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ping question

pontifex

pontifex

Lifer
does connection speed have anything to do with ping times?

right now, most of the servers i connect to for fps games give me about a 100-140 ping. i have a 1.5 mb dsl connection. i'm upgrading to a 3.0 mb dsl connection that should be ready by tuesday.

will that make my ping time better?

or will i always be stuck playing with those ping times on these servers?
 
Yes, ping times will be lower based on how good your connection and also the connection of the remote sites are.
 
This should be in the Networking Section of the Forum here. But I'll go ahead and try to see what I can do... Connection Speed does have something to do with your ping times and the route your ping's taking so it really is more of two or three things which will degrade/improve your ping connections. You should expect to see a decrease in the ping times. My 0.02
 
There's two parts to an internet connection - throughput (max download speed) and latency (the ms response you see when pinging).

Other than checking your router, network card and firewall software, there isn't much you can do to control your latency. It's really a function of your ISP and the recieving server you are talking to and how congested and efficient they are in routing your requests to and from.
 
Originally posted by: Jon855
This should be in the Networking Section of the Forum here. But I'll go ahead and try to see what I can do... Connection Speed does have something to do with your ping times and the route your ping's taking so it really is more of two or three things which will degrade/improve your ping connections. You should expect to see a decrease in the ping times. My 0.02
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well, i wasn't sure which forum this would go in
 
no bandwidth doesn?t because the ping packets are very small, is it 64k ohh i cant remember.

Ping times usually (when using the basic ping command) are relative to the size of network and therefore distance of client to client pings etc.

I think 12ms is usually the expectable range for nominal LAN?s
 
Originally posted by: RichUK
no bandwidth doesn?t because the ping packets are very small, is it 64k ohh i cant remember.

Ping times usually (when using the basic ping command) are relative to the size of network and therefore distance of client to client pings etc.

I think 12ms is usually the expectable range for nominal LAN?s
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what about games though? is it the same thing or will i see improvement?

why is it that everyone has a different answer?
 
Originally posted by: pontifex
Originally posted by: RichUK
no bandwidth doesn?t because the ping packets are very small, is it 64k ohh i cant remember.

Ping times usually (when using the basic ping command) are relative to the size of network and therefore distance of client to client pings etc.

I think 12ms is usually the expectable range for nominal LAN?s
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what about games though? is it the same thing or will i see improvement?

why is it that everyone has a different answer?
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We'll be needing JackMDS to post here... Our answers may be different but they all says the same thing... You will be seeing improvement, but it all depends on the remote server that you are pinging as well.. For the most part you should see a decrease of maybe on an average of 35-40 pings for that upgrade would be my safest guess. It could be less or more of a decrease as a ping goes through only so many systems before reaching the remote target.
 
My problem is that I ping amazing on servers here at school but when I get in game the gameplay sucks. Its laggy and it just sucks. In Steam I'll view the server, and it'll say I have 30 some odd ping, and then when I get in game, it goes to 180 (highest I've seen it).
 
Originally posted by: pontifex
what about games though? is it the same thing or will i see improvement?
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The only time I notice any difference between pings on a connecton is from 56K to any high speed connection. Between high speed connections, the difference is pretty small. A 140 ping in a FPS is a little on the high side, but should be fine for the most part.
 
Originally posted by: pontifex
Originally posted by: RichUK
no bandwidth doesn?t because the ping packets are very small, is it 64k ohh i cant remember.

Ping times usually (when using the basic ping command) are relative to the size of network and therefore distance of client to client pings etc.

I think 12ms is usually the expectable range for nominal LAN?s
Click to expand...

what about games though? is it the same thing or will i see improvement?

why is it that everyone has a different answer?
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I expect you will see little to no change.
My upgrade from 1MBit to 2MBit didn't change anything.

Ping is basically how long it takes for data to travel from your PC to the server and/or back.
Changing line speed will not allow you to send the data any FASTER, it will only allow you to send more data.
Most online games will work with a 256/256 connection I expect (definately 256k up), so 1.5mbit will be plenty for all the information that needs to be sent between your PC and the server. Having 3mbits would just allow more data to be able to be sent. Each piece of data still has to take the same route though.
 
so what is a decent ping response for fps games? people in the servers i play on are tleling me that my 120-140 is too high. i wouldnt doubt it because of some of the crazy things that happen to me in the games.

i wish a new, good mmorpg would come out so i could play that instead of wasting my time in fps games when i'm not so great at it and when the cheaters decide to log in.
 
dsl is the problem

i think ADSL is pretty poor tech. least thats how i see it in this country.....they stick a filter on your puny copper telephone wire and send you broadband down it.

it never runs at the rated speed
mine runs half the speed were paying for
even at 1mb the pings to servers literally down the road suck to high heaven
gaming is a no no its impossible
only picks up in speed very late at night

tiscali = ******

at my real home.....
NTL (formerly comcast in the UK i think) on the other hand, run you a nice thick coax cable in to your home, and into a modem, this cable is connected to NTL's fibre opitc cable at some point down the line, and its awesome, runs 2mb day in day out, great pings even to US servers, has never so far as i know gone down or cut out, and now theyre upgrading us to 10mb!
 
Originally posted by: Lonyo
Originally posted by: pontifex
Originally posted by: RichUK
no bandwidth doesn?t because the ping packets are very small, is it 64k ohh i cant remember.

Ping times usually (when using the basic ping command) are relative to the size of network and therefore distance of client to client pings etc.

I think 12ms is usually the expectable range for nominal LAN?s
Click to expand...

what about games though? is it the same thing or will i see improvement?

why is it that everyone has a different answer?
Click to expand...

I expect you will see little to no change.
My upgrade from 1MBit to 2MBit didn't change anything.

Ping is basically how long it takes for data to travel from your PC to the server and/or back.
Changing line speed will not allow you to send the data any FASTER, it will only allow you to send more data.
Most online games will work with a 256/256 connection I expect (definately 256k up), so 1.5mbit will be plenty for all the information that needs to be sent between your PC and the server. Having 3mbits would just allow more data to be able to be sent. Each piece of data still has to take the same route though.
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so basically there's nothing i can do to improve my ping times excpet move closer to the server?
 
Originally posted by: pontifex
Originally posted by: RichUK
no bandwidth doesn?t because the ping packets are very small, is it 64k ohh i cant remember.

Ping times usually (when using the basic ping command) are relative to the size of network and therefore distance of client to client pings etc.

I think 12ms is usually the expectable range for nominal LAN?s
Click to expand...

what about games though? is it the same thing or will i see improvement?

why is it that everyone has a different answer?
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with regards to games, the ping times denotes the time it takes for the game server to talk to your PC (Client), its just really a measure of distance. aka you could be connecting to game servers that are on the other side of the world, and your ping time will be high.

As far as i know the game server just sends (for example FPS games) coordinates of each of the variables (none computer/AI controlled units) basically other players/vehicles etc to your pc so that it can be displayed on you screen, and thus allow you to interact in real time. If you have a high ping time then you run the risk of becoming out of sync with everyone else, and therefore become the bottle neck in the game. The best scenario is that everybody has the same ping latency and a low?ish 100 tops (of course this never happens), this will reduce game lag and intermittent game freezes. Of course there will be an amount of throughput (minimum bandwidth) needed to send the instructions and a 56k connection will not cut it.

High bandwidth is good for browsing the net, and reduces the load times when viewing high details (large flash files/Rich text) web pages etc, and of course you can download larger amounts of data faster.


 
Originally posted by: otispunkmeyer
dsl is the problem

i think ADSL is pretty poor tech. least thats how i see it in this country.....they stick a filter on your puny copper telephone wire and send you broadband down it.

it never runs at the rated speed
mine runs half the speed were paying for
even at 1mb the pings to servers literally down the road suck to high heaven
gaming is a no no its impossible
only picks up in speed very late at night

tiscali = ******

at my real home.....
NTL (formerly comcast in the UK i think) on the other hand, run you a nice thick coax cable in to your home, and into a modem, this cable is connected to NTL's fibre opitc cable at some point down the line, and its awesome, runs 2mb day in day out, great pings even to US servers, has never so far as i know gone down or cut out, and now theyre upgrading us to 10mb!
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🙁 Here too in ND, USA they just have :they stick a filter on your puny copper telephone wire and send you broadband down it.🙁
 
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