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Pioneer DVR-108 DVD burner issue

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JediNight

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I think this is the right forum for this. I'm having very slow burning speeds for the new DVR-108 I just bought. I had read issues people had saying to use an 80pin IDE cable and make sure its set to UDMA/4 mode, so I have both of those. I'm running Win2K SP4 and the burner is currently on the 2nd channel of my ATA133 PCI card -- the Maxtor ATA133 HDD that the card came with is on the 1st channel.

Everything I've read points to me having 7-12min burn times @ 12X .... but my first disk (Ritek 8X DVD5, plenty of feedback on these doing 12X np at all and Nero tested it as well) the disk failed around halfway through complaining about a Queue problem -- that was at 54% (15mins into the burn). I then successfully burned the same data at 8X which took 33mins!

Anyone have ideas on what might be causing my slow performance? I would put the burner on the primary IDE channel (I dont use them at all), but Win2K tells me the drive is set to PIO mode then even when the BIOS is set to ATA66/100. There is some patch notes on the MS website that says there is a display error that it will always say PIO possibly, but I have no way of knowing how to tell if its PIO or UDMA/4, so I put it on the ATA133 bc on boot it tells me it is correct.
 
Some PCI cards have trouble controlling optical drives, so you should definitely try the drive on the motherboard IDE ports regardless of the PIO / DMA reading.

I assume you've checked the drive jumper settings are correct and no extra jumpers (such as a factory test jumper accidentally left in place).

Also try using search on "slow" there have been several similar threads recently with more suggestions.
 
Alright -- I had tried just searching for DVR-108 and didn't come up with anything relevant that I could find. I'll try searching for "slow" then.
 
I had a problem when I first purchased the drive and it took me a few bad burns to figure it out. I had overloaded my power supply and I was failing in mid burn with the same sort of errors. I unplugged my other DVD and the CDRW (this was actually while I was switching it around on other IDE chans) and figured out that when I left something else unplugged, it ran just fine.

Just something to think about. Might check your PS vs what you are utilizing.

My 12x DVD+r's burn no more than 6:30. 7-12 is pretty high. I've burned both Memorex and Verbatim at 12x with no problems what so ever. the Memorex is 4x and the Verb is 8x. I used a hacked firmware though.
 
Take the drive off that pci ide card & put it on the motherboard controller.

most pci ide controllers have problems with optical drives.

What motherboard are you using?
 
this is an issue of your addon controller not supporting some features of the ATAPI command set. basically ATAPI is your MMC SCSI interface with an P-ATA dongle so it is different from the P-ATA used in hard drives. This is an issue you will often see in cheap PCI addon controllers and P-ATA RAID controllers. just like the previos poster said you will need to move it to the motherboard or get a controller that is specifcally designed to accept ATAPI devices as well as normal P-ATA ones.
 
Thats exactly what was wrong, I tried that the other night before reading here again now. What was tripping me up is that when seeing the PIO mode message ... it appears I can't choose anything else because there is no pull-down menu ... after I moved it back onto the mobo IDE I found out that you can click the tiny bar (guess they are supposed to be up/down arrows) and it does toggle down to Use DMA if available. Rebooted and it said it was running in Ultra DMA Mode. 8-10 min burns at 8X like normal then, yay 🙂

So for anyone else who searches this thread later:
- You must use an 80pin IDE cable or the drive will run slow.
- Make sure your DVD burner is Master on an IDE channel and not sharing the channel with any HDD that you will be reading files off of for burning, or speeds will be slow and a high chance of coasters.
- Make sure your BIOS settings are correctly set for ATA66/100/whatever.
- Under the Properties of the IDE controller in the Device Manager, make sure the settings for where the DVD drive are located are set to Use DMA Mode.
 
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