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Pirate Party wins a seat on the EU Parliament.

"The Pirate Party wants to fundamentally reform copyright law, get rid of the patent system, and ensure that citizens' rights to privacy are respected."
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There goes any incentive to create anything. It won't stay yours for long.
 
Originally posted by: Bignate603
"The Pirate Party wants to fundamentally reform copyright law, get rid of the patent system, and ensure that citizens' rights to privacy are respected."
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There goes any incentive to create anything. It won't stay yours for long.
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Slippery slope.
 
Originally posted by: MotF Bane
Originally posted by: Bignate603
"The Pirate Party wants to fundamentally reform copyright law, get rid of the patent system, and ensure that citizens' rights to privacy are respected."
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There goes any incentive to create anything. It won't stay yours for long.
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Slippery slope.
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What do you mean "slippery slope?" Eliminating patents would be the bottom of the slope.
 
Actually, despite it's name, this party does have some serious ideas to offer, and I'd agree with them. The media portrays it as "a party for file sharing", but protecting fair use, privacy etc are becoming more and more critical in this day and age of digital everything.
 
Originally posted by: PokerGuy
Actually, despite it's name, this party does have some serious ideas to offer, and I'd agree with them. The media portrays it as "a party for file sharing", but protecting fair use, privacy etc are becoming more and more critical in this day and age of digital everything.
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Agreed.. the current system is a joke. Copyright was never intended to ensure that corporations and descendents get to benefit from a certain work of art long after the original author passes away. At some point, copyright needs to yield to integration of our culture..

The Pirate Party makes sense.. perhaps they are taking the extreme point of view, but the extreme point of view needs to be taken to counteract the opposite extremes. The RIAA and the like would control every aspect of media if they had their chance - and they've been successful at lobbying to get laws passed to put this in place. Good for the Pirate Party.

Also, the Pirate Party is the largest party by percentage of 18-30 year olds in Sweden.. Good.
 
My question is what does this really mean? I mean, a single member of any party can contribute ideas, but it takes many more to agree to get something passed and compromised on.
 
Originally posted by: Ns1
Originally posted by: BoberFett
Originally posted by: Ns1
typical youth entitlement mentality FTL we want it and we want it for free, now.
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great debate skills there!
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That's because your comment was so stupid and ignorant it wasn't worth a debate. It was so ignorant that the only thing an intelligent person could do was roll his eyes.

I'm just say'in.
 
Originally posted by: Ns1
typical youth entitlement mentality FTL

we want it and we want it for free, now.
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What? How is this a case of youth entitlement? The people of the Pirate Party are talking about reforming copyright laws and making already free material free to all. Frankly, I agree with them.
 
Originally posted by: Xanis
Originally posted by: Ns1
typical youth entitlement mentality FTL

we want it and we want it for free, now.
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What? How is this a case of youth entitlement? The people of the Pirate Party are talking about reforming copyright laws and making already free material free to all. Frankly, I agree with them.
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Because they want something (music, movies, software), for free, now


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it is POSSIBLE that this does not apply to the party itself, but it most certainly applies to MOST of its supporters.

Anyway, I don't have time for another copyright debate, so you guys have fun now.
 
Originally posted by: Ns1
Because they want something (music, movies, software), for free, now
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Bingo! This is why people voted for them.




Capitalism has always had its pricing set largely by supply and demand. Everyone knows this. With the internet, supply is virtually infinite on all music, movies, porn, software, whatever. Traditional market forces do not apply. The work does cost money to create, and taking away the protections against infinite supply is not beneficial to anyone except the spoiled kiddies.
 
Originally posted by: Xanis
Originally posted by: Ns1
typical youth entitlement mentality FTL

we want it and we want it for free, now.
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What? How is this a case of youth entitlement? The people of the Pirate Party are talking about reforming copyright laws and making already free material free to all. Frankly, I agree with them.
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yea basically the regular parties are retarded when it comes to drm and patents and alll that stuff. the pirate party is a bit out there but they are needed to bring back some balance.

of course this won't happen, the eu is a ridiculous and undemocratic institution. the parliament is for show and basically powerless, all the stuff gets done in the eu commission, which is undemocratic. filling the eu parliament with novelty parties is a good protest vote regardless.
 
You guys don't understand why people vote for that party. It is not only about getting stuff for free, it is far more about protecting the rights of the citizens. I support them, despite the fact that I don't want to legalize sharing of copy right protected material, and the reason for this is that the new copyright directives in the EU is a joke.

Take the ipred directive for example. According to it, if a copy right infringement occurs, then the owner of the protected material can file a law suit against the
person owning the the ip-number used. But since the legal process does not take place in regular court, the part who lose have to pay the expenses of the process which is typically of the order 50,000 Euro of more. Thus, most ordinary people can not even go to trial. Instead they have to plead guilty and pay 4000 euro or so without trial. The defacto result of the law is people being convicted without trial.

In addition to that, we have all the new surveillance laws which are absolutely nuts. We didn't raze the wall to turn the whole Europe into DDR.
 
While copyright itself is a good thing, the concept of it has shifted since its inception. The idea was originally that the government would grant a time-limited monopoly to the owner of the copyright as incentive to create new works. After a time, ownership of the copyright would switch to the public domain, and society as a whole would benefit. However, in our current age of corporate greed, the concept of copyright is rapidly turning into something akin to "the owner of the copyright owns the rights to the work forever". The problem with this is that this does not enrich the public domain.
 
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