Pimps android pattern lock boggles the FBI's mind

[shabby]

http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/...ids-pattern-lock-serves-warrant-on-google.ars

the FBI asks for a warrant to be served on Google. It wants to know:

The subscriber's name, address, Social Security number, account login and password
All e-mail and personal contact list information on file for cellular telephone
The times and duration of every webpage visited
All text messages sent and received from the phone, including photo and video messages
Any e-mail addresses or instant messenger accounts used on the phone
Verbal and/or written instructions for overriding the ‘pattern lock’ installed on the phone
All search terms, Internet history, and GPS data that Google has stored for the phone

Who does the fbi think they are? Everyone should add a pattern unlock to their phone just to spite them.

 

[Bateluer]

At first I thought that such a warrant would be better served to the carrier more than Google, but the article says the phone went into lock down after the mis-entered the pattern, so the Gmail creds would be needed.

 

[gsaldivar]

Welcome to the age of Cloud Computing.

 

[sygyzy]

It's not the pattern lock that's special. It's any lock. I am pretty sure if you entered your numeric pin code wrong 5 times, you'd get locked out too.

 

[shortylickens]

It's not the pattern lock that's special. It's any lock. I am pretty sure if you entered your numeric pin code wrong 5 times, you'd get locked out too.

Ars Technica (like most tech sites these days) fluffs up the title to get more hits.

 

[lothar]

It's not the pattern lock that's special. It's any lock. I am pretty sure if you entered your numeric pin code wrong 5 times, you'd get locked out too.

If you get locked out on your phone after doing a pattern lock 5 times, what happens next?
Never done it before, just asking.

 

[Cares]

If you get locked out on your phone after doing a pattern lock 5 times, what happens next?
Never done it before, just asking.

Phone wipes all data and self destructs.

 

[lothar]

Phone wipes all data and self destructs.

 

[sygyzy]

I know it sounds like he's joking but I am pretty sure that is what happens.

 

[Glitchny]

If you get locked out on your phone after doing a pattern lock 5 times, what happens next?
Never done it before, just asking.

it locks you out and forces you to enter the credentials of the account synced on the phone. So you'd be prompted to enter you google login and password.

at least that's what i think happens.

 

[shabby]

If you get locked out on your phone after doing a pattern lock 5 times, what happens next?
Never done it before, just asking.

It tells you to try again in 30 seconds, it does this again until you reach 20 unsuccessful unlocks, then asks you to unlock using your primary google account.

 

[bearxor]

Can't you set it to whatever you want it to do when its synched via exchange? I'm pretty sure you can say that if the pattern is wrong x amount of times, wipe the device.

What this pimp needs is a real IT homeboy that could watch his back and, if he's arrested, execute plan 9 and wipe the device remotely before the feds realize what's happening... maybe there's a market for that... IT Pimp.

 

[preslove]

http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/...ids-pattern-lock-serves-warrant-on-google.ars



Who does the fbi think they are? Everyone should add a pattern unlock to their phone just to spite them.

Do you have a problem with the fbi building a case against a pimp? I'm not necessarily against prostitution if it actually involves consenting prostitutes, but pimps are pretty damn evil. They turn stupid/poor/at risk women into livestock. As long as law enforcement actually obtains a warrant, I see nothing wrong with tapping their phones. And, it's not like it's that hard to get enough probable cause on a pimp to get the warrant.

One of the 'at risk' type women that this Piece of s turned into livestock was an underage girl. A federal judge signed off on the warrant. I want as much evidence gathered, so he can get a hefty prison sentence. What, exactly, is your problem with the current situation?

 

[shabby]

Do you have a problem with the fbi building a case against a pimp?

My issue is that the fbi wants a how-to for breaking the pattern unlock. If google provides this how-to you can be sure there's going to be a huge uproar from the android community.
Whats next... asking truecrypt for a one-click un-encrypt program?

 

[Zaap]

I don't mind the FBI having a how-to for pattern unlock. As long as proper warrants are obtained against legitimate suspects for whatever it is they need to search, so what? Is the average Joe/Jane Blow worried the FBI wants to confiscate his/her phone just for kicks?

I think some people (mostly below age 18) automatically think you have to thwart law enforcement just for the heck of it. If the guy they were after had your daughter locked in a basement somewhere and the evidence to bring him down was in the guy's phone, you damned well would be all in favor of law enforcement breaking into it. Unless you're a moron that is.

 

[Brian Stirling]

The pimp here as in most cases is a dirt bag and should spend serious time in prison for the underage girl if nothing else. OTH, the FBI and many other police and intelligence agencies expect total access to everything about you and warrant are, sadly, OFTEN violated. Modern devices make it easy to store and have access to almost everything about you and with social media it isn't much of a stretch to say that from that they can no more about you than you do.

I for one am not happy about the erosion of privacy that so many of us think not a whiff about...


Brian

 

[lothar]

My issue is that the fbi wants a how-to for breaking the pattern unlock. If google provides this how-to you can be sure there's going to be a huge uproar from the android community.
Whats next... asking truecrypt for a one-click un-encrypt program?

Give an inch and they'll take a mile.

 

[elitejp]

Seriously for all I care they can take a mile. Im not out peddlin drugs or pimpin girls. Its like my dad says, who's a gun fanatic, "i encourage as many laws on guns as are needed or wanted. Im not out there doing illegal activity so even with more laws i can still buy more guns for myself". Let the govt do as much background digging on me as they want, its not going to hurt me one bit. I guess when your a law abiding citizen things like the FBI getting a warrant on you just doesnt really scare you.

 

[elitejp]

The pimp here as in most cases is a dirt bag and should spend serious time in prison for the underage girl if nothing else. OTH, the FBI and many other police and intelligence agencies expect total access to everything about you and warrant are, sadly, OFTEN violated. Modern devices make it easy to store and have access to almost everything about you and with social media it isn't much of a stretch to say that from that they can no more about you than you do.

I for one am not happy about the erosion of privacy that so many of us think not a whiff about...


Brian

Its all a trail. Before computers really hit the scene law officials would look for paper trails, ledgers kept of wrongful business deals, letters sent with incriminating evidence. Now its just easier since people are texting and posting it up on facebook while carrying around their gps phone thats tracking your every location. However then just like now they need a warrant along with a judges permission. Nothings really changed.

 

[heymrdj]

At the risk of diverging to P&N, those saying if someone you loved was in a situation you'd be all for it. That's the exact reason why those with special interest shouldn't be involved in situations. Those that have lost children to predators shouldn't be on jury in those cases. Those that have had family members murdered shouldn't be able to be part of a law making process against murders. Same goes for guns. Special interest and emotion cloud judgement in a way that's only good for the individual, not the greater good. Alot of times you do have to sacrifice the one for the many. It is a cruel world out there.

What if I want my password to work. What if I don't want the FBI to sit in a back room wanking it to naked pics of my wife? What if I don't want all of my friends harassed. What if I don't want the FBI contacting every single person I have ever known to spread slander about me that may not even be true?

 

[3chordcharlie]

At the risk of diverging to P&N, those saying if someone you loved was in a situation you'd be all for it. That's the exact reason why those with special interest shouldn't be involved in situations. Those that have lost children to predators shouldn't be on jury in those cases. Those that have had family members murdered shouldn't be able to be part of a law making process against murders. Same goes for guns. Special interest and emotion cloud judgement in a way that's only good for the individual, not the greater good.

Well said.

 

[heymrdj]

Wrong thread