having Americanized Chinese food all your life (the MSG-filled stuff) and then having authentic - yuck.

Must have ate at the wrong place then :confused: You would not believe the pasta dishes we had there. Some of my fondest memories was eating in Venice.
 

Fritzo

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Originally posted by: deathkoba
It's a greaseball. Sure it's just cheese, bread and tomato sauce but there's nothing particularly good about it so it can't be labeled healthy. It's also been cooked to the point where the tomato is no longer retaining it's nutritional value. Bread and cheese is also not something you want much of in your diet as they are fattening and not very nutritional to begin with.

Actually mozzarella cheese is fairly low fat and a good source of calcium. The tomato sauce retains it's antioxidants and it's vitamin C content. The crust is the only bad thing with all the bleached flour. Adding pepperoni is what kills it.

Oh, check here for fat content in cheese:

Mozerella ranks near the bottom