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sze5003 said:
Front stereo speakers make a big difference to me at least. The ones on the Nexus 6 were nice and loud and the ones on the 6p are ok but not as good. Only time I wear headphones is at the gym and at work.

The HTC m7 had really nice front stereo speakers. It's not so much that they are stereo output but the placement in the front has better sound projection.
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I just wondered when you use them? Watching movies?
 
WelshBloke said:
I just wondered when you use them? Watching movies?
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Yea videos, news, YouTube, haystack. Sometimes I'm not near my TV and want to look something up. It's like one of those things once you start using it you just get used to that experience. Not mandatory but definitely nice.
 
WelshBloke said:
This is something that's never excited me. What's the usage where stereo speakers is better than headphones or Bluetooth? Are speakers on each end of a phone far enough apart to even give the listener stereo separation?
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I'm not so naive to think that I'm getting stereo separation. What I am getting is two speakers actually aimed at me while I'm watching something, and not aimed away from me or lateral to me. That makes a huge difference in how we perceive the sound.

Red Storm said:
How will they do minimal bezels and stereo speakers? If they can do both that would be really nice.
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Like the Nexus 6? This won't be the first phone to pull off narrow bezels and dual front speakers. It is still a rumor at this point, so I'm just going to wait and see.
 
sweenish said:
I'm not so naive to think that I'm getting stereo separation. What I am getting is two speakers actually aimed at me while I'm watching something, and not aimed away from me or lateral to me. That makes a huge difference in how we perceive the sound.
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I'd rather use headphones in that situation, it's more immersive and you do get much better sound!
 
WelshBloke said:
I'd rather use headphones in that situation, it's more immersive and you do get much better sound!
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It's also a hassle to have pull headphones out and put them away when you're done if all I want to do is watch a video while I eat my lunch in my office. Or show a video to my wife or to a friend. Or watch a video with someone, period.

I don't dump on your preferences or use cases, some reciprocation would be appreciated.

And besides, you only get "better" sound if you take the time to carry an amp/external DAC with you.
 
sweenish said:
It's also a hassle to have pull headphones out and put them away when you're done if all I want to do is watch a video while I eat my lunch in my office. Or show a video to my wife or to a friend. Or watch a video with someone, period.

I don't dump on your preferences or use cases, some reciprocation would be appreciated.

And besides, you only get "better" sound if you take the time to carry an amp/external DAC with you.
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While your first two points are valid, I'm really struggling with the 3rd. Are you trying to say that those piddly ass build in speakers on the phone are just as good as headphones, and the only way you would get better sound is with an amp? I'm either missing your point, or you need to buy headphones somewhere other than the gas station.
 
Stereo speakers are very nice to have. Not a must have, but there is a very noticeable difference in audio output compared to a phone that doesn't have them. Never mind quality, just having balanced audio (right and left vs just one) is what makes the difference. I don't always have my headphones on me, nor do I want to use them all the time.
 
Are you guys expecting phone speakers to sound like actual standalone speakers? All front stereo speakers do is enable better projection of sound from the phone for those who want to use them. There is a difference between having them on the front rather than the back, sides or under.

I don't think anyone is arguing they are better than headphones just that it's convenient to have front stereo speakers in certain situations.
 
gorcorps said:
While your first two points are valid, I'm really struggling with the 3rd. Are you trying to say that those piddly ass build in speakers on the phone are just as good as headphones, and the only way you would get better sound is with an amp? I'm either missing your point, or you need to buy headphones somewhere other than the gas station.
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I think you're trying too hard, then. I also think I didn't go after you personally when you were trying to present Touchwiz features that stock Android phones "couldn't" do.

But sure let's clear things up. I don't buy trash cans. Better, in terms of phone speakers versus headphones, is so minor that they literally don't matter. What does matter is how far your DAC and internal amp get you, and it's hardly enough to justify such a strong pushback for the fact that I'm legitimately excited that my phone will shoot sound AT me instead of away from me. Heaven help me for not wanting to pull out my cans or earbuds every single time I want to watch something or show something to someone. And **** me for wanting sound directed at my face instead of away from it.

I mean, if we're supposed to be all about Android because we love options, why in the literal **** do so many of you insist on dumping on people because their preferences differ from yours? Holy hell.

Just to restate an earlier post, hopefully these "dealbreakers" actually stop all the people moaning from buying the phone so I can have a better shot at buying some for my family.
 
sweenish said:
I think you're trying too hard, then. I also think I didn't go after you personally when you were trying to present Touchwiz features that stock Android phones "couldn't" do.

But sure let's clear things up. I don't buy trash cans. Better, in terms of phone speakers versus headphones, is so minor that they literally don't matter. What does matter is how far your DAC and internal amp get you, and it's hardly enough to justify such a strong pushback for the fact that I'm legitimately excited that my phone will shoot sound AT me instead of away from me. Heaven help me for not wanting to pull out my cans or earbuds every single time I want to watch something or show something to someone. And **** me for wanting sound directed at my face instead of away from it.

I mean, if we're supposed to be all about Android because we love options, why in the literal **** do so many of you insist on dumping on people because their preferences differ from yours? Holy hell.

Just to restate an earlier post, hopefully these "dealbreakers" actually stop all the people moaning from buying the phone so I can have a better shot at buying some for my family.
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How many are you planning on ordering, because I'm going to push my luck trying to order 2 XL's.

I believe it will go on sale 9am PT / 12pm EST.
 
sweenish said:
I think you're trying too hard, then. I also think I didn't go after you personally when you were trying to present Touchwiz features that stock Android phones "couldn't" do.

But sure let's clear things up. I don't buy trash cans. Better, in terms of phone speakers versus headphones, is so minor that they literally don't matter. What does matter is how far your DAC and internal amp get you, and it's hardly enough to justify such a strong pushback for the fact that I'm legitimately excited that my phone will shoot sound AT me instead of away from me. Heaven help me for not wanting to pull out my cans or earbuds every single time I want to watch something or show something to someone. And **** me for wanting sound directed at my face instead of away from it.

I mean, if we're supposed to be all about Android because we love options, why in the literal **** do so many of you insist on dumping on people because their preferences differ from yours? Holy hell.

Just to restate an earlier post, hopefully these "dealbreakers" actually stop all the people moaning from buying the phone so I can have a better shot at buying some for my family.
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I... I don't even know how to respond. We clearly are talking past each other given the reaction here. I had a post trying to explain what I meant but it's not worth it if it's just going to trigger even more of this type of stuff. Hope everything is alright man, and I hope you can get the phones you and your family want. :beercheers:
 
So far I am glad I got a Pixel for cheap within warranty. Totally enjoying the smooth experience. I will wait for Pixel 2XL to go on sale before biting.
 
Cakefish said:
http://www.androidauthority.com/google-pixel-2-xl-specs-803169/

OIS confirmed!!! Can’t wait to see the camera quality.
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Dude. This is the main reason I didn't buy a Pixel 1 (and price). The headphone jack thing pisses me off but a dongle isn't that big a deal so I'll probably grab one of these. Our S6s are barely hanging on now and there's not much other options. I'll see how this turns out and I guess it'll be between an XL and a V30 (assuming I can root it). A 3520mah battery with no oem software bloat also bodes very well for the battery (if you turn of always listening music anyway).
 
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Those side bezels look big, would have preferred to see a real (or close to it) edge to edge display, but it's no deal breaker.
 
I was hoping the front would look more like the renders. I feel like this model is what the pixel last year should have been.

At the bottom of the article you can see the front of the phone without the case. What weird bezels on the sides.

Kind of makes me upset as I'm not sure if I'll buy it now but I don't really have other options because my 6p is crapping out on me. Those are very big bezels for a 2017 flagship.

Not very impressed to be honest, out of all the other phones I think this one has the most bezel which is funny. But you can bet for sure it will perform in an excellent manner.


Also looks like Oct 19 rollout for pixel 2 and November 15th rollout for pixel 2 XL.

Hopefully we can still order on the 4th or else I'm screwed. I need a new phone now not a month or two later. Been missing many of my notifications, calls stop coming through on this 6p, battery is crap and my GPS constantly is screwed up when I need it the most.

https://venturebeat.com/2017/10/02/these-are-the-google-pixel-2-and-pixel-2-xl/
 
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I don't understand why they bother making such a big deal out of their launcher. I'm going to replace it with nova in 3 min anyway, right after I realize that you can't even swipe "around" the homescreens or have more than one dock! It's so limited, do many really use the stock/google launcher?
 
obidamnkenobi said:
I don't understand why they bother making such a big deal out of their launcher. I'm going to replace it with nova in 3 min anyway, right after I realize that you can't even swipe "around" the homescreens or have more than one dock! It's so limited, do many really use the stock/google launcher?
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I try to but a week later I end up going back to nova launcher pro. Also why the heck did they stick the Google search on the bottom? So if I mistakenly hit that search instead of hitting the app I want on the bottom there, a keyboard will come up every time.
 
Phone looks pretty meh aesthetically. Aside from the novelty that is the front speakers, I can't see anyone paying +$950 for this phone rather than the s8 (inafterstocklauncherdebate).
 
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