Pit Bulls Examined After Fatal Mauling..

[compuwiz1]

KillyKillall, you're amusing, I must say. When kids and Grandmas start getting killed by these things, it's hard not to judge.

 

[KillyKillall]

I try to keep a sense of humor about things. I'll post if my dog ever attacks me, but I'm pretty sure she's more likely to eat the chinchilla first.

 

[datalink7]

Originally posted by: compuwiz1
I guarantee you that once 2years has passed from this post, 1/2 of the pit bull owners here will have been bitten and a child will have been attacked. That is just out of the small sampling of owners here. The problem with the dog, is that everyone says they are so fun, so loving, so affectionate, etc. So were the ones who killed, then, without warning they snapped. The Fscking dogs are time bombs Nobody really knows if, when or how.
I understand they are cute, lovable and all that. The ones I have met are the same, but I do not trust them.

I'd question how much you actually know about these dogs. You insisted they have lockjaw, but they don't. I don't know that you really are informed enough to make the deduction that they are "time bombs."

 

[huesmann]

Originally posted by: axelfox
"Oh, s/he doesn't bite."

Yeah, right.

Any dog will bite if you annoy it enough.

 

[Mo0o]

Originally posted by: datalink7

Originally posted by: compuwiz1
I guarantee you that once 2years has passed from this post, 1/2 of the pit bull owners here will have been bitten and a child will have been attacked. That is just out of the small sampling of owners here. The problem with the dog, is that everyone says they are so fun, so loving, so affectionate, etc. So were the ones who killed, then, without warning they snapped. The Fscking dogs are time bombs Nobody really knows if, when or how.
I understand they are cute, lovable and all that. The ones I have met are the same, but I do not trust them.

I'd question how much you actually know about these dogs. You insisted they have lockjaw, but they don't. I don't know that you really are informed enough to make the deduction that they are "time bombs."

But either way you dont hear about golden retrievers or cocker spaniels going apeshit and mauling an infant.

 

[Ronstang]

Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
I will never own a pit bull.

Me neither, they are one of the most useless and unpredictable breeds of dogs...but the white trash seem to love them because they see them as "macho" and will continue to make excuses for them as the number of innocent people killed by them increases.

 

[Queasy]

Pit Bulls - Because Satan needs pets too.

 

[effee]

Pit bulls = No.

spaniels and retrievers definetly my kinda pets

 

[datalink7]

Originally posted by: Ronstang

Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
I will never own a pit bull.

Me neither, they are one of the most useless and unpredictable breeds of dogs...but the white trash seem to love them because they see them as "macho" and will continue to make excuses for them as the number of innocent people killed by them increases.

And this is what generally makes them bad dogs. People always hear about Pit Bulls attacking and then say stuff like you just did, that "white trash people own them to be macho." That's the problem, all the white trash people who don't know sh!t about dogs getting a dog and then not knowing how to train it to be a good dog.

German Shepherds have just as much natural agressiveness as a Pit Bull (I've worked with and owned both). But they don't have that "tough guy" dog image. They have a policeman, working dog, show dog image. So their owners are generally people who know what they are doing. If the German Shepherd became a popular dog among "white trash/macho" people, you'd be hearing about German Shepherds killing people.

 

[Mo0o]

Originally posted by: datalink7

Originally posted by: Ronstang

Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
I will never own a pit bull.

Me neither, they are one of the most useless and unpredictable breeds of dogs...but the white trash seem to love them because they see them as "macho" and will continue to make excuses for them as the number of innocent people killed by them increases.

And this is what generally makes them bad dogs. People always hear about Pit Bulls attacking and then say stuff like you just did, that "white trash people own them to be macho." That's the problem, all the white trash people who don't know sh!t about dogs getting a dog and then not knowing how to train it to be a good dog.

German Shepherds have just as much natural agressiveness as a Pit Bull (I've worked with and owned both). But they don't have that "tough guy" dog image. They have a policeman, working dog, show dog image. So their owners are generally people who know what they are doing. If the German Shepherd became a popular dog among "white trash/macho" people, you'd be hearing about German Shepherds killing people.

Lots of white trash own labradors and retrievers and u almost never hear about them mauling children.

 

[datalink7]

Originally posted by: Mo0o

Originally posted by: datalink7

Originally posted by: Ronstang

Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
I will never own a pit bull.

Me neither, they are one of the most useless and unpredictable breeds of dogs...but the white trash seem to love them because they see them as "macho" and will continue to make excuses for them as the number of innocent people killed by them increases.

And this is what generally makes them bad dogs. People always hear about Pit Bulls attacking and then say stuff like you just did, that "white trash people own them to be macho." That's the problem, all the white trash people who don't know sh!t about dogs getting a dog and then not knowing how to train it to be a good dog.

German Shepherds have just as much natural agressiveness as a Pit Bull (I've worked with and owned both). But they don't have that "tough guy" dog image. They have a policeman, working dog, show dog image. So their owners are generally people who know what they are doing. If the German Shepherd became a popular dog among "white trash/macho" people, you'd be hearing about German Shepherds killing people.

Lots of white trash own labradors and retrievers and u almost never hear about them mauling children.

You missed my point entirely.

Dogs have different amounts of natural aggressiveness. The Pitbull isn't any more aggressive than the other aggressive dogs out there (German Shepherd, Rottweiler, etc.), they just have more than their fair share of dumbfvck owners. The other aggressive breeds don't get a bad rap because they generally get good homes, and so don't become bad dogs.

 

[Mo0o]

Originally posted by: datalink7

Originally posted by: Mo0o

Originally posted by: datalink7

Originally posted by: Ronstang

Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
I will never own a pit bull.

Me neither, they are one of the most useless and unpredictable breeds of dogs...but the white trash seem to love them because they see them as "macho" and will continue to make excuses for them as the number of innocent people killed by them increases.

And this is what generally makes them bad dogs. People always hear about Pit Bulls attacking and then say stuff like you just did, that "white trash people own them to be macho." That's the problem, all the white trash people who don't know sh!t about dogs getting a dog and then not knowing how to train it to be a good dog.

German Shepherds have just as much natural agressiveness as a Pit Bull (I've worked with and owned both). But they don't have that "tough guy" dog image. They have a policeman, working dog, show dog image. So their owners are generally people who know what they are doing. If the German Shepherd became a popular dog among "white trash/macho" people, you'd be hearing about German Shepherds killing people.

Lots of white trash own labradors and retrievers and u almost never hear about them mauling children.

You missed my point entirely.

Dogs have different amounts of natural aggressiveness. The Pitbull isn't any more aggressive than the other aggressive dogs out there (German Shepherd, Rottweiler, etc.), they just have more than their fair share of dumbfvck owners. The other aggressive breeds don't get a bad rap because they generally get good homes, and so don't become bad dogs.

I think Rottweilers have a bad reputation as well. German Shepards kind of redeem themselves because they're used as police dogs and drug sniffers.

 

[exilera]

The kid was probably stabbing them with a stick.

 

[Electric Amish]

The worst dog I ever owned was a Chow/Golden Retriever mix. She was a wrecking machine and wouldn't obey. We ended up taking her to the pound.

The best dog I ever had scared the sh!t out of everyone that saw him. He was a 200lb Rottweiler/St. Bernard mix. He was a great animal. We had to put him down because he had cancer in one of his front knees.

We now have a Pittbull. She's never been any trouble.

I really don't think it's the breed, other than the fact that they can do more damage than other breeds. I believe that any animal can "snap" and go crazy. There's also no telling how an animal was treated when it was younger, unless you raised it yourself.

 

[Phoenix15]

Originally posted by: datalink7

Originally posted by: Ronstang

Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
I will never own a pit bull.

Me neither, they are one of the most useless and unpredictable breeds of dogs...but the white trash seem to love them because they see them as "macho" and will continue to make excuses for them as the number of innocent people killed by them increases.

And this is what generally makes them bad dogs. People always hear about Pit Bulls attacking and then say stuff like you just did, that "white trash people own them to be macho." That's the problem, all the white trash people who don't know sh!t about dogs getting a dog and then not knowing how to train it to be a good dog.

DING, DING!

Not to mention, labs, cocker spaniels and Irish Setters bite people every day too, but you don't hear about those. The news doesn't report on a guy needing a band aid because of a scrath on his hand. A pit bull can do a LOOOOTTTT more damage that any of those. A full grown pit could kill you in a matter of seconds.

I own a German Shepard and a Great Dane. They are both large dogs, and very energetic. Would I trust them round kids? Absolutely. Would I trust a pit? No way. Why take the chance?

 

[Ronstang]

Originally posted by: datalink7

Originally posted by: Ronstang

Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
I will never own a pit bull.

Me neither, they are one of the most useless and unpredictable breeds of dogs...but the white trash seem to love them because they see them as "macho" and will continue to make excuses for them as the number of innocent people killed by them increases.

And this is what generally makes them bad dogs. People always hear about Pit Bulls attacking and then say stuff like you just did, that "white trash people own them to be macho." That's the problem, all the white trash people who don't know sh!t about dogs getting a dog and then not knowing how to train it to be a good dog.

German Shepherds have just as much natural agressiveness as a Pit Bull (I've worked with and owned both). But they don't have that "tough guy" dog image. They have a policeman, working dog, show dog image. So their owners are generally people who know what they are doing. If the German Shepherd became a popular dog among "white trash/macho" people, you'd be hearing about German Shepherds killing people.

The Pit Bull is a useless dog...PERIOD. They were bred to fight and have been inbred to their demise. You can make any kind of rationalization you want but it won't change the facts. Dumbfvck white trash owners aside, the Pit Bull has a damaged brain and is one of the most unpredictable dogs there is no matter who owns them. It is one of the only dogs my brother (a vet) requires a muzzle on regardless of who owns it or it's history.

 

[datalink7]

Originally posted by: Mo0o

Originally posted by: datalink7

Originally posted by: Mo0o

Originally posted by: datalink7

Originally posted by: Ronstang

Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
I will never own a pit bull.

Me neither, they are one of the most useless and unpredictable breeds of dogs...but the white trash seem to love them because they see them as "macho" and will continue to make excuses for them as the number of innocent people killed by them increases.

And this is what generally makes them bad dogs. People always hear about Pit Bulls attacking and then say stuff like you just did, that "white trash people own them to be macho." That's the problem, all the white trash people who don't know sh!t about dogs getting a dog and then not knowing how to train it to be a good dog.

German Shepherds have just as much natural agressiveness as a Pit Bull (I've worked with and owned both). But they don't have that "tough guy" dog image. They have a policeman, working dog, show dog image. So their owners are generally people who know what they are doing. If the German Shepherd became a popular dog among "white trash/macho" people, you'd be hearing about German Shepherds killing people.

Lots of white trash own labradors and retrievers and u almost never hear about them mauling children.

You missed my point entirely.

Dogs have different amounts of natural aggressiveness. The Pitbull isn't any more aggressive than the other aggressive dogs out there (German Shepherd, Rottweiler, etc.), they just have more than their fair share of dumbfvck owners. The other aggressive breeds don't get a bad rap because they generally get good homes, and so don't become bad dogs.

I think Rottweilers have a bad reputation as well. German Shepards kind of redeem themselves because they're used as police dogs and drug sniffers.

If Pit Bulls had a good sense of smell like the German Shepherd, they would actually be a good option for a police dog. When you send a dog to attack someone, in police work, you want them to bit once and hold on. This is naturally what Pit Bulls like to do. They bit once and hold on as tight as they can (where the myth that they have "lockjaw" comes from). German Shepherds, on the other hand, like to bite, let go, bite again, let go, etc. So you have to train them to do what Pit Bulls do naturally.

But again this wasn't my point. My point was that Pit Bulls are getting the short end of the stick here because they are popularized by people who have no idea how to raise a dog properly. And then other people, who have never even met a Pit Bull but just hear stories about them, perpetuate the myth that they are ticking time bombs.

 

[Electric Amish]

The Pit Bull is a useless dog...PERIOD. They were bred to fight and have been inbred to their demise. You can make any kind of rationalization you want but it won't change the facts. Dumbfvck white trash owners aside, the Pit Bull has a damaged brain and is one of the most unpredictable dogs there is no matter who owns them. It is one of the only dogs my brother (a vet) requires a muzzle on regardless of who owns it or it's history.

Proof?

 

[datalink7]

Originally posted by: Ronstang

Originally posted by: datalink7

Originally posted by: Ronstang

Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
I will never own a pit bull.

Me neither, they are one of the most useless and unpredictable breeds of dogs...but the white trash seem to love them because they see them as "macho" and will continue to make excuses for them as the number of innocent people killed by them increases.

And this is what generally makes them bad dogs. People always hear about Pit Bulls attacking and then say stuff like you just did, that "white trash people own them to be macho." That's the problem, all the white trash people who don't know sh!t about dogs getting a dog and then not knowing how to train it to be a good dog.

German Shepherds have just as much natural agressiveness as a Pit Bull (I've worked with and owned both). But they don't have that "tough guy" dog image. They have a policeman, working dog, show dog image. So their owners are generally people who know what they are doing. If the German Shepherd became a popular dog among "white trash/macho" people, you'd be hearing about German Shepherds killing people.

The Pit Bull is a useless dog...PERIOD. They were bred to fight and have been inbred to their demise. You can make any kind of rationalization you want but it won't change the facts. Dumbfvck white trash owners aside, the Pit Bull has a damaged brain and is one of the most unpredictable dogs there is no matter who owns them. It is one of the only dogs my brother (a vet) requires a muzzle on regardless of who owns it or it's history.

I've worked with plenty of vets who don't require muzzles untill they've met the dog and make a case by case analysis.

And pretty much all pure breeds have been inbred far too much. But I'm not sure where you get your facts. Where did you read that they have a damaged brain?

 

[KillyKillall]

In the last 5 years..not 1 vet has either asked or required my pit bull to wear a muzzle. In fact, I've never even heard of that until right now. Proof of damaged brain??? Until then, you're full of shite because all dogs have been inbred, just like most human lines along some point way up the trail.

 

[hemiram]

Originally posted by: KillyKillall
Time for my 2 cents....

I own a pit bull/boxer mix. I have had her since she was 8 months (now 5 years). She is the sweetest dog in the world....does she play rough - yes...should children play with her - no, because she is aggressive. Most of the time we spend playing is either jogging, catch, or tug-o-war.

Not a person I know would say that she is a threat. However, they would say that she is very hyper when someone arrives at the house (she gets excited to see people), but doesn't jump on them or anything or play rough with them. She knows I'm the only she can do that with.

On the flipside...if I act scared towards someone or they punch me or something...all hell will break lose. Also, she has only growled at 3 people in her life...the weird thing is that they were all gay - I hope it was coincidence... <shrug>

Pics? Ok..here you go:

Here is my good side

I understand why she scares people, but no need to run

Because she just wants to be loved...is that so wrong?

She looks a lot like my old Pit mix, Gus. I don't have any scanned pics. We lost him to cancer in 1999. I got talked into taking him at the Vet's office. The vet had treated a load of pups for a skin infection, and they were getting really big and he was about to off them. He was a great dog.

He was 75 pounds and never started a fight in his entire 14.5 year life. He did finish a couple though. He was attacked several times over the years while I was taking him for a walk. One was a 125 pound German Shepherd that was in a truck. When we passed the truck, he jumped out the open window and attacked. Gus was always slow to anger, but he was soon kicking the other dog's ass, big time, and he gave up. When the owners came out, I guess he thought they were coming to be a reinforcement and he attacked him again. Gus mauled him pretty badly, and he had to go to the Vet ER on Sunday afternoon for about 40 stitches. Gus had two holes in his ear and one on the back of his neck.

I have been bitten twice by dogs , both times were German Shepherds and one time a St.Bernard went after me and if it wasn't for the really loose coat I had on, he would have chewed my arm up really badly.

My friend has an 85 pound Pit Bull that (they found out months after it started)sleeps the entire night with their now 6 year old daughter. They got the Pit Pup about 6 months before the daughter was born. All the relation said "That dog's going to kill that baby". The dog was incredibly nice to the baby and always wanted to lay with her on the floor. They had a dog bed in the family room and he always slept in it, as far as they knew. One night, my friend was not feeling too good, and he got up and went to the bathroom. He looked and the dog wasn't in his bed. He looked around the house and his wife wakes up and they go into the baby's room and there, in the crib, was the dog and baby all passed out. They just watched them for a while, and the dog opened his eyes, thumped his tail and went back to sleep. The next day they looked and found how he was able to jump into the crib so quietly. They ad some stuff stacked next to the crib, and the dog just "walked" up the stack and then hopped in. They tried to keep him out, but he whined and the aby wailed so much that they finally, over tales of gloom and doom from other people, let them sleep together again.

The kid's been in a regular bed and the dog and kid go to bed together every night. The one grandma came to visit from California, and had never seen the dog, and hadn't seen the kid for about a year or so. She comes in at night, and just has to see the baby, she startled both the dog and the kid, and the dog got very protective. Grandma retreated, totally freaked out, her idea of a dog is her nasty Min Pin. They introduced grandma to the dog the right way, and soon things were fine between them. Even she had to admit that the kid will never be kidnapped as long as the dog is around. When asked who her best friend is, the kid always answers "Jake" (The Pit)

Pit Bulls are the victim of a lot of hysteria, chicken little types mostly. Sure, a lot of them do like to fight other dogs, but even they ususally love people.

And that person who posted that it would be better if all dogs were killed? Well, let's just say I share that opinion, about the poster. We would all be better if he was gone, of natural causes, of course.

 

[hemiram]

Originally posted by: Ronstang

Originally posted by: datalink7

Originally posted by: Ronstang

Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
I will never own a pit bull.

Me neither, they are one of the most useless and unpredictable breeds of dogs...but the white trash seem to love them because they see them as "macho" and will continue to make excuses for them as the number of innocent people killed by them increases.

And this is what generally makes them bad dogs. People always hear about Pit Bulls attacking and then say stuff like you just did, that "white trash people own them to be macho." That's the problem, all the white trash people who don't know sh!t about dogs getting a dog and then not knowing how to train it to be a good dog.

German Shepherds have just as much natural agressiveness as a Pit Bull (I've worked with and owned both). But they don't have that "tough guy" dog image. They have a policeman, working dog, show dog image. So their owners are generally people who know what they are doing. If the German Shepherd became a popular dog among "white trash/macho" people, you'd be hearing about German Shepherds killing people.

The Pit Bull is a useless dog...PERIOD. They were bred to fight and have been inbred to their demise. You can make any kind of rationalization you want but it won't change the facts. Dumbfvck white trash owners aside, the Pit Bull has a damaged brain and is one of the most unpredictable dogs there is no matter who owns them. It is one of the only dogs my brother (a vet) requires a muzzle on regardless of who owns it or it's history.

Your brother is another chicken little I see. My old Vet, who died recently practiced fror over 60 years, and was bitten by one dog 10X more often than all the others put together, German Shepherds. Pit Bull bites were very few. They have a very high pain threshold, and it makes them easy to work with. My old Pit mix had numerous things done to him at the vet during his life, and he had the usual Pit reaction, mild boredom. My past dogs were not at all happy and had to be held down and muzzled until it was done. Without a doubt, the craziest dog I have ever seen is a cocker spaniel with "rage syndrome". While it can't do a lot of injury to a person, a pit can't do much more than any other dog his size. They aren't "Superdogs" for gosh sakes. They just fight a little better than almost any other dogs and are very strong for their size.

There's nothing useless about a Pit Bull, it can do about any job any other breed can do, and do it well. A guy around here hunts with his. He can't do it when it's really cold out, but the dog brings back birds as well as 90% of the labs he hunts with. He gets along with everyone. There's another one I have seen in Michigan that visits old people in nursing homes.

Breed banning is just plain stupid..